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• cps10

  

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  CD - you are very welcome. Random numbers might work just as well, you could be right. I will investigate further. I am next going to test the dependency on the next drawing, meaning I will take a drawing and its number, divide up as Cashman does, and if it wins the next day, great. If it doesn't, I will take that drawing and divide IT up and play the next day. That will allow me to see if random numbers might be better.

  Best,

  cps10
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  Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on January 31, 2006

  CD - you are very welcome. Random numbers might work just as well, you could be right. I will investigate further. I am next going to test the dependency on the next drawing, meaning I will take a drawing and its number, divide up as Cashman does, and if it wins the next day, great. If it doesn't, I will take that drawing and divide IT up and play the next day. That will allow me to see if random numbers might be better.

  Best,

  cps10

  I'm slowly becoming a believer of picking a set of numbers using whatever method one chooses and then stick with that same set for a period of time ... like a few days or a week at most.  The reason for this is obvious.  It is the same principle that people use when they post "all states" on the prediction page ... it has to hit somewhere sometime!!  If you change your numbers every draw, in theory, you could ALWAYS miss!  The only thing I don't like about keeping the same set of numbers is that I like to look at each draw and then the history of that draw to determine if I think doubles or triples are due.  But, I'm inclined to stop trying to guess the doubles and triples and just play a set of numbers for a period of time.

   
• cps10

  

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  CD - agreed. I am also a believer that if you keep playing the same numbers, one will eventually turn up.

  Can anyone tell me how many combinations there are if you are using only 5 numbers? For instance, if you are using all 10 numbers, then you have 1000 combos:

  10 x 10 x 10

  But if you use 5 numbers, is that 5 x 5 x 5 = 125?
• cps10

  

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  If you are just using singles, then it would be:

  5 x 4 x 3 = 60?
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  CPS, you are right for a straight, but I play for a box, so just a 5-digit wheel would be 10 non-doubles and 20 doubles.

   
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  In a pick3 if you wheel five numbers you will have 125 combinations.

  1: 111
  2: 112
  3: 113
  4: 114
  5: 115
  6: 121
  7: 122
  8: 123
  9: 124
  10: 125
  11: 131
  12: 132
  13: 133
  14: 134
  15: 135
  16: 141
  17: 142
  18: 143
  19: 144
  20: 145
  21: 151
  22: 152
  23: 153
  24: 154
  25: 155
  26: 211
  27: 212
  28: 213
  29: 214
  30: 215
  31: 221
  32: 222
  33: 223
  34: 224
  35: 225
  36: 231
  37: 232
  38: 233
  39: 234
  40: 235
  41: 241
  42: 242
  43: 243
  44: 244
  45: 245
  46: 251
  47: 252
  48: 253
  49: 254
  50: 255
  51: 311
  52: 312
  53: 313
  54: 314
  55: 315
  56: 321
  57: 322
  58: 323
  59: 324
  60: 325
  61: 331
  62: 332
  63: 333
  64: 334
  65: 335
  66: 341
  67: 342
  68: 343
  69: 344
  70: 345
  71: 351
  72: 352
  73: 353
  74: 354
  75: 355
  76: 411
  77: 412
  78: 413
  79: 414
  80: 415
  81: 421
  82: 422
  83: 423
  84: 424
  85: 425
  86: 431
  87: 432
  88: 433
  89: 434
  90: 435
  91: 441
  92: 442
  93: 443
  94: 444
  95: 445
  96: 451
  97: 452
  98: 453
  99: 454
  100: 455
  101: 511
  102: 512
  103: 513
  104: 514
  105: 515
  106: 521
  107: 522
  108: 523
  109: 524
  110: 525
  111: 531
  112: 532
  113: 533
  114: 534
  115: 535
  116: 541
  117: 542
  118: 543
  119: 544
  120: 545
  121: 551
  122: 552
  123: 553
  124: 554
  125: 555

  If you do the same for a pick4 then it 625 combinations.
  

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• cps10

  

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  Okay, so a boxed 5-wheeler is 10 doubles, 30 singles, correct?

  What about a boxed 6-wheeler or a 7-wheeler boxed?

  Obviously I want to avoid the triples...
• cps10

  

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  Man I am flustered...what I meant was for a boxed 5 wheeler we have 20 doubles, 10 singles...sheesh!

  Thanks RJ and CD.
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  If you exclude doubles and triples and only play box then for a pick3 there are only 10 combinations.

  1: 123
  2: 124
  3: 125
  4: 134
  5: 135
  6: 145
  7: 234
  8: 235
  9: 245
  10: 345
  
  For a pick4 the same conditions would be 625 combinations. 

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• RJOh

  

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  If you can get your hand on a copy of the old Maybelle "QuikWheel" program, it will print out all your choices.  Good luck to you. 

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• cps10

  

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  Thanks RJOh - I was just trying to figure out how many there were of each, not necessarily what they were. If this one experiment works, then I will have to try and do that.

  Whereabouts in Ohio are you? I am in Springfield an awful lot.
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  I'm in Mansfield an awful lot.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
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  My wife took a class at Brouhard Jewelry School in Mansfield.
• cps10

  

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  Found some good info on this:

  https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/119279

  This gives combos for boxed wheels using 5, 6, 7 numbers, courtesy of LANTERN

  5 numbers yields 20 Doubles, 10 Singles, 5 Triples

  6 numbers yields 30 Doubles, 20 Singles, 6 Triples

  7 numbers yields 42 Doubles, 35 Singles, 7 Triples

  Very useful especially for this 12 +/- Discussion

  By the way, the way I did this with the 40 combos finally crapped out, so I am going back to the drawing board with this very concept, and look at it the way that Pac looked at it by taking the pairs that were generated and wheeling the output of the 12 pluses and minuses.
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  Quote: Originally posted by Tenaj on January 31, 2006

  Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on January 30, 2006

  Lottery Math
  
  Numbers wrap instead of going above 9 or below 0, and no carries to next position.
  
  4-5=9
  
  9+4=3
  

   Raven.  I was wondering if he used the "Egyptian method" (Lottery Math- don't carry)  3 digit numbers do wrap instead of going above 9 or below 0 (000-999) mirrors on the 5th and return back to itself of the 11th. 

  Cashman's workout is a shortcut to the rundown 123 plus minus system and what a clever tool it is.

  For those folks who either don't understand how it works or it's just too tedious for them to rundown a number.  The reason the number 12 is used is because a number returns to itself on the 11th rundown.  It's ready made and all the numbers are randown in Prof. Hitt's rundown book.  Cashman's shortcut beams on the most likely hits.  It's nothing new - been used for generations.lol

  plus  minus 

  785  785

  674  808

  563  921

  452  044

  341  167

  230  280 - Mirrors

  129  303

  018  426

  907  549

  896  662

  785 785

  Hey guys!!

   

  I'll be able to post maybe once in a while!  Didn't think I could, but, here I am!!  Maybe once a week, once every 2-3 weeks....

   

  I'll try to post some numbers when I can.  I have about 15 minutes of free time right now.

   

  Just thought I'd post here.  Although my method of using #12 as a "power" number may seem like something that was used before, it has nothing to do with what Tenaj described above which has been used for generations.  #12 is only one of the many "power" numbers, and, using the "power" #12, in the manner I prescribed for this system is only a small stepping stone on 12's complete usage.  And, playing pairs is only a small aspect of using my secret formula.

   

  I don't have much time, but, I'll try to post some numbers, but, I doubt I won't be able to untill mid february, as that's the next time I'll have time like this. 

   

  Also, let me point out a few things about the system I posted here....

   

  Just adding and subtracting 12 alone will not do.  You have learn the art of "mixing".

   

  Say, you do the +12 and -12 formula, and you get the number 754 from your "mixing", but, the number 753 comes up.  Well, if you knew about the power of "mixing", you'd know that 754, also equals 753, or 755.  More than not, it also equals 704, or, 743.  Etc.

   

  I will let you guys know that, the biggest secret in the lottery is using more than one "formula" at once (using them as ways to "check" each other as well), using other states' numbers as "signals" to predict specific states,  and realizing that "nature" and "game mechanics" will no matter what influence your selections in a certain why (which is why I reccommend "mixing").

  Anyway, I have to run guys, I'll be back as soon as I can!