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Posted: August 17, 2005, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

Sandy,

I am very happy that you have had good luck with them.  I, on the other hand, am not smiling. 

 

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    Posted: August 17, 2005, 11:52 pm - IP Logged

    In know W2B, I smile whenever I see the bashing of the online quarter store....I smile all the way to the bank........never had a problem with payment.....and for the past 6 months I have been playing entirely with their money; my original investment went safely into the bank months ago.

    Don't get me started on the money for schools........it is some racket!!

    Can I have some of your popcorn W2B, while we watch the show? 

    in ga. it is NOT a racket

    love to nibble those micey feet.

     

                                 

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      Posted: August 18, 2005, 1:46 am - IP Logged

      Georgia is one of the only states where the money really goes to education unlike Florida where it releases money for education to be spent elsewhere.

      Not saying Georgia does everything else right . . .  BobP

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        Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:09 am - IP Logged

        So Todd you are not smiling because of what?  You have had bad luck with them???

        I know you don't like them but the reason? 

        Legally, it is questionable. 

        My reason:  I don't have to leave the house....not even the bet amount of a quarter versus 50 cents....I just have to click the button and I am there.

        As far as the lottery money for the schools, they funnel it elsewhere (yes, a portion goes there, but not as much as they say because of the overhead costs like salaries, CPA's, machine maintainence, etc (I would love to know the salary of Gary Peters (the lottery director of Michigan)......and the Government is cutting back on the funding for the schools because the states are getting the lottery money.  I never took state money for my children's education...they all went to Private Parochial schools from Grade School thru High School.....so I do not feel guilty at all......when the state wouldn't provide decent bus service for my children (the public school's bus picked the kids up down the block while mine had to walk 6 blocks to catch it, even in the winter), I literally went down to every available source (the city, the school board, etc.) asking why and petitioned them to reconsider....they just said no....but my taxes went to fund the bus service and their schools......and I drove my children to school.....every day for 15 years I drove them to and from....now if you figure the gas money.....wow, the schools made out.

        So, I do not support the schools any more than my taxes I pay which are horrorendous ( $6,000) a year and I don't have any children in school at the present time. So that is their gift from me..... Guilt, not me.......

        Sandy

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          Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:23 am - IP Logged

          So Todd you are not smiling because of what?  You have had bad luck with them???

          I know you don't like them but the reason? 

          Legally, it is questionable. 

          My reason:  I don't have to leave the house....not even the bet amount of a quarter versus 50 cents....I just have to click the button and I am there.

          As far as the lottery money for the schools, they funnel it elsewhere (yes, a portion goes there, but not as much as they say because of the overhead costs like salaries, CPA's, machine maintainence, etc (I would love to know the salary of Gary Peters (the lottery director of Michigan)......and the Government is cutting back on the funding for the schools because the states are getting the lottery money.  I never took state money for my children's education...they all went to Private Parochial schools from Grade School thru High School.....so I do not feel guilty at all......when the state wouldn't provide decent bus service for my children (the public school's bus picked the kids up down the block while mine had to walk 6 blocks to catch it, even in the winter), I literally went down to every available source (the city, the school board, etc.) asking why and petitioned them to reconsider....they just said no....but my taxes went to fund the bus service and their schools......and I drove my children to school.....every day for 15 years I drove them to and from....now if you figure the gas money.....wow, the schools made out.

          So, I do not support the schools any more than my taxes I pay which are horrorendous ( $6,000) a year and I don't have any children in school at the present time. So that is their gift from me..... Guilt, not me.......

          I'm out of the loop on this and a bit confused.

          What, exactly, are you talking about?

          Jack

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            Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:25 am - IP Logged

            well, rip start at the beginning of the topic and read on........

            Sandy

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              Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:27 am - IP Logged

              So Todd you are not smiling because of what?  You have had bad luck with them???

              I know you don't like them but the reason? 

              Legally, it is questionable. 

              My reason:  I don't have to leave the house....not even the bet amount of a quarter versus 50 cents....I just have to click the button and I am there.

              As far as the lottery money for the schools, they funnel it elsewhere (yes, a portion goes there, but not as much as they say because of the overhead costs like salaries, CPA's, machine maintainence, etc (I would love to know the salary of Gary Peters (the lottery director of Michigan)......and the Government is cutting back on the funding for the schools because the states are getting the lottery money.  I never took state money for my children's education...they all went to Private Parochial schools from Grade School thru High School.....so I do not feel guilty at all......when the state wouldn't provide decent bus service for my children (the public school's bus picked the kids up down the block while mine had to walk 6 blocks to catch it, even in the winter), I literally went down to every available source (the city, the school board, etc.) asking why and petitioned them to reconsider....they just said no....but my taxes went to fund the bus service and their schools......and I drove my children to school.....every day for 15 years I drove them to and from....now if you figure the gas money.....wow, the schools made out.

              So, I do not support the schools any more than my taxes I pay which are horrorendous ( $6,000) a year and I don't have any children in school at the present time. So that is their gift from me..... Guilt, not me.......

              I talked about it in this thread:

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/117942

              In the middle of that thread, I was made aware of something that happened to someone who used their site (it wasn't me), and what happened as a result.  I cannot go into any detail whatsoever, because I am protecting the person who placed a lot of trust in me by telling me about it.  However, I can carefully say that it is a dangerous predicament, and even if I never had a bad experience with them before, after hearing it I would never have anything to do with them.

              Now, I completely understand if someone chooses to blow that off, and frankly I wouldn't blame you, since I gave absolutely no supporting detail.  I have done all that I can to warn folks about it, without betraying the trust that was placed in me.

               

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                Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:35 am - IP Logged

                I do know that this offshore site pays you at their whim and can disavow your win if they suspect you of cheating.  I also know from personal experience that the so-called on-line "help" is worthless.  If you want a straight answer, you need to call one of the more experienced operators.

                You have to remember you are dealing with the citizens of a third-world country who probably don't know what they are doing and could care less.

                Orangeman                                                            Let It All Out

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                  Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:42 am - IP Logged

                  Orangeman,

                    If it is the site I deal with off-shore, I have been there. Most of the higher level are or were United States born and raised. They treated me and my party with respect and are in a business there because of tax laws here.

                  ez

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                    Posted: August 18, 2005, 11:49 am - IP Logged

                    well, rip start at the beginning of the topic and read on........

                    Ah well.

                    I'm not familiar with the off-shore site everyone has strong feelings about one way or the other.

                    But I'm definitely grateful for the opportunity to play Euro Millions on the site Todd's provided.  In the event I win something I'd prefer it to be through an outfit where there's no diversity of opinion concerning whether I'd actually see it paid.  If I have my absolute druthers.

                    I don't play online casino games, and under ordinary circumstances I wouldn't trust any online gambling site.  I'm basing my willingness to play this one entirely on Todd's assurances as to their reliability.

                    Jack

                    Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                    It's about number behavior.

                    Egos don't count.

                     

                    Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                     

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                      Posted: August 18, 2005, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

                      I have mixed feelings about them, but have never had any problems with them, that could not be solved after I talked to them either online or thru a telephone call.

                      They do have their problems and often enough, but in the end everything is always fixed to satisfaction, I like them very much better than I do the Texas Lottery, I just wish that they would not use the results from the state lotteries, that there was a better and safer alternative, like some independent and neutral source of regular (daily) pick 3 and pick 4 winning numbers.

                      I don't trust lotteries who hold their own drawings, the source of winning numbers should always come from an uninterested and neutral party.

                      Good luck to all.

                      In the end a person should play at where-ever he or she can win the most and more often where-ever that might be at.

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                        The argument for giving money to schools does not hold water for a number of reasons.  Many states (California included) is supposed to give a percentage (I think 33%) of the amount wagered to schools.  Sounds great, but you read more and more about less money being allocated to schools in the budgets because "they are getting funds from the lottery".  Here where I live in California the schools have set up programs for people to give money to the schools so they can purchase needed supplies.  Mostly, teachers have had to do this out of their own pockets (they still do).

                        If you are concerned about the schools getting money, then why not write a check?  Better yet, play lottery on line and donate a portion of your winnings to the schools.  If you spend $100 in your state on lottery tickets (pick 3 I'm talking about right now), the schools (statewide) get $33.33.  If you were to hit a straight, you would probably get paid $500.  If you bet $100 on line, the schools get nothing.  If you hit a straight, you will get $900.  Why not take that extra $400 and split it with the school of your choice?  Write them a check for $200.

                         

                         

                        CD... You are so right about teachers spending money out of their own pockets...

                         

                        To top that off.. Teachers have to hold annual fund rasiers to buy the copy paper, ink supplies to furnish students with practice papers...

                        We, (the school) has to earn our own money, with fundrasiers to buy anything the school needs... We earned the money to put in air conditioning in the gym... 

                        The state does cover some of the basics.. but it is up to the school to get to work to and find ways to buy our needs.. 

                        Telephone, lights, water, etc.. come from our fund raisers too...

                         

                         

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                          Posted: August 18, 2005, 12:44 pm - IP Logged

                          CD... You are so right about teachers spending money out of their own pockets...

                          To top that off.. Teachers have to hold annual fund rasiers to buy the copy paper, ink supplies to furnish students with practice papers...

                          We, (the school) has to earn our own money, with fundrasiers to buy anything the school needs... We earned the money to put in air conditioning in the gym... 

                          The state does cover some of the basics.. but it is up to the school to get to work to and find ways to buy our needs.. 

                          Telephone, lights, water, etc.. come from our fund raisers too...

                          That's fairly cool, actually.  Sounds as though things are are a lot more nearly as they should be than I'd have suspected, despite the lottery.

                          One of the things that's concerned me about all this lottery- for- education- stuff has been that I hate to see parents, localities, jurisdictions robbed of the responsibility for paying for the educations of their own chillerns and put it into the hands of strangers who have no reason to care whether those kids are educated, or aren't. 

                          You've restored a bit of my faith, tntea.

                          Jack

                           

                          Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                          It's about number behavior.

                          Egos don't count.

                           

                          Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                           

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                            Posted: August 18, 2005, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

                            Todd, that is one case and I know of a couple more also.......because they did not copy and paste their numbers into an excel or notepad on their computer..

                            I have had only one case where I have had to "prove" my bet.....and I just called them and it was fixed immediately.

                            The only rule is....."copy and paste everything"........

                            Sandy

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                              Posted: August 18, 2005, 12:50 pm - IP Logged

                              The argument for giving money to schools does not hold water for a number of reasons.  Many states (California included) is supposed to give a percentage (I think 33%) of the amount wagered to schools.  Sounds great, but you read more and more about less money being allocated to schools in the budgets because "they are getting funds from the lottery".  Here where I live in California the schools have set up programs for people to give money to the schools so they can purchase needed supplies.  Mostly, teachers have had to do this out of their own pockets (they still do).

                              If you are concerned about the schools getting money, then why not write a check?  Better yet, play lottery on line and donate a portion of your winnings to the schools.  If you spend $100 in your state on lottery tickets (pick 3 I'm talking about right now), the schools (statewide) get $33.33.  If you were to hit a straight, you would probably get paid $500.  If you bet $100 on line, the schools get nothing.  If you hit a straight, you will get $900.  Why not take that extra $400 and split it with the school of your choice?  Write them a check for $200.

                               

                               

                              CD... You are so right about teachers spending money out of their own pockets...

                               

                              To top that off.. Teachers have to hold annual fund rasiers to buy the copy paper, ink supplies to furnish students with practice papers...

                              We, (the school) has to earn our own money, with fundrasiers to buy anything the school needs... We earned the money to put in air conditioning in the gym... 

                              The state does cover some of the basics.. but it is up to the school to get to work to and find ways to buy our needs.. 

                              Telephone, lights, water, etc.. come from our fund raisers too...

                               

                               

                              That's right, tntea.  And the budgets either stay the same or go down for schools because "they are getting money from the Lottery".  The money from the lottery was a selling point (at least here in California) because of the money going to schools.  But that money is offset by the reduced budgets!

                              School is starting here in California next week.  My daughter said that all the parents were given papers with a list of supplies that they are asked to provide (box of pencils, glue, paper, etc.).  This is so that the teacher won't have to spend as much of his/her own money on those supplies as they did in the past.

                              So, tell me ... how has the lottery helped the schools?  But you will continue to hear from people (not only on this web site) saying how they play the lottery to help the schools (or at least they play in their own state instead of online).