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The local TV star who rigged the lottery

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There was a movie, called "Lucky Numbers" released in 1994.

John Travolta and Lisa Kudrow make a "high-energy comedy team" in this side-splittingly funny comedy inspired by a real-life scam to win the Pennsylvania lottery. Travolta "is truly irresistible" as Russ Richards, a weatherman in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Russ is a local celebrity, but when an unusually mild winter causes his snowmobile dealership to take a plunge, Russ needs a get-rich scheme - and fast. With his greedy girlfriend (Lisa Kudrow) - the TV's station's lotto-ball girl - and a criminally minded buddy (Tim Roth), Russ hatches a plan to fix the lottery. Russ's numbers come up right, but then everything goes completely wrong, throwing Russ and his co-conspirators into comic chaos. Directed by Nora Ephron (Sleepless in Seattle, You've Got Mail) and co-starring Ed O'Neill, Michael Rapaport and Bill Pullman, Lucky Numbers is a comedy jackpot for film fans.

Funny thing - I just watched this movie last night o Amazon Prime.  It was funny.

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    I've often said that the lotteries use the pre-test drawings to control the randomness of the drawings and games. In other words, by not just letting things fall as they may as it would if everything were completely random, they use the pre-tests to eliminate possible hot streaks of individual numbers, or to eliminate possible patterns that may be spotted by the players.

    We've all seen things happen that are so very strange or unusual that it almost defies belief. Almost to the point that we wonder if there is "something funny" going on. But if it is truly random these things will happen. It is what it is...

    So why not just have the official drawing and that's it. If they want to test the machines to make sure they work properly, why not use numberless balls?

    Watch this video from an earlier post.  https://youtu.be/2U0tkR-fg28

    At the 2:23 mark it says the following: "The machines will be tested 9 times to ensure that no number or number combination comes up more often than statistically expected."

    If it does we all know what will happen next, change the ball set. Why? Because it isn't normal? A pick 4 double not appearing in 19 drawings isn't normal either but it happens. You just watched all the security procedures, how is tampering even remotely possible?

    So explain to me how this is being truly random.

    "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

    The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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      Kentucky lottery used my question 'our good friend J.H. has a question about pick 3' or something like that on a news show.   It is quite rigorous what they do and you may not have faith in the lottery, but I sure do. 

       I met Chip Polston and the KLC President three weeks ago---along with Vanna White in Louisville.   Chip is the announcer that posed my question.   I remarked to him about what a great guy Todd is and he said yes he is.  Speaking to the President I asked him (from FL lottery) if they can play on-line there?   He said No.   Said I'm lucky that the Kentucky Lottery is very progressive; even my home state of Massachusetts you cannot play on-line.  Nothing beats clicking and buying!

      Then it was another photo-op with Vanna White from Wheel of Fortune!

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        Was your question to the Kentucky Lottery President "can Florida residences play Online in Florida"?

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          Was your question to the Kentucky Lottery President "can Florida residences play Online in Florida"?

          Yes, it was.   At the time of his departure and maybe today (?) you still can't.  He was the President of the FL lottery prior to coming here.

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            Yes, it was.   At the time of his departure and maybe today (?) you still can't.  He was the President of the FL lottery prior to coming here.

            Under FL FAQ's it said no Internet sales, no mail, Fax or Subscription services to their customers.   Talk about inconvenience!

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              Funny thing - I just watched this movie last night o Amazon Prime.  It was funny.

              I may watch it too

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                Under FL FAQ's it said no Internet sales, no mail, Fax or Subscription services to their customers.   Talk about inconvenience!

                That's the CA lottery's position as well Jeff. They want to hear nothing about subscriptions or online gambling. If you a lottery player that is wheelchair bound, they expect you to wheel yourself to the store or get someone to purchase your lottery tickets for you. How thoughtful of them.Unhappy

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                  Yes, it was.   At the time of his departure and maybe today (?) you still can't.  He was the President of the FL lottery prior to coming here.

                  With the exception of subscriptions, players must physically be in a state to play their Online lottery games. The same rules apply to state with Internet poker. Next time ask why pick-3 and pick-4 are not offered Online in KY.

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                    I've often said that the lotteries use the pre-test drawings to control the randomness of the drawings and games. In other words, by not just letting things fall as they may as it would if everything were completely random, they use the pre-tests to eliminate possible hot streaks of individual numbers, or to eliminate possible patterns that may be spotted by the players.

                    We've all seen things happen that are so very strange or unusual that it almost defies belief. Almost to the point that we wonder if there is "something funny" going on. But if it is truly random these things will happen. It is what it is...

                    So why not just have the official drawing and that's it. If they want to test the machines to make sure they work properly, why not use numberless balls?

                    Watch this video from an earlier post.  https://youtu.be/2U0tkR-fg28

                    At the 2:23 mark it says the following: "The machines will be tested 9 times to ensure that no number or number combination comes up more often than statistically expected."

                    If it does we all know what will happen next, change the ball set. Why? Because it isn't normal? A pick 4 double not appearing in 19 drawings isn't normal either but it happens. You just watched all the security procedures, how is tampering even remotely possible?

                    So explain to me how this is being truly random.

                    We've all seen things happen that are so very strange or unusual that it almost defies belief. Almost to the point that we wonder if there is "something funny" going on. But if it is truly random these things will happen. It is what it is...

                    Or is it? What?

                    A perfect example in Maryland.

                    Pick 3

                    10/21/19  Eve 423    Pick  4

                    10/22/19  Mid 432    10/22/19  Mid  3954

                                                   10/23/19  Mid  4359

                    "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                    The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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                      We've all seen things happen that are so very strange or unusual that it almost defies belief. Almost to the point that we wonder if there is "something funny" going on. But if it is truly random these things will happen. It is what it is...

                      Or is it? What?

                      A perfect example in Maryland.

                      Pick 3

                      10/21/19  Eve 423    Pick  4

                      10/22/19  Mid 432    10/22/19  Mid  3954

                                                     10/23/19  Mid  4359

                      Just to add to this.

                      10/23 Mid  135

                      10/24 Eve  531

                      C'mon man... Is this really random???

                      "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                      The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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                        Just to add to this.

                        10/23 Mid  135

                        10/24 Eve  531

                        C'mon man... Is this really random???

                        Here's some more. 

                        Maryland Pick 4 Mid. Oct 7 thru Oct 24. 18 days. (so far)

                        Guess how many of those days the #9 hit? 15!!!   7 days in a row. Twice. 

                        That's right. The #9 has hit in 15 out of the last 18 midday drawings.

                        By the way. The #3 has now hit 5 days in a row on the midday.

                        The 39/93 pair has hit 5 days in a row. 

                        Normal? Random? You tell me.

                        "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                        The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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                          Agree with comments about random or not.

                          Maryland isn't the lone state with these random number anomalies. IMO I believe all state lotteries along with PB/MM, exhibit this same randomness. 

                          I believe the state lotteries have to pay out a certain percentage and whatever it is, state lotteries (PB and MM included) payout at that rate, if not lower.

                          But what happens if they don't? IMO that's when you see a certain number hit and millions are paid out...usually makes the news. Why?  If it's random shouldn't this be considered a normal payout?

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                            A "normal" payout is probably one that's typical or common. An unusually high payout is unusual or atypical because they don't happen very often, but they're certainly not abnormal in terms of random probability.

                            The typical payout is fairly uniform, but a small handful of the possible outcomes are each played by an unusually high number of players.  The unusually high number of 5+0 PB winners who all played the same set of fortune cookie numbers is one example, and because it was a very uncommon result it got news coverage that we'd never see for the usual number of 5+0 winners.