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A profitable system is a cheating system. If you know what's coming up next then it's unfair to the other losers and those businesses running the games for profit. As least that's the impression I got from the judge remarks in the article https://www.lotterypost.com/news/148908.htm .
When you participate in a lottery or a casino game, the only gamblers in the games are the players. It's a profitable business for those running the games and the players are loser by design, some one have to provide the profits for the businesses and monies for the prizes for the few lucky winners.
If anyone ever come with a strategy to make playing any lottery game profitable then that game will end.
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Interesting Blackapple! I have not look at in this context. So you're taking the mirror combos with are at it's average hit ratio or beyond (due), then look for the most overdue mirror pair and play it with a higher weight to hit and give you even fewer combos to play. I will have to track, test and quantify that concept. It looks very feasible, Thanks for the response.
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Quote: Originally posted by WSN1 on Jan 13, 2007
Sweetie, I got to be honest, you are combining 3 completely different concepts together, vtracs, followers, and flip side #s. One can use all three together in a multiple of directions and never get a consistent profit. So, I ask what are the successful details. These examples just show relationships not consistent profits. As far as v-tracs and Tntea, I am still looking for the specific detailed application of the vtrac twist that will bring consistent profits or if you know them please share.
WSN1.. I listed the twist on the following page of this post.. Vtracs and OLD combined.. I have hit a straight this week in OK when playing the 10 number challenge .. (I forgot who posted that post..)
I don't go into a lot of detail of what I do , how I use my methods, or what profits are being made on this side now. In the past I caught a lot of flack from members when I tried helping. Even been accused of lying. It is so hard for some to accept truth so let it be..
I have listed a lot of what I do in my blog. If given my way, those would be deleted now. I have my thoughts there in private now, so I can refer back to different things I am trying with the pick 5. It is now my challenge.
Tntea, I am not clear on this post, however, I understood the previous post. I look forward to your additional updates and explanation samples you promised. Thanks
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Quote: Originally posted by WSN1 on Jan 15, 2007
Tntea, I am not clear on this post, however, I understood the previous post. I look forward to your additional updates and explanation samples you promised. Thanks
Were there a promise? I dont remember.. All of this is listed in my blog
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Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on Jan 15, 2007
WSN1
The max skip of the EEO in Arizona is 36 draws. Even online, if you waited until 8 draws out without a hit, you are looking at, progressively, nearly a $31,000 bankroll just to win $625. Now, that is probably not worth it. That is with $1 bets of course. Offline, this strategy would be impossible to use. A better strategy in my opinion would be to wait until any of these phenomenon are at least 3 times the mathematical average out. That would mean, you would start after the number of draws reaches 24 without a hit. This would entail a max bankroll of $2,375 for a $325 win, a little more manageable. The best strategy of all, though, in my opinion, would be to wait until the max, which for the EEO in AZ is 36 draws, then drill it at that time. There are so many filters that you could use, so many different groups of numbers to put together to make a filter, that you could literally find something every day to play in Arizona offline, and use a progression. In the software I use, I continually make up different groups of numbers, and grouping them together - some without rhyme or reason - and then run my stats program to find which ones are at max skip. Something every single day!
I agree cps10, you can get bit by the lagger. I like the approach. However, in your example, how did you get to bankroll of $2,375 for a $325 win. EEO in all positions = 375 combos right? I think Im missing something. Again, Max sKip is a sound approach for any day of week if managed well. I like it!!! Thanks, and it works offline, with progression. That's even more exciting!, Also, what programs are you using to make your filter grouping and generate your stats. I have always customised my excel spreadsheets, but I am thinking about going to Access to give me better coverage of managing my strategies. First, Ive got to learn Access. No, one program has ever given me what I wanted.
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Quote: Originally posted by tntea on Jan 15, 2007
WSN1.. I listed the twist on the following page of this post.. Vtracs and OLD combined.. I have hit a straight this week in OK when playing the 10 number challenge .. (I forgot who posted that post..)
I don't go into a lot of detail of what I do , how I use my methods, or what profits are being made on this side now. In the past I caught a lot of flack from members when I tried helping. Even been accused of lying. It is so hard for some to accept truth so let it be..
I have listed a lot of what I do in my blog. If given my way, those would be deleted now. I have my thoughts there in private now, so I can refer back to different things I am trying with the pick 5. It is now my challenge.
Tntea, thanks for the update, I respect and understand your decision to refer me to your blog, I will do so and verify for myself. Im not sure I see your post on the following page Vtracs and Old combined. I do see a previous post of Vtracs and Old method on about page 5 of this post. Is that what you are referring to ? and no you did not said you "promised". I will use a more appropriate term next time. Thanks again, I will report to you my finding with the v-tracs. Hopefully, I believe her screenname is littlelady can shed some light on the details sounding hot and cold v-tracs. However, it just finding averages based upon the data, and if higher than the average its cold and the reverse its hot.
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jan 15, 2007
A profitable system is a cheating system. If you know what's coming up next then it's unfair to the other losers and those businesses running the games for profit. As least that's the impression I got from the judge remarks in the article https://www.lotterypost.com/news/148908.htm .
When you participate in a lottery or a casino game, the only gamblers in the games are the players. It's a profitable business for those running the games and the players are loser by design, some one have to provide the profits for the businesses and monies for the prizes for the few lucky winners.
If anyone ever come with a strategy to make playing any lottery game profitable then that game will end.
Thanks RJoh for the notification!
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Quote: Originally posted by WSN1 on Jan 15, 2007
I agree cps10, you can get bit by the lagger. I like the approach. However, in your example, how did you get to bankroll of $2,375 for a $325 win. EEO in all positions = 375 combos right? I think Im missing something. Again, Max sKip is a sound approach for any day of week if managed well. I like it!!! Thanks, and it works offline, with progression. That's even more exciting!, Also, what programs are you using to make your filter grouping and generate your stats. I have always customised my excel spreadsheets, but I am thinking about going to Access to give me better coverage of managing my strategies. First, Ive got to learn Access. No, one program has ever given me what I wanted.
LotSoft works in an Access environment...it's the best to my knowledge. But like everyone has a-holes, everyone has opinions as to what they like best. I personally like LotSoft because of the Access base.
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Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on Jan 16, 2007
LotSoft works in an Access environment...it's the best to my knowledge. But like everyone has a-holes, everyone has opinions as to what they like best. I personally like LotSoft because of the Access base.
Yep, Until I ran across LotSoft recently, there was nothing touched my spreadsheets. Now, I want Im teased again. I want that functionality and flexibility that LotSoft gives, however, I need a little more flexibility to create new strategies and back test the results, so I might use LotSoft as basic for customizing my own version, if I can work how to develop in Access. By, the did figure out why the 2375 bankroll and 325 p from your previous post. I was little confused ?
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Well, it was progression-based, remember. I don't have the figures right in front of me, but that's what the loss would have been if it had (EEO) not drawn. But since it won, with the progressive wagering, the profits were $325 after that $2375 outlay.
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Quote: Originally posted by tntea on Jan 15, 2007
Were there a promise? I dont remember.. All of this is listed in my blog
This method can be backtested for proof..
Tntea, I went through your blog, month by month pages and saw only v-tracs outputs and vtracs, definitions which, Ive understood for several years. Then I went to your lesson 101, and just got exhausted going through most of those 18 pgs of everyone trying to setup there vtracs tables. Imma have to pass on your method, after about 1 hr of searching, I found nothing new for me. And I respect that you do not feel comfortable going in detail outside of your blog and unfortuately that wont help me in my research with vtracs. Just following up as I stated I would.
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Quote: Originally posted by WSN1 on Jan 15, 2007
Tntea, thanks for the update, I respect and understand your decision to refer me to your blog, I will do so and verify for myself. Im not sure I see your post on the following page Vtracs and Old combined. I do see a previous post of Vtracs and Old method on about page 5 of this post. Is that what you are referring to ? and no you did not said you "promised". I will use a more appropriate term next time. Thanks again, I will report to you my finding with the v-tracs. Hopefully, I believe her screenname is littlelady can shed some light on the details sounding hot and cold v-tracs. However, it just finding averages based upon the data, and if higher than the average its cold and the reverse its hot.
You can find it through the search too.
I see you are from TX.. That state is known for repeats repeats repeats. The Old system works good there.. You can use it to tell which numbers will repeat..
