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Posted: December 23, 2014, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

You quoting MLK in line with your hypocrisy is an utter disgrace.You ought to go back and read your own crap.Your last post was about you " judging people"- by whose authority? ..yours it would seem. I asked you a simple question" have you ever stereotyped anyone- your reply " crickets"

So like l said, get off your high horse charming and out of your bubble. I told you to go back to the shadows to where your evil thoughts are conjured up since you seem to think you part of the Justice league righting so called wrongs.

Say what you will- l know hypocrisy when l see it.

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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    You quoting MLK in line with your hypocrisy is an utter disgrace.You ought to go back and read your own crap.Your last post was about you " judging people"- by whose authority? ..yours it would seem. I asked you a simple question" have you ever stereotyped anyone- your reply " crickets"

    So like l said, get off your high horse charming and out of your bubble. I told you to go back to the shadows to where your evil thoughts are conjured up since you seem to think you part of the Justice league righting so called wrongs.

    Say what you will- l know hypocrisy when l see it.

    I made my case. You did what you did. Anyone reading this thread will see you are wrong. As far as questioning my character, provide your evidence. Otherwise you are just jumping to another conclusion. Just in case I didn't make myself clear enough here is what I'm talking about,

    noise-gate  "Since the article does not name of the owner who did the deed, l could not help thinking of a name we all familiar with...yeah that one : Patel."

    It is plain as day to anyone with a working brain cell that remark showed prejudice. Just dig that hole deeper. You are showing your true colors.

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      Posted: December 23, 2014, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

       Tis the Season...

      You may have thought you " made your case" but a Higher Power made this case charming and l know it trumps your thinking...

       

      New International Version

      "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?  Matt 7:3.

       

      * This is the end of this discussion for me, based on the simple fact that it has run its course, and more importantly- you cannot Checkmate the Christ.

      People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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        mikeintexa,

        U.R. Stuck, can't believe she fell for it, good one.

        Scared

        PrinceRene,

        It's plain as day that many of the people who have been here a lot longer than you and are familiar with the News forum threads about lottery scams wouldn't be at all surprised to find out someone named Patel was involved.

        Stop looking for excuses to call others 'racist' - GASP! - and start arguments.

        Here, consider this, at the Vegas Golden Nugget in the late 1980s, prior to internet electronic banking, a lot of players from Hong Kong came and had large 'lines of credit' from their local 'banks'. they'd take out markers and if they won, they won. If they lost they'd say, "I go home now, good luck when you call Hong Kong and ask for Mister Lee."

        If you were too busy jumping to conclusions to understand the story, there was no such bank and no such lines of credit, it was just bogus phone numbers on fancy looking business cards with an accomplice back in Hong Kong on the phone.

        So naturally, after that anyone from Hong Kong named Lee that asked for big markers was suspect, but I guess you'll tell us that's 'racist.'

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Posted: December 24, 2014, 3:43 am - IP Logged

           Tis the Season...

          You may have thought you " made your case" but a Higher Power made this case charming and l know it trumps your thinking...

           

          New International Version

          "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?  Matt 7:3.

           

          * This is the end of this discussion for me, based on the simple fact that it has run its course, and more importantly- you cannot Checkmate the Christ.

          "you cannot Checkmate the Christ"

          seems like an airtight argument to me. Green laugh

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            mikeintexa,

            U.R. Stuck, can't believe she fell for it, good one.

            Scared

            PrinceRene,

            It's plain as day that many of the people who have been here a lot longer than you and are familiar with the News forum threads about lottery scams wouldn't be at all surprised to find out someone named Patel was involved.

            Stop looking for excuses to call others 'racist' - GASP! - and start arguments.

            Here, consider this, at the Vegas Golden Nugget in the late 1980s, prior to internet electronic banking, a lot of players from Hong Kong came and had large 'lines of credit' from their local 'banks'. they'd take out markers and if they won, they won. If they lost they'd say, "I go home now, good luck when you call Hong Kong and ask for Mister Lee."

            If you were too busy jumping to conclusions to understand the story, there was no such bank and no such lines of credit, it was just bogus phone numbers on fancy looking business cards with an accomplice back in Hong Kong on the phone.

            So naturally, after that anyone from Hong Kong named Lee that asked for big markers was suspect, but I guess you'll tell us that's 'racist.'

            so I take it you stand with NG's comment that the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was East Indian then? You do know that was not the case right? He made a gross generalization and he was wrong. I don't understand why he made that comment anyway. He could have just waited until more information from the case was revealed or did a google search on who the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was.

            When someone makes a prediction about the ethnicity of someone who committed a crime how does that make them look? Also, how much worse do they look when they are wrong about their prediction?

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              so I take it you stand with NG's comment that the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was East Indian then? You do know that was not the case right? He made a gross generalization and he was wrong. I don't understand why he made that comment anyway. He could have just waited until more information from the case was revealed or did a google search on who the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was.

              When someone makes a prediction about the ethnicity of someone who committed a crime how does that make them look? Also, how much worse do they look when they are wrong about their prediction?

              Even though I live in a mostly rural area of KY, there is a large ethnic diversification among the various store owners. Recently a young couple named Patel purchased a gas/food mart/convenient store and both of them are business major grads. If I were to read where one the area stores was caught cheating, their store would be last store I would guess.

              It depends on how comments are viewed and to me Noise was just commenting on the many lottery news stories about lottery scams involving a Patel. I won't comment on my opinion of the other poster trying to justify Noise's remarks except to say age is a huge factor.

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                so I take it you stand with NG's comment that the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was East Indian then? You do know that was not the case right? He made a gross generalization and he was wrong. I don't understand why he made that comment anyway. He could have just waited until more information from the case was revealed or did a google search on who the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose was.

                When someone makes a prediction about the ethnicity of someone who committed a crime how does that make them look? Also, how much worse do they look when they are wrong about their prediction?

                I take it that you jumped to a conclusion about 'racist' when anyone mentions a Patel might be involved in a lottery scam. As I said, had you been around here and were more familiar with the News Forum threads about scams you would have been aware of the Patel factor.

                You're not the only one who blindly made 'that's racist' remarks about this.

                As far as a 'prediction' about the ethnicity of someone who committed a crime you obviously are not familiar with the experience 'factor' of lottery investigators.

                You assume very much with very little to back it up.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  I take it that you jumped to a conclusion about 'racist' when anyone mentions a Patel might be involved in a lottery scam. As I said, had you been around here and were more familiar with the News Forum threads about scams you would have been aware of the Patel factor.

                  You're not the only one who blindly made 'that's racist' remarks about this.

                  As far as a 'prediction' about the ethnicity of someone who committed a crime you obviously are not familiar with the experience 'factor' of lottery investigators.

                  You assume very much with very little to back it up.

                  It was already shown by myself and other posters that the owner of RD's Deli and Market in Melrose, Massachusetts did not have the surname of Patel. I submit the link below as proof or you can look it up for yourself on google if you don't believe me. 

                  Rd's Delicatessen & Market

                  463 Franklin St
                  MelroseMA  02176

                  Phone: (781) 662-7412

                  Chang Cho, Owner 

                  source: 

                  http://www.manta.com/c/mm07qwz/rd-s-delicatessen-market?ftoggle-frontend-prod-on=abTests.revenue.responsive_12162014_a&utm_expid=82789632-30.8Ue3RXoXRoWAwC0cgSs_wg.2&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.manta.com%252Fc%252Fmm07qwz%252Frd-s-delicatessen-market%26ei%3D3ryXVLb1HJbroASs_YKgBw%26usg%3DAFQjCNGoNvnrnuuXkYDzRFry_dvphY-vNw%26sig2%3D_4DM453T9ezdhVzGcQpm5g%26bvm%3Dbv.82001339%2Cd.cGU

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                    Even though I live in a mostly rural area of KY, there is a large ethnic diversification among the various store owners. Recently a young couple named Patel purchased a gas/food mart/convenient store and both of them are business major grads. If I were to read where one the area stores was caught cheating, their store would be last store I would guess.

                    It depends on how comments are viewed and to me Noise was just commenting on the many lottery news stories about lottery scams involving a Patel. I won't comment on my opinion of the other poster trying to justify Noise's remarks except to say age is a huge factor.

                    Noise has already said he wants to end the discussion. Frankly, I have better things to do over the holidays. I'm not bringing up the subject anymore unless someone wants me to keep debating.

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                      PrinceRene,

                      We're not talking about that particular incident.

                      Noise-gate just made mention of 'Patel' and you went off on this tangent.

                      I'd post links to all the not-so-nice Patel articles but I'm sure no proof would sway your opinion.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        PrinceRene,

                        We're not talking about that particular incident.

                        Noise-gate just made mention of 'Patel' and you went off on this tangent.

                        I'd post links to all the not-so-nice Patel articles but I'm sure no proof would sway your opinion.

                        "We're not talking about that particular incident."

                        The story is about one store owner, Chang Cho losing their lottery license for scamming and you want to post unrelated links to articles about people named Patel. 

                        We all get your point, but your links won't prove all store owners named Patel scam their customers; no more than links about cheating casino dealers proves all dealers are cheats.

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                          "We're not talking about that particular incident."

                          The story is about one store owner, Chang Cho losing their lottery license for scamming and you want to post unrelated links to articles about people named Patel. 

                          We all get your point, but your links won't prove all store owners named Patel scam their customers; no more than links about cheating casino dealers proves all dealers are cheats.

                          Well Stack, if I was of the pc mindset I'd be highly GASP offended by you insinuating dealers are cheats. I guess your vast knowledge of everything in casinos you got from Barney Vinsons' book didn't inform you that in the old days 'mechanics' were purposely  put on certain games or that 'cheats' don't last long.
                          I guess you just had to make a comment. I'll just consider part of your neenee neener it is condition.

                          As for this thread,

                          OP title:  Scamming store owner loses lottery license

                          Post by noise-gate:  Since the article does not name of the owner who did the deed, l could not help thinking of a name we all familiar with...yeah that one : Patel.


                          I not only see no harm in what noise-gate said but face it others here were thinking the same thing.

                          I guess in your twisted mind you and only you can have an opinion.

                          Golf Foxtrot Yankee.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Well Stack, if I was of the pc mindset I'd be highly GASP offended by you insinuating dealers are cheats. I guess your vast knowledge of everything in casinos you got from Barney Vinsons' book didn't inform you that in the old days 'mechanics' were purposely  put on certain games or that 'cheats' don't last long.
                            I guess you just had to make a comment. I'll just consider part of your neenee neener it is condition.

                            As for this thread,

                            OP title:  Scamming store owner loses lottery license

                            Post by noise-gate:  Since the article does not name of the owner who did the deed, l could not help thinking of a name we all familiar with...yeah that one : Patel.


                            I not only see no harm in what noise-gate said but face it others here were thinking the same thing.

                            I guess in your twisted mind you and only you can have an opinion.

                            Golf Foxtrot Yankee.

                            "if I was of the pc mindset I'd be highly GASP offended by you insinuating dealers are cheats."

                            It sure looks like you were offended and ticked off, but you won't admit it even though you told me to "GFY".

                            "Barney Vinsons' book didn't inform you that in the old days 'mechanics' were purposely  put on certain games or that 'cheats' don't last long."

                            Several of my gaming books have stories about the "old days" as did several of the TV shows about casino gambling on various cable stations. You weren't the only person hearing those stories while working inside the casino industry because many others wrote books telling the same stories. And some were re-enacted for TV. Are you saying the stories you heard are trade secrets? 

                            The only unique story I read by you was trying to show some Asian gamblers how to play Craps at a casino where you didn't work. Congratulation for at least trying to show them your way of playing Craps is superior. Did you tell them to GFY when came back to your casino and played their old way?

                            "I not only see no harm in what noise-gate said but face it others here were thinking the same thing."

                            The only thing I mentioned about Noise's remarks was "It depends on how comments are viewed and to me Noise was just commenting on the many lottery news stories about lottery scams involving a Patel".

                            "I'd post links to all the not-so-nice Patel articles but I'm sure no proof would sway your opinion."

                            And I gave the cheating dealer analogy without mentioning any ethnic group, country, or any specific game, but it really ticked you off. Posting those links about only the Patels will confirm opinions about you. 

                            A store owner lost his lottery license after being caught scamming a mentally disabled woman. Do you have anything to add about that?

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                              Well Stack since no one's actual experiences can compare to the extensive knowledge you've picked up from 'gaming'* books and you always have to have the last word talking to you has become the equivalent of telling a hair raising story to a bald headed man.

                              * In the 1980s when the casinos had to go out of state for financing they had to deal with Mormon bankers. They knew gambling wasn't a palatable word to use when trying to get money from Mormon bankers to expand the business so gambling became 'gaming'.

                              As far as 'hearing those stories on cable' while working in casinos we didn't just hear them, we lived them. Et Vous?

                              Adios.

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.