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Is it game over for the Texas Lottery?

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Posted: August 4, 2014, 8:37 am - IP Logged

 PiaI totally agree with you about the politicians trying to regulate our personal decisions. 

Rob Kober  need to just find him a job. The churches takes more money from the poor more than any habit they have i.e 10% of their income, The IRS already tax my income. I AM GOING TO MAKE A PREDICTION THAT ONE OF THESE IDIOTS INVOLVE  IN THIS HAS PLANS TO BUILD A CASINO HERE IN TEXAS OR LEGALIZE ALL THESE MOM AND POP'S GAME ROOM RACKET THEY HAVE GOING ON.

Greg Abott is mostly likely to build a casino, I hope Wendy Davis blow that jerk off out the water come November.

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    Posted: August 4, 2014, 11:49 am - IP Logged

    I hope Wendy Davis blow that jerk off out the water come November.

    Uh, seen the latest polls?  The last one I looked at had Abbott w/ a 17 point lead, a lead which has been climbing steadily since the primaries.  He also has a campaign fund that is three times that of Abortion Barbie's. (granted, a lot of Abbott's money comes from big business, but most of Wendy's comes from out-of-state) While Abbott isn't the candidate I wanted (or voted for in the primary), Davis' whining, lies about her past, perceived gold-digging and shady dealings * after being elected state senator should make the choice easy for Texans.   (well, Texans that want an ethical governor, that is)  I predict Abbott in a landslide.

    *Cronyism, taxpayer abuse, conflict of interest, betrayal of public trust.   

    I know the progressives want to turn Texas "blue", but the only way they're going to be able to do that faster than they predict is by holding their breath.  THAT'S the kind of blue Texas I'd love to see.


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      Posted: August 4, 2014, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

      I hope Wendy Davis blow that jerk off out the water come November.

      Uh, seen the latest polls?  The last one I looked at had Abbott w/ a 17 point lead, a lead which has been climbing steadily since the primaries.  He also has a campaign fund that is three times that of Abortion Barbie's. (granted, a lot of Abbott's money comes from big business, but most of Wendy's comes from out-of-state) While Abbott isn't the candidate I wanted (or voted for in the primary), Davis' whining, lies about her past, perceived gold-digging and shady dealings * after being elected state senator should make the choice easy for Texans.   (well, Texans that want an ethical governor, that is)  I predict Abbott in a landslide.

      *Cronyism, taxpayer abuse, conflict of interest, betrayal of public trust.   

      I know the progressives want to turn Texas "blue", but the only way they're going to be able to do that faster than they predict is by holding their breath.  THAT'S the kind of blue Texas I'd love to see.

      Exactly!

      If the Democrats turn Texas blue, it is game over. Increased taxes, increased regs on the energy industry, etc etc etc. Forget the little bit the poor put into the lottery. That money will be gone paying to the state. What we've got makes a robust economy, even good during economic downturns. The last time Texas was hit hard by a recession the Democrats were running the state. The poor get poorer, the rich get richer, and the middle class sinks to poverty.

      Texas Lottery isn't going anywhere. And Texas isn't turning blue in 2014.

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      singlewinnersinglewinnersinglewinner   

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        Posted: August 4, 2014, 10:42 pm - IP Logged

        I banged that out a little faster than I should have b/c I was annoyed.   I also meant to add that Ms. Pink Tennies got fewer votes in the primary than any Democratic gubernatorial nominee since 1998. She failed to carry several of the traditionally Democrat Rio Grande Valley counties, the only one to do so in 20 yrs. and even lost counties Obama had won.  Her one-trick-pony platform of killing more non-white babies isn't winning any support amongst the mostly devout Catholic Hispanic voters as she and her Yankee handlers had hoped, either.   OTOH, Abbot speaks fluent Spanish and his wife is a Latina.

        The bulk of her money has been coming from Hollywood, something that isn't going over very well with independents and the conservative Democrat voters.  From what I've read, the DNC has quietly been pulling back its support - and money - in Texas and putting it into another state that shows much more promise of turning "purple", or at least capturing the governor's office - Georgia.

        Unless Abbott makes some horrific blunder prior to the election, it's game - set - match.


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          Posted: August 5, 2014, 6:15 am - IP Logged

          Some "believe the lottery was a trick and the state of Texas was sold a bag of goods that hasn't delivered," said Rob Kohler, a consultant with the Dallas-based Christian Life Commission of the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which opposes gambling.

          This is just one of several groups either believing they could run the lottery much better or believe the lottery should be abolished all together. In January the lottery commission purposed a Keno type game called "Texas Triple Chance" which opponents said was not even a lottery game. Lots of state lotteries have Keno type games and are very popular. The difference in Texas apparently is the hypocrisy of pretending the lottery is really not gambling giving the lottery opponents plenty of ammunition to calling for the lottery to be abolished.

          "What replaces that revenue? That's the $2 billion question."

          How about going after the tax exempt organizations opposing the lottery?

          I'd love to see how these folks would respond to the idea that if the Lottery was ended that to make up the money, they would need to start taxing their churches. I can't imagine how quickly they would backtrack their statements that the lottery hasn't delivered.

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            Posted: August 5, 2014, 8:07 am - IP Logged

            I live just off I-35 North of Fort Worth.

            Yeah, I thought about the extra taxes. I'm with ya, really can't see them shutting it down. Money talks and BS walks.

            Soon as the elections are over, they will be done pandering to their base.

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              Posted: August 5, 2014, 11:37 am - IP Logged

              I'd love to see how these folks would respond to the idea that if the Lottery was ended that to make up the money, they would need to start taxing their churches. I can't imagine how quickly they would backtrack their statements that the lottery hasn't delivered.

              When the Texas Legislators created the law, they probably didn't think it would apply to their most successful state agency. Because of it, all the lottery opponents are coming out of the woodwork.

              "It's gobbling up folks' money that they could otherwise use to buy food, pay health insurance or send their kids to camp."

              There are hundreds of different choices people make every day where the same thing could be said. The Legislators will posture about a number of things, but the bottom line is the Texas Lottery is a cash cow. That will be the main thought when the committee acts in December.

              I wonder how much was spent sending missionaries to Africa to catch Ebola?

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                Posted: August 6, 2014, 10:27 am - IP Logged

                Could the folks running Texas be  afraid that the common folks who win the  lottery may become politically active and are perceived as threats by the Politicians?

                Just asking.

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                  Posted: August 6, 2014, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

                  I'm not in Texas but wonder if this is a ploy to get people to play more....... to keep it going.

                  "Disinformation".

                  Kind of a back door approach to you can't buy that kind of publicity.

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    Posted: August 6, 2014, 7:40 pm - IP Logged

                    I'm not in Texas but wonder if this is a ploy to get people to play more....... to keep it going.

                    "Disinformation".

                    Kind of a back door approach to you can't buy that kind of publicity.

                    I haven't thought of that, but I really don't think so. They actually voted to shut it down last year, then. ooops. Where do we make up the billion dollars???

                    I'm hopeful that cooler heads will prevail. Again.

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                      Posted: August 7, 2014, 7:33 am - IP Logged

                      Could the folks running Texas be  afraid that the common folks who win the  lottery may become politically active and are perceived as threats by the Politicians?

                      Just asking.

                      I read a study done in the UK and Australia that says that winning the lottery makes you more politically conservative, i.e Republican.  If that is true in America, the Dems wouldn't want any of their voters to win!

                      Winning the Lottery Makes you More Conservative

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                        I read a study done in the UK and Australia that says that winning the lottery makes you more politically conservative, i.e Republican.  If that is true in America, the Dems wouldn't want any of their voters to win!

                        Winning the Lottery Makes you More Conservative

                        I don't know about that - I'm sure having to pay such a huge chunk of taxes would make just about anyone want a little more fiscal responsibility in the govt. that just sliced off a big percentage of their winnings.  It's like that old saying "A liberal is someone who has been arrested and a conservative is someone who has been mugged."  IOW, your personal experiences help shape your belief systems.

                        I do want to correct you on one thing: "...more politically conservative, i.e Republican."

                        Republican and conservative are not necessarily one and the same and are too often not.


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                          When the Texas Legislators created the law, they probably didn't think it would apply to their most successful state agency. Because of it, all the lottery opponents are coming out of the woodwork.

                          "It's gobbling up folks' money that they could otherwise use to buy food, pay health insurance or send their kids to camp."

                          There are hundreds of different choices people make every day where the same thing could be said. The Legislators will posture about a number of things, but the bottom line is the Texas Lottery is a cash cow. That will be the main thought when the committee acts in December.

                          I wonder how much was spent sending missionaries to Africa to catch Ebola?

                          You're right. I wonder how much money people spend on fast food instead of buying something like beans and rice? Or buying sodas instead of water? Owning and driving a car instead of taking public transport? If they want these people to have more money to do those things listed they would push those sources of money savers.

                          And not just catching Ebola, but also having missionaries that molest kids in orphanages. How about they fix their own issues before trying to force their ideals upon everyone else?

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                            You're right. I wonder how much money people spend on fast food instead of buying something like beans and rice? Or buying sodas instead of water? Owning and driving a car instead of taking public transport? If they want these people to have more money to do those things listed they would push those sources of money savers.

                            And not just catching Ebola, but also having missionaries that molest kids in orphanages. How about they fix their own issues before trying to force their ideals upon everyone else?

                            The lottery is just one of many Texas state agencies that is under review.

                            "The bill was initially defeated 81-65, leading state Rep. Linda Harper Brown to declare from the dais that "the lottery commission is gone." But concerns about how to replace the more than $2 billion budget hole that would create led to a new vote in which the lottery survived 92-53."

                            The lottery profit is after all the employees, vendors, agents, and retailers are paid so there is quite a bit more on the table than the issue of how people should spend their money.

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                              If Texas scraps the state lottery, you can always play another state lottery.
                               
                              The Massachusetts State Lottery offers a subscription service, which is open to all residents across the USA.
                               
                              Players can subscribe over the phone and your Season Tickets will be mailed to you. 
                               
                              Players can purchase Season Tickets for 3 months, 6 months, or 12 months.

                              We all get a lot out of lotteries!