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Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:07 pm - IP Logged

Also what the max skip is for all states too for those combos...thanks paurths!

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    That is great info paurths. Is that for that specific 24 combos that I put on the board earlier?

    it is for these:

    227 229

    336 338

    443 445 447 449

    552 554 556 558

    661 663 665 667

    770 772 774 776

    881 883

    990 992

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      Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

      Also what the max skip is for all states too for those combos...thanks paurths!

      GA mid: 276 draws
      ID: 300

      ...

      makes sense, going beyond 8 times the average skip the most rare thing in pick3, so it seems.
      I will have to make the time one of these days to find out if there's any truth in what i read somewhere else earlier: the game "turns" after 7600 draws (or something like that), then all the numbers have come out.

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        Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:41 pm - IP Logged

        wow...that is a long time for one of those combos!

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          Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:42 pm - IP Logged

          so that is average skip for all states around 12-17? that still doesn't exclude the high balls...

          what is the max skip all states for the original 68?

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            Posted: April 3, 2006, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

            wow...that is a long time for one of those combos!

            Oops, my mistake,

            that is the highest for straight...

            Box:
            ID: 111 draws
            GA mid: 139 draws

            btw, don't focus too much on the highest skips ever.
            That are the rare ones.
            When playing 3 or more states that have them missing for at least 3 times the average, one of them will hit within reasonable time.

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              Posted: April 3, 2006, 5:12 pm - IP Logged

              The av. skip for those doubles is between 12 and 17 draws.
              Most is 13 draws.
              That is boxed.

              For straight, the average is between 40 and 50 draws.

              Some have very high or very low averages
              CA mid: average of 60
              CT mid: average skip of 33

              I'll see for all the states tonight.

              Its like the trough digits combo

              0,1,8,9- these

              show 12-18 draws when

              they don't I look for triples

              sometimes false triple show

              instead.The 1-9-8 troughs

              were out during

              Solaris-ninja in Pa. nite 3/24-3/31

              388 false triple came

              So there is a link between

              the mirror double selections

              and the absence of the all

              trough combo.

               

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                Posted: April 3, 2006, 6:13 pm - IP Logged

                BA

                I have to agree with you on that with the false triple. I have seen that a few times in recent memory.

                 

                paurths - that's good to know. The max boxed is still within reasonable progression territory such that you aren't eating up your bankroll too quickly.

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                  Posted: April 4, 2006, 1:06 am - IP Logged

                  Next thing to do is

                  to convert the list into vtrac

                  for analysis

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                    Posted: April 4, 2006, 2:46 am - IP Logged

                    Some probability figures for your information:

                    p of 1 number appearing within 1 draw = 28.1%
                    p of 1 number appearing within 5 draws = 80.78%
                    p of 1 number appearing within 9 draws = 95%
                    p of 1 number appearing within 14 draws = 99% (3 Standard Deviations)
                    p of 1 number appearing within 21 draws = 99.9% (~3.1+ Standard Deviations)

                    p=95% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 2.8 draws.
                    p=99% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 4.3 draws.
                    p=99.9% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 6.5 draws.


                    So if I have my probablity calculations correct BA, it looks like you would be right. Play only the combinations with one of the 3 missing digits from the previous 5 draws from the 68 original combos. Even playing all the combos, you wouldn't need much of a progression if it went to 8 draws, which it really isn't expected to go past 7 anyways.  So in essence most of the time you'll win on either the first or second bet and make money.  Also, if someone is going to use a progression, I would defiantely put a stop limit on your progression.  As to the most profitable stop limit.....I'm not sure yet, but it can definately be calculated. 

                    BTW, I also think that you could employ this strategy with any random 68 combos and get the same results. I could be wrong seeing as I haven't tested my theory, but I'm defiantely inclined to think that.

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                      Posted: April 4, 2006, 3:39 am - IP Logged

                      Some probability figures for your information:

                      p of 1 number appearing within 1 draw = 28.1%
                      p of 1 number appearing within 5 draws = 80.78%
                      p of 1 number appearing within 9 draws = 95%
                      p of 1 number appearing within 14 draws = 99% (3 Standard Deviations)
                      p of 1 number appearing within 21 draws = 99.9% (~3.1+ Standard Deviations)

                      p=95% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 2.8 draws.
                      p=99% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 4.3 draws.
                      p=99.9% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 6.5 draws.


                      So if I have my probablity calculations correct BA, it looks like you would be right. Play only the combinations with one of the 3 missing digits from the previous 5 draws from the 68 original combos. Even playing all the combos, you wouldn't need much of a progression if it went to 8 draws, which it really isn't expected to go past 7 anyways.  So in essence most of the time you'll win on either the first or second bet and make money.  Also, if someone is going to use a progression, I would defiantely put a stop limit on your progression.  As to the most profitable stop limit.....I'm not sure yet, but it can definately be calculated. 

                      BTW, I also think that you could employ this strategy with any random 68 combos and get the same results. I could be wrong seeing as I haven't tested my theory, but I'm defiantely inclined to think that.

                      Thank you Xavier

                      Your input will be studied, cherished and

                      enhanced with other findings

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                        Posted: April 4, 2006, 4:10 am - IP Logged

                        The sum 11-20 definite

                        winner within 7 days

                        However if one of the 3 missing digits from the previous 5 draws 

                        doubles I could still capture

                        the sum group 11-20.Example

                        if the 7 decides to drop,

                        it drops and doubles.. 77

                        770-771-773-774-775-776

                        still within 11-20 bracket.

                         

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                          As a safety net, the 3 missing digits from the previous 5 draws have sister numbers

                          (vtrac).

                          So if 1-5-9 were missing

                                  6-3-4 is also considered

                              to maintain a selection from

                              coming from Clipper's list.

                           

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                            Posted: April 4, 2006, 7:03 am - IP Logged

                            Thus I could use the 3 longest

                            out LDR sums.

                            Find longest out sums

                            and again find 3 Longest out LDRs excluding doubles(combos) from results.

                            The common results are used

                            with my key missing digit.

                             

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                              Some probability figures for your information:

                              p of 1 number appearing within 1 draw = 28.1%
                              p of 1 number appearing within 5 draws = 80.78%
                              p of 1 number appearing within 9 draws = 95%
                              p of 1 number appearing within 14 draws = 99% (3 Standard Deviations)
                              p of 1 number appearing within 21 draws = 99.9% (~3.1+ Standard Deviations)

                              p=95% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 2.8 draws.
                              p=99% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 4.3 draws.
                              p=99.9% that one of 3 numbers will appear within 6.5 draws.


                              So if I have my probablity calculations correct BA, it looks like you would be right. Play only the combinations with one of the 3 missing digits from the previous 5 draws from the 68 original combos. Even playing all the combos, you wouldn't need much of a progression if it went to 8 draws, which it really isn't expected to go past 7 anyways.  So in essence most of the time you'll win on either the first or second bet and make money.  Also, if someone is going to use a progression, I would defiantely put a stop limit on your progression.  As to the most profitable stop limit.....I'm not sure yet, but it can definately be calculated. 

                              BTW, I also think that you could employ this strategy with any random 68 combos and get the same results. I could be wrong seeing as I haven't tested my theory, but I'm defiantely inclined to think that.

                              xavier

                              I have the progression available if you are interested in seeing it and maybe proposing a stop limit. This is on using all 68 combinations at a $0.25 box bet, with a $37.50 return on a win.

                              As for the random 68 combos, it's possible, assuming they are just singles, and not doubles or triples. However, based on mathematics, 68 single combos SHOULD come out the same amount yet, we have focused on the sum digits that mathematically come out most. I think....lol

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