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Posted: August 22, 2005, 2:53 pm - IP Logged

Sandy, now I remember what you're talking about!

Starting from the most recent draw and working your way backwards, use the first digit you come across that repeated in that position and the second digit that repeated in that position and wheel them for 8 combos.

IL midday example:

386

614

649

904

251

210

274

423

545

847

526

First position: 6 and 2; second position: 1 and 4; third position: 6 and 4

Combos: 616-614-646-644-216-214-246-244

Hope that's what you were talking about.

I had luck with it in MI too.

Gotta run!

PS...these would be picks for IL Tues. mid...... 614 is a straight repeat...I'd pass on that one and save a buck?

Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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    Posted: August 22, 2005, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

    Demi, if you like playing doubles, check out my above response to Sandy.  It's a version of power trails but applying the concept to each position.  You'll come up with a good share of doubles.

    Hot numbers come in more often than cold numbers in the short run no matter how you're playing them.  You could tweak it to your satisfaction and budget...lots of ways to play this game!  Jester

    Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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      Posted: August 22, 2005, 3:49 pm - IP Logged

      Exactly what I was talking about...thank you Rick.  I won't lose it this time....

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        Posted: August 22, 2005, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

        Thanks Rick!

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          LiquidDreams,

          Credit for the power trails system goes to a fellow member, Bob P.  How you use it is up to you, but the short history and ordering your numbers from hot to cold is the key.  LARRY G. and I have been using it in our own different ways for years.

          Work with it, look for patterns you can use, and as I suggested in a post above, the use of moving averages gives you an instant idea of what is getting hot and cold.

          Thanks for providing the link to Bob P.'s free website (lotto-logix.com) that's full of good info.

          Good luck!  Thumbs Up

          What I noticed about powertrails is that is does not allow for double numbers. How do you remedy that?

          -Demi

          I found that using the OHIO method with Powertrails give you the doubles you are looking for....

           

          I will see if I can find that post...Need help.. cannot find it..

           

           

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            Posted: August 22, 2005, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

            Ohioman method/powertrails with a twist...

             

            Get your numbers lined up from hot to cold...

             

            Then take the first five and reverse the order...

            Wheel the five to make combos.. then to get doubles...

            Do this....

            2,5,0,8,9 ... this is hot five in reverse order.. to make doubles do this

            225 225 228 229 255 200 288 299 955 008

             

            do the same for cold side.. but DONT reverse order..

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              Posted: August 22, 2005, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

              tntea, thank you.....I thought I was the Lone Ranger in this.....I hope this thread continues and opinions grow.......

              After sleeping on it, I might of been a little hard on BA.....I was not picking on him...I just didn't like the way the topic was worded.....it seemed a little "cocky" to me.....but he is generally right with his numbers and does us a great service by posting them.  There are just too many.....after the last time I said something, he came up with the Solaris picks...and those were awesome....but then he started adding more and more numbers and carrying them over for days at a time and adding root sums.............

              Jap is right, it is up to us to pick our numbers and not expect others to do it for us...all methods should be used as is: a confirmation of our own numbers we think would hit.

              The ones I like are the BA 343-434 method tweaked a bit......only 9 numbers to play and spotty....it gets hot and cold......but you can win once or twice a week on it...box only.

              Luckychick's method is spotty...not consistent.....mysticwomyn, who I think has the most brilliant mind as far as innovation goes, too many options..........she will come up with something someday........CD's deflate method, I have not studied enough yet to determine it....Tntea's method is good for a couple days and double inclined and I like it because I am primarily a "doubles" player.  I would carry them for 7 days, too expensive.....

              Lucky does an awesome job in his posts, keeping the numbers at a playable level but boxed combos mostly.....

              Karamu's method works but too many numbers to play all states and boxed....

              Destiny's systems...........spotty and too many combos....the only one I really like is the 317 system........that gives me a straight at least once a week in Michigan...playing 10 combos or so.........the number likes to hang around the doubled number.

              Pair systems.........think about it.........10 combos a pair...3 pairs...30 combos..way too expensive.

              Now MGLSR has a great system................heck he has been posting Kentucky, Tennessee and Michigan with great success, winning almost everyday........I have watched his posts........no one even responds to him.........I have no idea why....there are alot of numbers but the clue is the winning number is there........if something matches your picks, jump on it.......he just needs to tweak it a bit to get the numbers down......he is getting no response from the Tennessee-Kentucky people so he told me last night, he is thinking about not posting the numbers....hey, I told him come on over to Michigan thread, post there......we love help. Tea, use your own system to match his numbers, and you are smooth sailing.

              Jap, for some reason, I never understood your system.

              Chevelle's.........spotty...runs hot and cold.  But one winning digit is usually in there so someone can actually probably get a key digit out of it.

              I like WinD's system of the 3 out at the same time........read about it in lottery systems.........I won 3 states last night.......I use versabet......got the key numbers from his system............then I went to the versabet and converted to vtracs....and heck I think I played 8 numbers in 2 of the states and 10 numbers in the other one...boxed 2, straight on one...........in Florida, I was just a hair away from winning..just using the vtracs from versabet and using WinD's key number system...I went with doubles..557-577 and 576 came in...

              Lottaloot's system is awesome but she has not revealed it yet.  Hers shows the most promise, IMHO..........she is on to something, works hard at what she does, is humble about it, and probably out of anyone on here has the best chance of beating the lottery at it's own game.

              I wish EVERYONE would post how they come up with the numbers......if you are not winning a few times a week, post your system and maybe someone can "tweak" it where you can win more........we all "hide" our systems for whatever reason.  I would love to know "Maddog's" system....drooling at the mouth over that one.....lol....

              So let's see where this post leads us.  Thank you, tea for starting this post.....and I do thank all the people who posts their systems.....lots of numbers or not, they help us. 

               

              Jap, for some reason, I never understood your system.

              I really do not think many do.

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                Posted: August 22, 2005, 6:40 pm - IP Logged

                thanks for all the input on this post...  Todd probably had wished it was in the lottery system group..

                 

                We had many objective opinions here.. 

                 

                Now we need to see how we combine all this great information and put it to use for us.. Any suggestions???

                I have stumbled upon something new I am looking into.. Going to back test it and run a few days before sharing it.. Need to make sure I am not throwing in another fly by night method that will lead us to another system... that only produces too many combos...

                 

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                  Posted: August 22, 2005, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

                  On the subject of straight hits.

                  Sandy and the other person she mentioned is right about ascending order for straight picks.

                  I would like to add to that.
                  Ascending and decending order will hit on the overall average of 44% of the time.

                  I pulled N.Y. mid for comparison. The ones in red are ascending and decending

                  New York Midday Numbers Previous Lottery Results Draw Date  Results 
                  Mon, Aug 22, 2005 8-1-5
                  Sun, Aug 21, 2005 7-1-1
                  Sat, Aug 20, 2005 5-0-0
                  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 5-2-7
                  Thu, Aug 18, 2005 0-5-2
                  Wed, Aug 17, 2005 2-0-4
                  Tue, Aug 16, 2005 7-9-8
                  Mon, Aug 15, 2005 7-5-4
                  Sun, Aug 14, 2005 2-3-5
                  Sat, Aug 13, 2005 2-0-2
                  Fri, Aug 12, 2005 8-2-5
                  Thu, Aug 11, 2005 2-2-5
                  Wed, Aug 10, 2005 4-9-9
                  Tue, Aug 09, 2005 2-8-1
                  Mon, Aug 08, 2005 9-2-1
                  Sun, Aug 07, 2005 4-3-5
                  Sat, Aug 06, 2005 2-9-6
                  Fri, Aug 05, 2005 7-1-9
                  Thu, Aug 04, 2005 4-8-1
                  Wed, Aug 03, 2005 1-2-2
                  Tue, Aug 02, 2005 1-4-2
                  Mon, Aug 01, 2005 9-8-6
                  Sun, Jul 31, 2005 0-1-8
                  Sat, Jul 30, 2005 4-1-5
                  Fri, Jul 29, 2005 5-9-1
                  Thu, Jul 28, 2005 5-4-5
                  Wed, Jul 27, 2005 4-1-2
                  Tue, Jul 26, 2005 6-7-7
                  Mon, Jul 25, 2005 1-2-8
                  Sun, Jul 24, 2005 4-8-4

                  To learn how to use exact pairs for reference as I use in my blog description I would suggest doing this as a learning tool. This is how I learned to use reapeat exact pairs as reference.

                  Take your 1000 straight hit sheet. Go back at least one year. Use combined draws for mid and eve to start with. Separate draws later if you like. I personally like to use combined draws for this but thats me.
                  After you have gone back one year start dating your hits. As you keep entering look at your sheet for when the front pair the back pair and the split pair last hit. The more entries you make the more you will see whats happening. After you have filled in for the year just keep studying it until you are tuned into it.


                  000 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900
                  001 101 201 301 401 501 601 701 801 901
                  002 102 202 302 402 502 602 702 802 902
                  003 103 203 303 403 503 603 703 803 903
                  004 104 204 304 404 504 604 704 804 904
                  005 105 205 305 405 505 605 705 805 905
                  006 106 206 306 406 506 606 706 806 906
                  007 107 207 307 407 507 607 707 807 907
                  008 108 208 308 408 508 608 708 808 908
                  009 109 209 309 409 509 609 709 809 909


                  010 110 210 310 410 510 610 710 810 910
                  011 111 211 311 411 511 611 711 811 911
                  012 112 212 312 412 512 612 712 812 912
                  013 113 213 313 413 513 613 713 813 913
                  014 114 214 314 414 514 614 714 814 914
                  015 115 215 315 415 515 615 715 815 915
                  016 116 216 316 416 516 616 716 816 916
                  017 117 217 317 417 517 617 717 817 917
                  018 118 218 318 418 518 618 718 818 918
                  019 119 219 319 419 519 619 719 819 919


                  020 120 220 320 420 520 620 720 820 920
                  021 121 221 321 421 521 621 721 821 921
                  022 122 222 322 422 522 622 722 822 922
                  023 123 223 323 423 523 623 723 823 923
                  024 124 224 324 424 524 624 724 824 924
                  025 125 225 325 425 525 625 725 825 925
                  026 126 226 326 426 526 626 726 826 926
                  027 127 227 327 427 527 627 727 827 927
                  028 128 228 328 428 528 628 728 828 928
                  029 129 229 329 429 529 629 729 829 929


                  030 130 230 330 430 530 630 730 830 930
                  031 131 231 331 431 531 631 731 831 931
                  032 132 232 332 432 532 632 732 832 932
                  033 133 233 333 433 533 633 733 833 933
                  034 134 234 334 434 534 634 734 834 934
                  035 135 235 335 435 535 635 735 835 935
                  036 136 236 336 436 536 636 736 836 936
                  037 137 237 337 437 537 637 737 837 937
                  038 138 238 338 438 538 638 738 838 938
                  039 139 239 339 439 539 639 739 839 939


                  040 140 240 340 440 540 640 740 840 940
                  041 141 241 341 441 541 641 741 841 941
                  042 142 242 342 442 542 642 742 842 942
                  043 143 243 343 443 543 643 743 843 943
                  044 144 244 344 444 544 644 744 844 944
                  045 145 245 345 445 545 645 745 845 945
                  046 146 246 346 446 546 646 746 846 949
                  047 147 247 347 447 547 647 747 847 947
                  048 148 248 348 448 548 648 748 848 948
                  049 149 249 349 449 549 649 749 849 949


                  050 150 250 350 450 550 650 750 850 950
                  051 151 251 351 451 551 651 751 851 951
                  052 152 252 352 452 552 652 752 852 952
                  053 153 253 353 453 553 653 753 853 953
                  054 154 254 354 454 554 654 754 854 954
                  055 155 255 355 455 555 655 755 855 955
                  056 156 256 356 456 556 656 756 856 956
                  057 157 257 357 457 557 657 757 857 957
                  058 158 258 358 458 558 658 758 858 958
                  059 159 259 359 459 559 659 759 859 959


                  060 160 260 360 460 560 660 760 860 960
                  061 161 261 361 461 561 661 761 861 961
                  062 162 262 362 462 562 662 752 862 962
                  063 163 263 363 463 563 663 763 863 963
                  064 164 264 364 464 564 664 764 864 964
                  065 165 265 365 465 565 665 765 865 965
                  066 166 266 366 466 566 666 766 866 966
                  067 167 267 367 467 567 667 767 867 967
                  068 168 268 368 468 568 668 768 868 968
                  069 169 269 369 469 569 669 769 869 969


                  070 170 270 370 470 570 670 770 870 970
                  071 171 271 371 471 571 671 771 871 971
                  072 172 272 372 472 572 672 772 872 972
                  073 173 273 373 473 573 673 773 873 973
                  074 174 274 374 474 574 674 774 874 974
                  075 175 275 375 475 575 675 775 875 975
                  076 176 276 376 476 576 676 776 876 976
                  077 177 277 377 477 577 677 777 877 977
                  078 178 278 378 478 578 678 778 878 978
                  079 179 279 379 479 579 679 779 879 979


                  080 180 280 380 480 580 680 780 880 980
                  081 181 281 381 481 581 681 781 881 981
                  082 182 282 382 482 582 682 782 882 982
                  083 183 283 383 483 583 683 783 883 983
                  084 184 284 384 484 584 684 784 884 984
                  085 185 285 385 485 585 685 785 885 985
                  086 186 286 386 486 586 686 786 886 986
                  087 187 287 387 487 587 687 787 887 987
                  088 188 288 388 488 588 688 788 888 988
                  089 189 289 389 489 589 689 789 889 989


                  090 190 290 390 490 590 690 790 890 990
                  091 191 291 391 491 591 691 791 891 991
                  092 192 292 392 492 592 692 792 892 992
                  093 193 293 393 493 593 693 793 893 993
                  094 194 294 394 494 594 694 794 894 994
                  095 195 295 395 496 595 695 795 895 995
                  096 196 296 396 496 596 696 796 896 996
                  097 197 297 397 497 597 697 797 897 997
                  098 198 298 398 498 598 698 798 898 998
                  099 199 299 399 499 599 699 799 899 999

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                    Thanks for Sharing this with the group...  I am going to check out TN and TX to see how this works..

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                      TNTEA,

                      Thanks sooo much in saying ,what I have been thinking to myself!!! Too many variables with key digits and pairs...that you could spend a fortune ....and with all the brain power we have on this site, it is absurd that there is not a simpler way of trapping these numbers, that we love to hate , ...or hate to love. That is the reason I have just been lurking on the sidelines and should have said out loud what you did...but you carry a little more weight than I....so maybe we can all bring something to the table and at least hit a str number every now and then ..but more importantly.....reduce the amount of numbers being thrown around...just way too many...thanks again and lets all put our collective heads together and come up with a solution to reduce our bets.

                      your pal,

                      VAL 

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                        You said it Val.

                        There is no reason why we can't all put our heads together and bring the lottery commissioners to there knees.Cheers

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                          Well Team.. What are we going to do now? Where do we go?  I am willing to follow any lead others agree upon...

                           

                           

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                            Well Team.. What are we going to do now? Where do we go?  I am willing to follow any lead others agree upon...

                             

                             

                            Find the system that creates the least amount of numbers.

                            I will start with this one. Check it out in your state.

                            The 5 hot digits or the 5 cold digits.
                            how often do they hit from each group in your state.
                            5 digits will give you 10 combos on each side. hot or cold.
                            will not give you doubles but a start point on just a few.
                            I use either ten draw count or the twenty draw count. use the draw count you want.

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                              Well Team.. What are we going to do now? Where do we go?  I am willing to follow any lead others agree upon...

                               

                               

                              Find the system that creates the least amount of numbers.

                              I will start with this one. Check it out in your state.

                              The 5 hot digits or the 5 cold digits.
                              how often do they hit from each group in your state.
                              5 digits will give you 10 combos on each side. hot or cold.
                              will not give you doubles but a start point on just a few.
                              I use either ten draw count or the twenty draw count. use the draw count you want.

                              I had seen a post made by someone can not remember who but the player only used 4 digits to create plays. That is only 4 combos to play.
                              They made one post about it. If I remember correctly someone made a comment something like[ how do you expect to hit with only 4 numbers].
                              Have not seen them since unless I missed another post by them.

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