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# Ok here is what I promised. :)

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The Carolinas - Charlotte
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CD - you are very welcome. Random numbers might work just as well, you could be right. I will investigate further. I am next going to test the dependency on the next drawing, meaning I will take a drawing and its number, divide up as Cashman does, and if it wins the next day, great. If it doesn't, I will take that drawing and divide IT up and play the next day. That will allow me to see if random numbers might be better.

Best,

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CD - you are very welcome. Random numbers might work just as well, you could be right. I will investigate further. I am next going to test the dependency on the next drawing, meaning I will take a drawing and its number, divide up as Cashman does, and if it wins the next day, great. If it doesn't, I will take that drawing and divide IT up and play the next day. That will allow me to see if random numbers might be better.

Best,

cps10

I'm slowly becoming a believer of picking a set of numbers using whatever method one chooses and then stick with that same set for a period of time ... like a few days or a week at most.  The reason for this is obvious.  It is the same principle that people use when they post "all states" on the prediction page ... it has to hit somewhere sometime!!  If you change your numbers every draw, in theory, you could ALWAYS miss!  The only thing I don't like about keeping the same set of numbers is that I like to look at each draw and then the history of that draw to determine if I think doubles or triples are due.  But, I'm inclined to stop trying to guess the doubles and triples and just play a set of numbers for a period of time.

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CD - agreed. I am also a believer that if you keep playing the same numbers, one will eventually turn up.

Can anyone tell me how many combinations there are if you are using only 5 numbers? For instance, if you are using all 10 numbers, then you have 1000 combos:

10 x 10 x 10

But if you use 5 numbers, is that 5 x 5 x 5 = 125?

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If you are just using singles, then it would be:

5 x 4 x 3 = 60?

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CPS, you are right for a straight, but I play for a box, so just a 5-digit wheel would be 10 non-doubles and 20 doubles.

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In a pick3 if you wheel five numbers you will have 125 combinations.

1: 111
2: 112
3: 113
4: 114
5: 115
6: 121
7: 122
8: 123
9: 124
10: 125
11: 131
12: 132
13: 133
14: 134
15: 135
16: 141
17: 142
18: 143
19: 144
20: 145
21: 151
22: 152
23: 153
24: 154
25: 155
26: 211
27: 212
28: 213
29: 214
30: 215
31: 221
32: 222
33: 223
34: 224
35: 225
36: 231
37: 232
38: 233
39: 234
40: 235
41: 241
42: 242
43: 243
44: 244
45: 245
46: 251
47: 252
48: 253
49: 254
50: 255
51: 311
52: 312
53: 313
54: 314
55: 315
56: 321
57: 322
58: 323
59: 324
60: 325
61: 331
62: 332
63: 333
64: 334
65: 335
66: 341
67: 342
68: 343
69: 344
70: 345
71: 351
72: 352
73: 353
74: 354
75: 355
76: 411
77: 412
78: 413
79: 414
80: 415
81: 421
82: 422
83: 423
84: 424
85: 425
86: 431
87: 432
88: 433
89: 434
90: 435
91: 441
92: 442
93: 443
94: 444
95: 445
96: 451
97: 452
98: 453
99: 454
100: 455
101: 511
102: 512
103: 513
104: 514
105: 515
106: 521
107: 522
108: 523
109: 524
110: 525
111: 531
112: 532
113: 533
114: 534
115: 535
116: 541
117: 542
118: 543
119: 544
120: 545
121: 551
122: 552
123: 553
124: 554
125: 555

If you do the same for a pick4 then it 625 combinations.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Okay, so a boxed 5-wheeler is 10 doubles, 30 singles, correct?

What about a boxed 6-wheeler or a 7-wheeler boxed?

Obviously I want to avoid the triples...

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Man I am flustered...what I meant was for a boxed 5 wheeler we have 20 doubles, 10 singles...sheesh!

Thanks RJ and CD.

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If you exclude doubles and triples and only play box then for a pick3 there are only 10 combinations.

1: 123
2: 124
3: 125
4: 134
5: 135
6: 145
7: 234
8: 235
9: 245
10: 345

For a pick4 the same conditions would be 625 combinations.

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If you can get your hand on a copy of the old Maybelle "QuikWheel" program, it will print out all your choices.  Good luck to you.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Thanks RJOh - I was just trying to figure out how many there were of each, not necessarily what they were. If this one experiment works, then I will have to try and do that.

Whereabouts in Ohio are you? I am in Springfield an awful lot.

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I'm in Mansfield an awful lot.

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My wife took a class at Brouhard Jewelry School in Mansfield.

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Found some good info on this:

This gives combos for boxed wheels using 5, 6, 7 numbers, courtesy of LANTERN

5 numbers yields 20 Doubles, 10 Singles, 5 Triples

6 numbers yields 30 Doubles, 20 Singles, 6 Triples

7 numbers yields 42 Doubles, 35 Singles, 7 Triples

Very useful especially for this 12 +/- Discussion

By the way, the way I did this with the 40 combos finally crapped out, so I am going back to the drawing board with this very concept, and look at it the way that Pac looked at it by taking the pairs that were generated and wheeling the output of the 12 pluses and minuses.

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Lottery Math

Numbers wrap instead of going above 9 or below 0, and no carries to next position.

4-5=9

9+4=3

Raven.  I was wondering if he used the "Egyptian method" (Lottery Math- don't carry)  3 digit numbers do wrap instead of going above 9 or below 0 (000-999) mirrors on the 5th and return back to itself of the 11th.

Cashman's workout is a shortcut to the rundown 123 plus minus system and what a clever tool it is.

For those folks who either don't understand how it works or it's just too tedious for them to rundown a number.  The reason the number 12 is used is because a number returns to itself on the 11th rundown.  It's ready made and all the numbers are randown in Prof. Hitt's rundown book.  Cashman's shortcut beams on the most likely hits.  It's nothing new - been used for generations.lol

plus  minus

785  785

674  808

563  921

452  044

341  167

230  280 - Mirrors

129  303

018  426

907  549

896  662

785 785

Hey guys!!

I'll be able to post maybe once in a while!  Didn't think I could, but, here I am!!  Maybe once a week, once every 2-3 weeks....

I'll try to post some numbers when I can.  I have about 15 minutes of free time right now.

Just thought I'd post here.  Although my method of using #12 as a "power" number may seem like something that was used before, it has nothing to do with what Tenaj described above which has been used for generations.  #12 is only one of the many "power" numbers, and, using the "power" #12, in the manner I prescribed for this system is only a small stepping stone on 12's complete usage.  And, playing pairs is only a small aspect of using my secret formula.

I don't have much time, but, I'll try to post some numbers, but, I doubt I won't be able to untill mid february, as that's the next time I'll have time like this.

Also, let me point out a few things about the system I posted here....

Just adding and subtracting 12 alone will not do.  You have learn the art of "mixing".

Say, you do the +12 and -12 formula, and you get the number 754 from your "mixing", but, the number 753 comes up.  Well, if you knew about the power of "mixing", you'd know that 754, also equals 753, or 755.  More than not, it also equals 704, or, 743.  Etc.

I will let you guys know that, the biggest secret in the lottery is using more than one "formula" at once (using them as ways to "check" each other as well), using other states' numbers as "signals" to predict specific states,  and realizing that "nature" and "game mechanics" will no matter what influence your selections in a certain why (which is why I reccommend "mixing").

Anyway, I have to run guys, I'll be back as soon as I can!

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