Welcome Guest
You last visited January 21, 2017, 2:30 am
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

# Somebody crack the champagne

Topic closed. 143 replies. Last post 11 years ago by Clipper.

 Page 8 of 10
The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

Clipper, BA

Regardless I think we are onto something. I was looking at repeats kind of eyeballing them for some states. But not really doing it in depth. I think even if you include repeat digits, you are paring down the combinations to a smaller number. How small, I will investigate that a little further too. I also want to take a look at how many combinations would be included with just the numbers 6-9 since they make up the majority of the 68 #s.

I am also wondering if Sums 11-20 would be a good thing for seeing doubles. Meaning, if doubles were out a while on these sums, would it make sense to play them as well, separate from the singles, with a progression?

AND...would the 68#s be something that could be applied to the Pick-4 game (i.e.., 188#s for Pick-4, just as an example)?

Some things to think about. Clipper - I think you would be the one most suited for the Pick-4 analysis since you came up with this 68# set?

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 1:52 pm - IP Logged

I just noticed that only 2 of these 68 did NOT contain numbers 6-9. Wow. I figured it would be high, but not that high.

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

Doubles combinations for 11-20 (w/o Pures):

227 229

336 338

443 445 447 449

552 554 556 558

661 663 665 667

770 772 774 776

881 883

990 992

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

If you don't like it, spit it out!
United States
Member #4756
May 23, 2004
3435 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

It's nice to see you back posting again Clipper! Welcome back!

Wyncote,Pa
United States
Member #3206
January 3, 2004
61447 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

Doubles combinations for 11-20 (w/o Pures):

227 229

336 338

443 445 447 449

552 554 556 558

661 663 665 667

770 772 774 776

881 883

990 992

Very useful info,Thanks cps10

especially during end,middle

beginning of the month

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

BA

My pleasure. I think we could almost use this info to our advantage as well. When the singles aren't hitting the doubles will be, so we could profit from both. The best thing about it is that the skips in the singles should not overlap with the doubles except in perhaps rare circumstances. What do you think?

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

Texas
United States
Member #1477
May 7, 2003
2311 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

Thanks inittowin....dont know how often I can be here since working fulltime but shall try to check in on days off.  Working 10 hr days doesnt leave me much time to do anything but eat, sleep and work lol

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:27 pm - IP Logged

Thanks inittowin....dont know how often I can be here since working fulltime but shall try to check in on days off.  Working 10 hr days doesnt leave me much time to do anything but eat, sleep and work lol

I know how that is...I have been very fortunate to be able to do as much with this as I have...but it's a good hobby to be sure. Keep in touch Clip.

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

Wyncote,Pa
United States
Member #3206
January 3, 2004
61447 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:31 pm - IP Logged

BA

My pleasure. I think we could almost use this info to our advantage as well. When the singles aren't hitting the doubles will be, so we could profit from both. The best thing about it is that the skips in the singles should not overlap with the doubles except in perhaps rare circumstances. What do you think?

If we can get skip avg.

of those doubles you posted(Paurths may input) we'll

be watching these focus groups

(how can we not)

166,227,772,883,338,449

are false triples these are

potent doubles

Texas
United States
Member #1477
May 7, 2003
2311 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

cp - we dont have Pick 4 here in Texas so I've never tracked those kind of games.  If I did though what I would do is split the 4 digits into front pair/back pair and put a "constant 0" with them in my software and treat them like 2 Pick 3 games.  You could then go by the pair Sum and see what the range is there.

I would expect a lot of Doubles in this procedure since the combinations would be limited.

Without really looking into the Pick 4 game, this would be the way I would start tracking.

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

BA

I think paurths is the man for that job indeed. I am working manually on the singles and their skip avg. He can do the doubles average, or I can start on that next, but since there are only 24 combos for that range, you are looking at a \$75 return on a \$6 investment, so you have plenty of draws available as a buffer before having to progress your bet.

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:36 pm - IP Logged

Clipper

Yeah, that is indeed an interesting scenario. so we would do a count of front pairs, and a count of back pairs, take the highest several and combine them somehow?

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

Texas
United States
Member #1477
May 7, 2003
2311 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

CP - think I would first look at the repeat rate according to each pair.  You know there will always be 1 digit repeat (the constant "0")  there will only be 10 digits per position  for 2nd and 3rd position.  I imagine PURE combinations would be higher in additon to Doubles appearing in this tracking so you might not be able to narrow combinations down to your advantage like in the Pick 3.

Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium
Belgium
Member #19287
July 29, 2005
2254 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 3:55 pm - IP Logged

The av. skip for those doubles is between 12 and 17 draws.
Most is 13 draws.
That is boxed.

For straight, the average is between 40 and 50 draws.

Some have very high or very low averages
CA mid: average of 60
CT mid: average skip of 33

I'll see for all the states tonight.

The Carolinas - Charlotte
United States
Member #21627
September 12, 2005
4138 Posts
Offline
 Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

That is great info paurths. Is that for that specific 24 combos that I put on the board earlier?

The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:

 Page 8 of 10