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Would you loan money to someone to gamble

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Would you Loan money to someone to gamble with?

Yes [ 3 ]  [4.17%]
NO [ 53 ]  [73.61%]
Yes, and it's between me and them [ 6 ]  [8.33%]
Never a borrower or Lender be [ 3 ]  [4.17%]
Yes, and they didn't pay it back [ 1 ]  [1.39%]
Yes, they had a sob story [ 1 ]  [1.39%]
Yes and they paid it back [ 5 ]  [6.94%]
Total Valid Votes [ 72 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 4 ]  

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Posted: September 24, 2006, 12:09 am - IP Logged

Tenaj, my vote is absolutely not. I wouldn't lend anyone any money to buy them lotto.

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    Posted: September 24, 2006, 1:32 am - IP Logged

    I'm a Leo and I don't lend out money to anyone.

     

    Sorry to say, (well, no, I'm NOT sorry to say), unless you have something in writing, you just GAVE someone a lot of money, you did not LOAN it to them.  If you knew they were gambling/playing the lottery, you can bet your arse 'it was understood' would NEVER come into play if your so-called 'friend' won the jackpot, you'd be SOL.

    My guess is you are mad at yourself because deep down inside you knew better.

     

    As far as the Vet bill goes, I hope everything is OK, I'd drain my 401K, I'd drain my IRA's, I'd sell my Mutual Funds, I'd get a second mortgage if I had to in order to save my pets, they mean more to me then life itself - almost.  It's pretty close.  I can't even imagine having to put one of my cats down. I dread the day, I almost hope they outlive me.

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      Posted: September 24, 2006, 2:43 am - IP Logged

      That really bites that they won't talk to you because you stopped being there bank. My eyes, they still owe you the money. They were suppose to pay it back and that's that. I had a co-worker who was having a hard time and we go through that. She needed money for gas and I filled her tank. I knew I wouldn't see the money so I didn't look for it back. Luckily she never asked for anything else. Sad thing is that she got a transfer to a better paying job(more than me) and it went to her head. She doesn't even talk to me anymore. She forgets it was only last year when she couldn't fill her gas tank to get to work and day care for her kid. I've really had to stop being generous because ppl A. don't pay the money back or B. Forget where they came from when they have some successes.

      I used to work at a dollar store and 2 women were outside sobbing...I mean really sobbing, that they had no way to get back to port huron because there was a leak in there pipeline so wheres everytime they tried to fill up the tank there was a slow leak.

      One of the 2 ladies played taht story out so well, that had I caught on to her scheme I wouldn't be mad at her at all...in fact, after the damage was done, I would have recommended she get into an acting career instead of conning people lol. She had the tears and everything.

      Anyway, at the end of the day, she only got me for like 6 or 7 bucks becuz I felt a little sry for them. I learned my lesson from this and I vow to never give people money I'm not sure is going to a good cause.

      Hope you learned your lesson, don't be so guillable. I'm betting that you knew what was going on, but you wanted to hold onto that persons friendship for the sake of their social presence.

      "The happiest moment of your life will be the moment it ends...thats because it doesn't end but goes on in ways so magnificent, so full of peace - wisdom - and joy, as to make it difficult to describe  and impossible for you to comprehend"

      God


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        Posted: September 24, 2006, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

        You expressed my feeling the best.

         

        I am not against gambling hell I do it for a living however, its my money not borrowed money to win or lose with.

         

        Never Borrow To Gamble With.

         

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          Posted: September 24, 2006, 4:19 pm - IP Logged

          Tenaj:

          You shouldn't feel badly about what you did. It was the recipient's actions, or the lack of them, that made you feel that knot in your stomach. Your heart was in the right place - you tried to help someone.

          There's an old saying that goes, "Do some people a favor and they'll never forgive you for it," but you can't hold yourself responsible for the things other people do to you. Many people will make the argument that, "You had it coming," but I don't see it that way. Would it have made you feel better if you'd loaned the money for a new dining table and were never repaid? The end result would be identical; you feel that someone has taken advantage of your good nature, but that's more indicative of their shortcomings and doesn't reflect on you.

          I've actually faced this situation, and a method I've found very effective is one I learned after reading The Godfather by Mario Puzo. The trick, according to Vito Corleone, is to "...never say "No" to your friends." It takes a little effort, a little time and trouble, but if you do it right, your friends will say "No" for you.

          Way back in the day, when I was still playing an honest Pick-4 game, a friend of mine asked me for a hundred dollars so he could play his numbers for the next few days. He assured me that anything he won he would split with me. I didn't have enough cash with me (that was the story, anyway), so I suggested he give me his numbers, and I would play them for him. You could almost see the flash as he suddenly remembered that someone owed him money, and so he wouldn't need to borrow mine after all.

          Write the money off. $450 isn't going to change your life, and allowing it to eat at you will only make you bitter. Call it a charitable contribution and just... let it go. Don't let it change who you are, and remember that those who are critical of your good deed were probably victimized by their "friends" at some point in the past (you'd be hard-pressed, I think, to find someone who hasn't been through this).

          Feel good about what you did, and pat yourself on the back. The fact that it didn't go as planned is not your responsibility; you cannot control what other people do or don't do.

          Just learn how not to say, "No."

          Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

          Jim

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            Posted: September 24, 2006, 4:44 pm - IP Logged

            I've loaned money to people before for all sorts of reasons as i had the money to loan. but after having been shafted so many times i haven't loaned much money to anyone anymore. Except maybe family members. I i rarely lent money to someone to gamble with unless that person didn't make enough money as for me to be concerned that he wouldn't be able to pay me back. In other words if the person borrowing money from me didn't have a job that paid well he wouldn't get a loan from me.

            only lend money to someone you know for sure has enough money to pay you back. If they don't have an income then the aren't able to pay off a loan. If they have an income but are always borrowing money then stay away from them there a bad risk. I've worked with lots of guys that got paid on Friday and were broke on Monday. Never loan money to these people unless you are there when they cash there check and are going to pay you back. Make that a stipulation before you give them a dime of your money.

            A person who has to borrow money to gamble with has a gambling problem stay clear of them.

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              Posted: September 24, 2006, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

              Since i was Diddled by several X friends which stopped talking to me after i loan them my money that did it for me folks,I will never ever lend any money out any more,i really don't care what a person does with the money they borrow it should be paid back,Sometimes Folks, people take KIndness for Weakness,Getting to the above about X Friends,i would have been their friend if they didnot reject me after the loan ,oh they were so nice until i loan them the Money ,Then Boom! It was like the Flip side ,They did not have time for me so that is water under the Bridge Now This is what i Do to solve all future Problems dealing with people wanting Loans
              When you come vist me i got a nice desk in a little perfect corner with a Telephone ,map and phone book ,if you need a loan it is already on the Lender's Page in the Book and i will nicely as your friend give you the map to find the Loan Provider ,you don't have to bring that map back,The End    Delores247

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                Posted: September 24, 2006, 5:22 pm - IP Logged

                Before I retired if money was being collected for a lottery pool at work that I was contributing to and a co-worker asked me for short loan to cover his share, I had no problem if I knew he would do the same for me, but we're only talking about a couple of dollars for a day or two at most.  I know from experience if anyone ask for more than a $5 loan they should be dealing a bank or one of those short term loan places in town and I tell them so.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Before I retired if money was being collected for a lottery pool at work that I was contributing to and a co-worker asked me for short loan to cover his share, I had no problem if I knew he would do the same for me, but we're only talking about a couple of dollars for a day or two at most.  I know from experience if anyone ask for more than a $5 loan they should be dealing a bank or one of those short term loan places in town and I tell them so.

                  ... Until the office pool hits, and the folks that are in it and paid have to decide if they want to dilute THEIR winnings even further....  Heck, I MYSELF would almost bet you that if that happened, you would absolutely be the odd man out.

                   

                  I think the Lottery that was on in Nebraska in February had a newbie in it that took the place of someone, and the one after that in St. Louis that hit had one or two new people that got in because one or two others were out sick, or something like that. Nobody 'covered' for them being out.

                   

                  There are three golden rules of life:  Death, Taxes, and trust nobody when it comes to money management such as this. 

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                    Posted: September 24, 2006, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

                    Heck no! I'd probably be asking to borrow from them first anyway!  Jack-in-the-Box

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                      Posted: September 24, 2006, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

                      I responded based solely on the generalized question and not based on the authors personal experience.

                      Its obvious that the question poll needed clarified with , "and the known associate will undoubtedly not pay you back,".

                       

                      Each situation is different , with character strengths needing to be wagered against the value of the concern.  I dont make blanket statements but rather consider the factors and persons needing the funds.

                       A guy I dated needed 50$ at a casino...he had a knack for knowing when a machine was hot. I spotted him the money and he won for 1 k! He graciously split it 50/50 with me. ANd he is a guy that wouldnt give to any charity, yet when it came to gaming winnings he always made sure to treat the loan person very kindly! He could have just as easily gave back the 50$ and been done with it, but he really did feel that it was my money and I deserved a little commission :)

                      A person has the right to say NO to loaning .When I loan out I ask myself :If I dont see this money again, will I be okay financially? If the answer is NO then i dont give.

                      ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

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                        Posted: September 24, 2006, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

                        I would never loan money for gambling. If they can't afford it on their own, then the last thing they need to be doing is gambling.

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                          A person has the right to say NO to loaning .When I loan out I ask myself :If I dont see this money again, will I be okay financially? If the answer is NO then i dont give.

                          The last time a person asked me for $50, I asked myself if he doesn't pay me back would I be financially OK and the answerer was Yes, but I also asked myself did I want this person and his needy friends hanging around me looking for a hand out and the answer was NO so I told him I wasn't a bank and didn't have money to make loans.  He was a relative of a friend and I didn't want him or his worthless friends to ever have a reason to come to my home again.  Some people think if you lend them money, you enjoy helping people with a sob story and don't really expect to be repaid, he was one of those or his relatives would have loaned him the money.

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                            Posted: September 25, 2006, 11:00 am - IP Logged

                            What?Would you loan money to someone to gamble with if they had a good sob story.  I loaned money to someone with a good sob story and when I quit loaning them money they quit talking to me.  Do I have the right to ask for that money back?  They said several times that when they got on their feet it will make them feel good to give it back and I told them it would make me feel good to accept it.

                            The first two times were gifts but it became a habit around the 16th of every month and they were broke until the 1st always asking for money to tie them over, and always had a hard luck story.  Am I wrong to ask for this money back, when I never asked for it back before.  (It was understood that it would be paid back when they were able) 

                            I feel they were only my friend because I gave them money.  They never did tell me why they quit talking to me, it happened when I didn't cough up any more money.  I had an $800 vet bill, my dog had heart worms and I couldn't give them money to gamble with.  Was I wrong for thinking of my pet before them.  Maybe that's what offended them, now that I think about it.

                            Am a just mad because they are not my friend anymore or does that not matter because they owe me money.  Don't they owe me money regardless of the feeling involved?  Now they are telling me that it was freely given. 

                            I loaned them the money that I used to place my own bets and many times I had to make deposits because I had given them half my money. They mentioned that someone else were giving them money to play pick 4s for them, making me think I wasn't the only person.

                            Whatever you guys say do, leave it alone, tell me how dumb I was, I'm just mad because they kicked me to the curve, whatever, I will take the advice.  I'm tired of tip toeing around them so I asked for the money back.

                            It was $450.

                            Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.----Jesus Christ

                            "Before you help someone, know who you are helping"----the wise man of God, Sirach

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                              Posted: September 25, 2006, 2:46 pm - IP Logged

                              SmileyThank you everyone for voting, and posting your opinions.  It's obvious that I was foolish to part with my money so easily to the this person.  I will not let this stop me from helping people who are truly needy and need my help.

                              The advice that I will take came from a person whom I had discussed this with when the person first stopped speaking to me.  This is the pm with their permission and their response to this thread.

                              Sorry you lost money. I think I know who didn't pay you back. After all, we briefly spoke about her. What struck me about you when you first corresponded with me, was that you honestly thought you had done something wrong to offend her when she initially had stopped speaking to you. I altruistically tried to tell you that you had not. I admired that your heart was that big, and that's a good thing.

                              I would say that person was a friend to you. But sometimes friendships are conditional and sometimes not. It all depends on the kind of quality you want in your frienships. You don't have to accept her brand of frienship. Your choice as to what caliber of frienship is most nuturing for you, and don't compromise that.

                              Janet,

                              you will get that money back in spades. Yes, ask for the money back once, and make it clear that you want it, bit if it doesn' come back, what can you do? Nothing. Just let it go, and hope that the person did use that money to help others. Wish her well, and be on your way. Or talk to them still, but now you would have known how far to trust her. 

                              Take care

                              takeemtothebank