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Posted: April 3, 2006, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

Clipper, BA

Regardless I think we are onto something. I was looking at repeats kind of eyeballing them for some states. But not really doing it in depth. I think even if you include repeat digits, you are paring down the combinations to a smaller number. How small, I will investigate that a little further too. I also want to take a look at how many combinations would be included with just the numbers 6-9 since they make up the majority of the 68 #s.

I am also wondering if Sums 11-20 would be a good thing for seeing doubles. Meaning, if doubles were out a while on these sums, would it make sense to play them as well, separate from the singles, with a progression?

AND...would the 68#s be something that could be applied to the Pick-4 game (i.e.., 188#s for Pick-4, just as an example)?

Some things to think about. Clipper - I think you would be the one most suited for the Pick-4 analysis since you came up with this 68# set?

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    I just noticed that only 2 of these 68 did NOT contain numbers 6-9. Wow. I figured it would be high, but not that high.

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      Doubles combinations for 11-20 (w/o Pures):

      227 229

      336 338

      443 445 447 449

      552 554 556 558

      661 663 665 667

      770 772 774 776

      881 883

      990 992

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        Posted: April 3, 2006, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

        It's nice to see you back posting again Clipper! Welcome back!

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          Doubles combinations for 11-20 (w/o Pures):

          227 229

          336 338

          443 445 447 449

          552 554 556 558

          661 663 665 667

          770 772 774 776

          881 883

          990 992

          Very useful info,Thanks cps10

            especially during end,middle

            beginning of the month

           

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            My pleasure. I think we could almost use this info to our advantage as well. When the singles aren't hitting the doubles will be, so we could profit from both. The best thing about it is that the skips in the singles should not overlap with the doubles except in perhaps rare circumstances. What do you think?

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              Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

              Thanks inittowin....dont know how often I can be here since working fulltime but shall try to check in on days off.  Working 10 hr days doesnt leave me much time to do anything but eat, sleep and work lol

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                Thanks inittowin....dont know how often I can be here since working fulltime but shall try to check in on days off.  Working 10 hr days doesnt leave me much time to do anything but eat, sleep and work lol

                I know how that is...I have been very fortunate to be able to do as much with this as I have...but it's a good hobby to be sure. Keep in touch Clip.

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                  My pleasure. I think we could almost use this info to our advantage as well. When the singles aren't hitting the doubles will be, so we could profit from both. The best thing about it is that the skips in the singles should not overlap with the doubles except in perhaps rare circumstances. What do you think?

                  If we can get skip avg.

                  of those doubles you posted(Paurths may input) we'll

                  be watching these focus groups

                  (how can we not)

                  Already 344 is Laverne's Gem,

                  166,227,772,883,338,449

                  are false triples these are

                  potent doubles

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                    cp - we dont have Pick 4 here in Texas so I've never tracked those kind of games.  If I did though what I would do is split the 4 digits into front pair/back pair and put a "constant 0" with them in my software and treat them like 2 Pick 3 games.  You could then go by the pair Sum and see what the range is there.

                     I would expect a lot of Doubles in this procedure since the combinations would be limited.

                    Without really looking into the Pick 4 game, this would be the way I would start tracking.

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                      I think paurths is the man for that job indeed. I am working manually on the singles and their skip avg. He can do the doubles average, or I can start on that next, but since there are only 24 combos for that range, you are looking at a $75 return on a $6 investment, so you have plenty of draws available as a buffer before having to progress your bet.

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                        Yeah, that is indeed an interesting scenario. so we would do a count of front pairs, and a count of back pairs, take the highest several and combine them somehow?

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                          CP - think I would first look at the repeat rate according to each pair.  You know there will always be 1 digit repeat (the constant "0")  there will only be 10 digits per position  for 2nd and 3rd position.  I imagine PURE combinations would be higher in additon to Doubles appearing in this tracking so you might not be able to narrow combinations down to your advantage like in the Pick 3.

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                            The av. skip for those doubles is between 12 and 17 draws.
                            Most is 13 draws.
                            That is boxed.

                            For straight, the average is between 40 and 50 draws.

                            Some have very high or very low averages
                            CA mid: average of 60
                            CT mid: average skip of 33

                            I'll see for all the states tonight.

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                              That is great info paurths. Is that for that specific 24 combos that I put on the board earlier?

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