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Tennessee Lottery computerized drawings under suspicion again

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Lottery draws same numbers 3 days in a row; same thing happened last month

When will the Tenn. Lottery dump the computer draws?

Seven was a lucky number for Tennessee lottery players last week. A very, very, very lucky number.

For three consecutive days, the winning ticket in the Cash 3 drawing was some combination of two sevens and a zero. Thursday, the winning Cash 3 number at midday was 0-7-7. Friday, the winning midday number was 7-0-7. And Saturday evening, the winning number was again 0-7-7.

It was the second time in two months that winning lotto number combinations repeated in consecutive games. In March, the Cash 4 drawings paid out for 1-3-7-2, 1-7-2-3, and 2-3-7-1 over the course of two days.

Lottery officials say the equipment has been checked, certified, audited and checked again. The repeating numbers, they say, are a statistical coincidence.

"We're always watching, monitoring and testing. We have found nothing wrong with how the equipment is operating," said lottery spokeswoman Kym Gerlock.

Last year, a software error in the lottery's computer equipment generated winning numbers for several weeks that never had repeated digits. That meant that people who chose numbers with duplicate digits, such as 5-4-5 or 9-9-9-8, had no chance of winning.

That glitch prompted the state to call in an outside computer review and launch its own audit of the Tennessee lottery computers. Gerlock said the equipment has been certified and passed a compliance audit by the outside auditing firm KPMG Canada. The audit also cleared the computers that Tennessee uses in lieu of traditional pingpong-ball lottery machines.

Bruce Cooil, associate professor of management at Vanderbilt's Owen School of Management, studies the probability of rare events.

"In the Cash 3 Lottery, the probability is less than 1 in 10,000 that one would see the same three numbers in various orders for three of the last four winning numbers," he said. He thinks the lottery should check its equipment.

But Rafe Donahue, adjunct associate professor of biostatistics at Vanderbilt, has watched the Tennessee lottery computers in action and said he was impressed by the precautions the system takes to ensure its random drawings are honestly random.

Two bills that would switch the lottery back to using ping-pong balls are pending in the legislature.

Thanks to four4me for the tip.

Tennessean

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JAP69's avatar - alas
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Posted: April 8, 2008, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

I want to see what the payout increase was from draw to draw for the 077 combos back to back.

They will probably end up paying out more per year in prize payout than when they had ball draws.

That pick 4 back to back cost them a bundle.

Somebody must have them figured by now.

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    Posted: April 8, 2008, 8:47 pm - IP Logged

    This has got to help push the legislation through, which is a good thing because this kind of stuff repeating has got to be killing consumer confidence

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      Posted: April 8, 2008, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

      "We have found nothing wrong with how the equipment is operating" ~ spoken like ... well nevermind. Wink

      Who programs these machines, anyway? Diebold? Clown

      In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
      Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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        To put this in some kind of perspective, the probability of selecting a back to back combination from any of these set of Pick 3 numbers, {077, 707}, three times is (2 out of 1000) ^ 3 or 8 out of 1,000,000,000; this reduces down to 1 out of 125,000,000. Here are a few other games with their probabilities: Powerball - 1 out of 146,107,962 / Mega Millions - 1 out of 175,711,536 / my state’s Megabucks Pick 6 of 49 - 1 out of 13,983,816. That is the probability of winning those lotteries on the first try using only one combination or play. There is actually a better probability of winning my state’s lottery the first time using only one play combination by a factor of 8.9 times.

        Also, keep in mind the original probability is 8 out of 1 BILLION... That’s BILLION with a ‘B’.

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          Posted: April 8, 2008, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

          I want to see what the payout increase was from draw to draw for the 077 combos back to back.

          They will probably end up paying out more per year in prize payout than when they had ball draws.

          That pick 4 back to back cost them a bundle.

          Somebody must have them figured by now.

          CASH 34/5/2008Evening077$50,460.00
          CASH 34/4/2008Mid-Day707$27,180.00
          CASH 34/4/2008Evening046$25,180.00
          CASH 34/3/2008Mid-Day077$18,400.00
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            "We have found nothing wrong with how the equipment is operating" ~ spoken like ... well nevermind. Wink

            Who programs these machines, anyway? Diebold? Clown

            Yeah,right!?  The fact that a "glitch" happened before only convinces me that me that a "glitch" could happen again.  I have been watching the Tenn numbers since the 3,6,9 repetition months ago. 

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              3,6,9,repetition scroll down

               

              CASH 3

               

               

              1/2/2008

               

               

              Evening

               

               

              593

               

               

              $22,790.00

              CASH 31/1/2008Mid-Day649$16,440.00
              CASH 31/1/2008Evening986$37,580.00
              CASH 312/31/2007Mid-Day253$28,990.00
              CASH 312/31/2007Evening990$36,550.00
              CASH 312/30/2007Evening527$84,940.00
              CASH 312/29/2007Mid-Day828$60,170.00
              CASH 312/29/2007Evening634$53,000.00
              CASH 312/28/2007Mid-Day067$11,710.00
              CASH 312/28/2007Evening286$61,490.00
              CASH 312/27/2007Mid-Day511$21,310.00
              CASH 312/27/2007Evening394$25,570.00
              CASH 312/26/2007Mid-Day650$10,510.00
              CASH 312/26/2007Evening694$54,060.00
              CASH 312/25/2007Mid-Day846$18,260.00
              CASH 312/25/2007Evening369$120,290.00
              CASH 312/24/2007Mid-Day212$81,810.00
              CASH 312/24/2007Evening389$29,980.00
              CASH 312/23/2007Evening690$17,010.00
              CASH 312/22/2007Mid-Day033$22,520.00
              CASH 312/22/2007Evening739$39,330.00
              CASH 312/21/2007Mid-Day266$24,650.00
              CASH 312/21/2007Evening384$50,880.00
              CASH 312/20/2007Mid-Day402$18,590.00
              CASH 312/20/2007Evening413$71,640.00
              CASH 312/19/2007Mid-Day440$41,980.00
              CASH 312/19/2007Evening629$78,800.00
              CASH 312/18/2007Mid-Day318$37,150.00
              CASH 312/18/2007Evening857$39,000.00
              CASH 312/17/2007Mid-Day953$23,440.00
              CASH 312/17/2007Evening923$71,730.00
              CASH 312/16/2007Evening063$23,320.00
              CASH 312/15/2007Mid-Day075$17,140.00
              CASH 312/15/2007Evening164$35,230.00
              CASH 312/14/2007Mid-Day898$23,390.00
              CASH 312/14/2007Evening029$51,310.00
              CASH 312/13/2007Mid-Day374$27,320.00
              CASH 312/13/2007Evening439$31,080.00
              CASH 312/12/2007Mid-Day520$27,700.00
              CASH 312/12/2007Evening656$45,940.00
              CASH 312/11/2007Mid-Day492$16,510.00
              CASH 312/11/2007Evening924$68,200.00
              CASH 312/10/2007Mid-Day298$20,920.00
              CASH 312/10/2007Evening058$20,710.00
              CASH 312/9/2007Evening620$27,990.00
              CASH 312/8/2007Mid-Day575$39,010.00
              CASH 312/8/2007Evening979$61,940.00
              CASH 312/7/2007Mid-Day681$24,950.00
              CASH 312/7/2007Evening732$68,140.00
              CASH 312/6/2007Mid-Day797$27,160.00
              CASH 312/6/2007Evening188$60,740.00
              CASH 312/5/2007Mid-Day167$31,860.00
              CASH 312/5/2007Evening944$34,410.00
              CASH 312/4/2007Mid-Day391$20,020.00
              CASH 312/4/2007Evening195$49,630.00
              CASH 312/3/2007Mid-Day093$13,600.00
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                3,6,9,repetition scroll down

                 

                CASH 3

                 

                 

                1/2/2008

                 

                 

                Evening

                 

                 

                593

                 

                 

                $22,790.00

                CASH 31/1/2008Mid-Day649$16,440.00
                CASH 31/1/2008Evening986$37,580.00
                CASH 312/31/2007Mid-Day253$28,990.00
                CASH 312/31/2007Evening990$36,550.00
                CASH 312/30/2007Evening527$84,940.00
                CASH 312/29/2007Mid-Day828$60,170.00
                CASH 312/29/2007Evening634$53,000.00
                CASH 312/28/2007Mid-Day067$11,710.00
                CASH 312/28/2007Evening286$61,490.00
                CASH 312/27/2007Mid-Day511$21,310.00
                CASH 312/27/2007Evening394$25,570.00
                CASH 312/26/2007Mid-Day650$10,510.00
                CASH 312/26/2007Evening694$54,060.00
                CASH 312/25/2007Mid-Day846$18,260.00
                CASH 312/25/2007Evening369$120,290.00
                CASH 312/24/2007Mid-Day212$81,810.00
                CASH 312/24/2007Evening389$29,980.00
                CASH 312/23/2007Evening690$17,010.00
                CASH 312/22/2007Mid-Day033$22,520.00
                CASH 312/22/2007Evening739$39,330.00
                CASH 312/21/2007Mid-Day266$24,650.00
                CASH 312/21/2007Evening384$50,880.00
                CASH 312/20/2007Mid-Day402$18,590.00
                CASH 312/20/2007Evening413$71,640.00
                CASH 312/19/2007Mid-Day440$41,980.00
                CASH 312/19/2007Evening629$78,800.00
                CASH 312/18/2007Mid-Day318$37,150.00
                CASH 312/18/2007Evening857$39,000.00
                CASH 312/17/2007Mid-Day953$23,440.00
                CASH 312/17/2007Evening923$71,730.00
                CASH 312/16/2007Evening063$23,320.00
                CASH 312/15/2007Mid-Day075$17,140.00
                CASH 312/15/2007Evening164$35,230.00
                CASH 312/14/2007Mid-Day898$23,390.00
                CASH 312/14/2007Evening029$51,310.00
                CASH 312/13/2007Mid-Day374$27,320.00
                CASH 312/13/2007Evening439$31,080.00
                CASH 312/12/2007Mid-Day520$27,700.00
                CASH 312/12/2007Evening656$45,940.00
                CASH 312/11/2007Mid-Day492$16,510.00
                CASH 312/11/2007Evening924$68,200.00
                CASH 312/10/2007Mid-Day298$20,920.00
                CASH 312/10/2007Evening058$20,710.00
                CASH 312/9/2007Evening620$27,990.00
                CASH 312/8/2007Mid-Day575$39,010.00
                CASH 312/8/2007Evening979$61,940.00
                CASH 312/7/2007Mid-Day681$24,950.00
                CASH 312/7/2007Evening732$68,140.00
                CASH 312/6/2007Mid-Day797$27,160.00
                CASH 312/6/2007Evening188$60,740.00
                CASH 312/5/2007Mid-Day167$31,860.00
                CASH 312/5/2007Evening944$34,410.00
                CASH 312/4/2007Mid-Day391$20,020.00
                CASH 312/4/2007Evening195$49,630.00
                CASH 312/3/2007Mid-Day093$13,600.00

                Just a simple glance at these I'd have to say the System is Hacked!!!

                Someone is cashing in BIG TIME on this one.

                This isn't a glitch, it's a HACK!!!

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                  it will feel really good to buy a tennessee lottery ticket again if they decide to go back to ball draws.

                   

                  p.s.....i got an idea.i think rebecca paul hardrode needs to resign and bring our ball drawings back.

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                    I totally agree!

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                      Doesn't matter how many times you've contacted your legislators ...... contact them again and again and again if you feel strongly enough about this.

                      It's a sure bet they're being lobbied to keep the RNG's.

                      Keep pressure on to revert back to ball drop draws you can see with your own eyes !!!!!!!!!!

                      Good luck to everyone!

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                        the same combo coming out 3 times in a row really isnt that big of a deal..look at this way

                        ..Have you ever seen the digit 1( or any single digit) repeat in 3 straight draws..Yes!!!

                         

                        Have you ever seen a pair like 12( or any other pair) repeat for 3 straight draws in a row...Yes!!!

                         

                        the same combo is the samething..its just part of the same group..it has happened many times before..it will happen many times to come..haha

                         

                        Did you notice the pay out increase on the 3rd 077...it went UP!!!!..hahaha

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                          It wasn't consecutive draws - there was a draw in-between.  Besides, you can't compare draws together, because each one is a separate event.  I've been trying to recognize a pattern, but there isn't one.  It's random... and you'll see stuff like that randomly. 

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                            Posted: April 9, 2008, 11:39 am - IP Logged

                            3,6,9,repetition scroll down

                             

                            CASH 3

                             

                             

                            1/2/2008

                             

                             

                            Evening

                             

                             

                            593

                             

                             

                            $22,790.00

                            CASH 31/1/2008Mid-Day649$16,440.00
                            CASH 31/1/2008Evening986$37,580.00
                            CASH 312/31/2007Mid-Day253$28,990.00
                            CASH 312/31/2007Evening990$36,550.00
                            CASH 312/30/2007Evening527$84,940.00
                            CASH 312/29/2007Mid-Day828$60,170.00
                            CASH 312/29/2007Evening634$53,000.00
                            CASH 312/28/2007Mid-Day067$11,710.00
                            CASH 312/28/2007Evening286$61,490.00
                            CASH 312/27/2007Mid-Day511$21,310.00
                            CASH 312/27/2007Evening394$25,570.00
                            CASH 312/26/2007Mid-Day650$10,510.00
                            CASH 312/26/2007Evening694$54,060.00
                            CASH 312/25/2007Mid-Day846$18,260.00
                            CASH 312/25/2007Evening369$120,290.00
                            CASH 312/24/2007Mid-Day212$81,810.00
                            CASH 312/24/2007Evening389$29,980.00
                            CASH 312/23/2007Evening690$17,010.00
                            CASH 312/22/2007Mid-Day033$22,520.00
                            CASH 312/22/2007Evening739$39,330.00
                            CASH 312/21/2007Mid-Day266$24,650.00
                            CASH 312/21/2007Evening384$50,880.00
                            CASH 312/20/2007Mid-Day402$18,590.00
                            CASH 312/20/2007Evening413$71,640.00
                            CASH 312/19/2007Mid-Day440$41,980.00
                            CASH 312/19/2007Evening629$78,800.00
                            CASH 312/18/2007Mid-Day318$37,150.00
                            CASH 312/18/2007Evening857$39,000.00
                            CASH 312/17/2007Mid-Day953$23,440.00
                            CASH 312/17/2007Evening923$71,730.00
                            CASH 312/16/2007Evening063$23,320.00
                            CASH 312/15/2007Mid-Day075$17,140.00
                            CASH 312/15/2007Evening164$35,230.00
                            CASH 312/14/2007Mid-Day898$23,390.00
                            CASH 312/14/2007Evening029$51,310.00
                            CASH 312/13/2007Mid-Day374$27,320.00
                            CASH 312/13/2007Evening439$31,080.00
                            CASH 312/12/2007Mid-Day520$27,700.00
                            CASH 312/12/2007Evening656$45,940.00
                            CASH 312/11/2007Mid-Day492$16,510.00
                            CASH 312/11/2007Evening924$68,200.00
                            CASH 312/10/2007Mid-Day298$20,920.00
                            CASH 312/10/2007Evening058$20,710.00
                            CASH 312/9/2007Evening620$27,990.00
                            CASH 312/8/2007Mid-Day575$39,010.00
                            CASH 312/8/2007Evening979$61,940.00
                            CASH 312/7/2007Mid-Day681$24,950.00
                            CASH 312/7/2007Evening732$68,140.00
                            CASH 312/6/2007Mid-Day797$27,160.00
                            CASH 312/6/2007Evening188$60,740.00
                            CASH 312/5/2007Mid-Day167$31,860.00
                            CASH 312/5/2007Evening944$34,410.00
                            CASH 312/4/2007Mid-Day391$20,020.00
                            CASH 312/4/2007Evening195$49,630.00
                            CASH 312/3/2007Mid-Day093$13,600.00

                            369 only showed up once in that entire list. Where are you going with that? Also, Mid-day and evening are 2 separate drawings.

                            Gonna win.Big Smile