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COMPUTERIZED DRAWING GLITCH STRIKES ARIZONA LOTTERY

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JAP69's avatar - alas
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Posted: August 21, 2013, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

"Legions of people like me? Like If I protest, they'll listen to me?"

I know one thing...

If legions of people like you go along with the program like a herd of sheep and never object to the corruption, it'll only serve to perpetuate the intransigence on the part of the political hacks running the lotteries.

If they think a large enough percentage of us are willing to put up with it and merely complain about peripheral concerns like pre-draws and such, they'll never change anything. We'll have fake computer draws forever. 

Look at Indiana going back to real ball drops for one of their games. They're responding to the demands of the players.

But if we don't demand, they don't respond.

Right now, Arizona is telling it's players to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Yeah, they got caught again but once again they say they fixed it and everybody should just keep moving, nothing more to see here cuz once again the lottery is back in operation with the "utmost integrity."

Yep, sure it is, just like last time.

Indiana was discussed around here at one time about their computer draws and the amount of lottery winners that came from the draws. Not many winners I understand.

Some debate on whether they were rigged.

MAGA

    JAP69's avatar - alas
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    Posted: August 21, 2013, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

    Cheers

    The #oldheads seem not to like computers much lol

    I do not like them for lottery draws or other areas where integrity is involved.

    MAGA


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      Posted: August 21, 2013, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

      You might have a genuine complaint and relevant to this discussion if after the pre-drawing test they removed the nine from the second digit position machine and removed eight and nine from the third digit position machine.

      Are you saying a pre-drawing test can prevent a digit in the second digit position and two digits in the third digit position from being drawn when the digits are still in the machine because of the pre-drawing test?

      Are you saying a pre-drawing test can prevent a digit in the second digit position and two digits in the third digit position from being drawn when the digits are still in the machine because of the pre-drawing test?

       

      No, what I'm saying is that the unexcusable and unethical things the officials do with the pre-tests, post-tests in ball drawings, many times on a daily basis all over the country, eclipses any computer drawing horrors such as in this case. People should be outraged over what the officials do with ball drawings, yet one glitch in a blue moon with computers and all hell breaks loose.

      Of course it's always a bad thing when things like this happen with two numbers not showing in different positions, but the overall atrocities being committed by officials with ball drawings should be outlawed. This is what people should really be angry about.


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        Posted: August 21, 2013, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

        "Legions of people like me? Like If I protest, they'll listen to me?"

        I know one thing...

        If legions of people like you go along with the program like a herd of sheep and never object to the corruption, it'll only serve to perpetuate the intransigence on the part of the political hacks running the lotteries.

        If they think a large enough percentage of us are willing to put up with it and merely complain about peripheral concerns like pre-draws and such, they'll never change anything. We'll have fake computer draws forever. 

        Look at Indiana going back to real ball drops for one of their games. They're responding to the demands of the players.

        But if we don't demand, they don't respond.

        Right now, Arizona is telling it's players to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Yeah, they got caught again but once again they say they fixed it and everybody should just keep moving, nothing more to see here cuz once again the lottery is back in operation with the "utmost integrity."

        Yep, sure it is, just like last time.

        Do you really believe that enough people complained about pre and post test, that they'd stop doing them?

        They'd rather shut the p-3 and p-4 down before conceding. They're very aware that if they do that, they'd lose a lot of money because people would win more, much more.

        Your example of Indiana is not the same thing. They're probably jumping for joy now that they can perform 5 pre-tests, 5 post tests, rotate the tubes, rotate the machines, throw the machines down a flight of stairs before and after the draw, have a Shaman come in and cast a spell before and after, throw it in boiling oil, and so on. lol

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          Posted: August 21, 2013, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

          "The Arizona Lottery assures our players that the issue has been remedied, and the Pick 3 drawings will continue to move forward with the utmost integrity."

          That's absolute nonsense.

          How can you assure anybody of anything when you don't even know when your fake computer drawing is malfunctioning?

          What the bloody hell is so wrong with real ball drawings?

          Is it just too hard to program wins for your buddies that way or what?

          Your silly excuse that it's too expensive is bullsh*t and you know it.

          You're a bunch of thieving crooks just like everybody else in government.

          Amen my brothren! A BUNCH OF CROOKS.... CAN'T TRUST THEM BEHIND A TREE!I Agree!

          Who say's I'm broke? Are you kidding me, I am just waiting on my millions!Dance

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            Posted: August 21, 2013, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

            Are you saying a pre-drawing test can prevent a digit in the second digit position and two digits in the third digit position from being drawn when the digits are still in the machine because of the pre-drawing test?

             

            No, what I'm saying is that the unexcusable and unethical things the officials do with the pre-tests, post-tests in ball drawings, many times on a daily basis all over the country, eclipses any computer drawing horrors such as in this case. People should be outraged over what the officials do with ball drawings, yet one glitch in a blue moon with computers and all hell breaks loose.

            Of course it's always a bad thing when things like this happen with two numbers not showing in different positions, but the overall atrocities being committed by officials with ball drawings should be outlawed. This is what people should really be angry about.

            What makes you think you can impose your value judgement on others:

            People should be outraged over what the officials do with ball drawings, yet one glitch in a blue moon with computers and all hell breaks loose.
            This is what people should really be angry about.

            I'll be angry about whatever the hell I want, thank you. Yawn

            I'd bet most people understand that balls need to be checked and weighed, the machine and ball action should be verified to look for tampering, before the draw, to ensure a fair result. This happens with pick 3,4,5,6, MM and PB. It's kinda industry standard. Or as you call it, unexcusable and unethical? Right.


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              What makes you think you can impose your value judgement on others:

              People should be outraged over what the officials do with ball drawings, yet one glitch in a blue moon with computers and all hell breaks loose.
              This is what people should really be angry about.

              I'll be angry about whatever the hell I want, thank you. Yawn

              I'd bet most people understand that balls need to be checked and weighed, the machine and ball action should be verified to look for tampering, before the draw, to ensure a fair result. This happens with pick 3,4,5,6, MM and PB. It's kinda industry standard. Or as you call it, unexcusable and unethical? Right.

              Obviously you don't get it and never will. Most people in denial have their ears closed with the palm of their hands and go na na na na na na na na, I can't hear you, i can't hear you, na na na na na na na.

              I refuse to repeat everything I wrote earlier. If you can justify starting your car five times a day to make sure your starter still works, I'm all ears. If not, simply go on and stick your head in the sand like you and many others have been doing for so long. You're the type of people the officials love. The kind that agrees with them on the BS about making sure the machines work properly before and after the game.

              What do you think they'll do if the machine breaks even after all the precautions? They'll still have to redo the draw right? So what did they gain? NOTHING! When a machine is ready to break, it's gonna break.

              Tampering? have a video record the machine in a well lit room. Problem solved. What's the next excuse?

              If anything, they aided in the breaking down of the machine sooner from all the wear and tear of pretest and post tests. DUH!!! So If you really wanna believe that BS, go ahead.

              Industry standard huh? Green laughYou really have a lot to learn.

              Planned Product Obsolecence is also an industry standard. I guess you're ok with that too? Ponder


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                Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:09 pm - IP Logged

                Wrong Lonely, pre draws are like warming up the car before you drive it down the street.

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                  Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

                  Wrong Lonely, pre draws are like warming up the car before you drive it down the street.

                  I Like to warm my car up before i go to anywhere gets my seater heater warmSmiley


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                    Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

                    How do you win more because of ball draw?

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                      Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

                      How do you win more because of ball draw?

                      i do not know just go alone with them or you will be yelled at for not agreeing your onions don't matterLOL


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                        Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

                        Wrong Lonely, pre draws are like warming up the car before you drive it down the street.

                        So you warm up the car 3 seperate times before you drive? And then warm up the car 3 seperate times or more after you come back home?

                        Troll alert!!!!

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                          Wrong Lonely, pre draws are like warming up the car before you drive it down the street.

                          Great analogy! Thumbs Up


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                            I Like to warm my car up before i go to anywhere gets my seater heater warmSmiley

                            I like D car wit D seat warmer built in.


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                              Posted: August 21, 2013, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

                              Great analogy! Thumbs Up

                              Thanks, too bad for Lonely the true hurts. LOL

                                 
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