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Quick Picks can't match the power of Self Picks

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Posted: October 16, 2007, 10:18 am - IP Logged

I thought "random creep" was someone on Jerry Springer.

 

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    Posted: October 17, 2007, 3:00 pm - IP Logged

    Random Creep?

    Hey, That's me!

    Pretty much random and I am a Creep.

    Shocked

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      Posted: October 17, 2007, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

      Random creep. I hear it is one of the warning signs for needing Depends.

      Blush

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        Posted: October 17, 2007, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

        Random creep. I hear it is one of the warning signs for needing Depends.

        Blush

        I think you're confusing that with Random Seep. Confused

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          Posted: October 29, 2007, 4:47 pm - IP Logged

          Self picks vs Quick picks.  The numbers are random.  Any patterns that you believe you are seeing are a mirage.   Quick picks that group in the number range are no worse or better than any other number combination.  There is only one place that self picks have an advantage to quick picks, and that is to take advantage of other players' selection anomolies.  Specifically, when the pot is large it will draw a lot of players.  In these cases the probability of multiple winners begins to increase.  This is when a a self pick makes sense, to minimize the chance of multiple player wins and isolate the pot for yourself.  A selection of a set of numbers at the high end of the number range will have a better chance of reducing the probability of multiple wins if that number combination hits (which has the same probability as any other combination).  This is because there are enough people that play birthdays and lower numbers to skew the distribution of numbers being played to the low side.  This is the only place where self picks have legitimacy in a statistical sense.  (Unless you believe the random number generators are flawed--a dubious claim--except in Tennessee).

            JADELottery's avatar - MeAtWork 03.PNG
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            Posted: November 9, 2007, 6:14 am - IP Logged

            Self picks vs Quick picks.  The numbers are random.  Any patterns that you believe you are seeing are a mirage.   Quick picks that group in the number range are no worse or better than any other number combination.  There is only one place that self picks have an advantage to quick picks, and that is to take advantage of other players' selection anomolies.  Specifically, when the pot is large it will draw a lot of players.  In these cases the probability of multiple winners begins to increase.  This is when a a self pick makes sense, to minimize the chance of multiple player wins and isolate the pot for yourself.  A selection of a set of numbers at the high end of the number range will have a better chance of reducing the probability of multiple wins if that number combination hits (which has the same probability as any other combination).  This is because there are enough people that play birthdays and lower numbers to skew the distribution of numbers being played to the low side.  This is the only place where self picks have legitimacy in a statistical sense.  (Unless you believe the random number generators are flawed--a dubious claim--except in Tennessee).

            Sorry Rehoboth,

            I got a little side tracked on some other projects. I'm going to respond to each of your statements as they were typed. Some of them will have details, some won't.

             

            Self picks vs Quick picks.

                Opening statement.

             

            The numbers are random.

                Open ended statement.

             

            Any patterns that you believe you are seeing are a mirage.

                This statement I'd have to disagree with. Every lottery is based in some form finite combinatorial or permutational selection. That finite set of numbers follows a pattern that can be described mathematically, logically, structurally, numerically, and quantumly; all of which are well known patterns of the Universe. Quantum Lottery Mechanics, a new field of Combinatorics, says that if you randomly sample from a known finite set of combinatorial or permutational items, you must have within that sample set a pattern or sub-pattern of combinations or permutations that are fractally similar to the whole set of finite combinations or permutations. This is closely related to the Combinatorial Farctalization I've posted before. Simply put, no matter how random something may appear to be, there will always be some kind of pattern in the Chaos. Order is a subset of Chaos. Anytime you create a subset of Chaos, you in essence create Order; it can not be avoided. There will some pattern even when you select seemingly at random from that Order until the Order is released back into Chaos. Keep in mind that Quantum Lottery Mechanics does not say precisely what the pattern is, it just accurately describes what it should be like.

             

            Quick picks that group in the number range are no worse or better than any other number combination.

                The relevant issue of whether Quick Picks had a combinatorial advantage or not over Self Picks is not in contention here.

             

            There is only one place that self picks have an advantage to quick picks, and that is to take advantage of other players' selection anomolies.

                I'll agree partially here.

             

            Specifically, when the pot is large it will draw a lot of players.

                Factual statement.

             

            In these cases the probability of multiple winners begins to increase.

                Again, factual.

             

            This is when a a self pick makes sense, to minimize the chance of multiple player wins and isolate the pot for yourself.

                Yes and no, the only true way to prevent someone from having your winning combination is to prevent anyone from playing it. However, since that is very unlikely, probability suggests it still can happen and even more so when more people are playing.

             

            A selection of a set of numbers at the high end of the number range will have a better chance of reducing the probability of multiple wins if that number combination hits (which has the same probability as any other combination).

                Possible, but I don't have the statistical information to argue that point. I'm sure there is some study out there that can help, but for now I'll say, possibly yes.

             

            This is because there are enough people that play birthdays and lower numbers to skew the distribution of numbers being played to the low side.

                Again, possibly yes.

             

            This is the only place where self picks have legitimacy in a statistical sense.

                Seems logical, but again, statistical information would help.

             

            (Unless you believe the random number generators are flawed--a dubious claim--except in Tennessee).

                Well, the proof is in the pudding and I've been tasting some pretty bitter samples lately. More to come on this one in another topic to be posted.

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              Posted: November 10, 2007, 1:58 pm - IP Logged

              hey Ky Floyd

               

              Well said.

              I have alwys known that any given set of numbers are just as likely to occur as any other. 

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                Posted: November 18, 2007, 3:10 am - IP Logged

                I'm posting this information because some of the matching numbers are falling below the Lottery Post's Prediction Statistic Radar.

                The wheel I'm using to post my Self Picks is as follows.

                Index

                A

                B

                C

                D

                E

                1

                1

                2

                3

                5

                7

                2

                1

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                5

                12

                3

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                10

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                11

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                1

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                1

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                5

                6

                12

                11

                1

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                12

                1

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                13

                1

                4

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                8

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                14

                1

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                15

                1

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                5

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                12

                16

                1

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                1

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                18

                1

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                1

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                2

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                6

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                10

                26

                2

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                27

                2

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                11

                28

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                29

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                Next are the up-to-date matches for each day's drawn numbers and the corresponding wheel line matches.

                Data Stream Chrono

                Badger 5 Selected Numbers

                Wheel Numbers Derived from Previous Days Selection

                Wheel Distribution of Matched Numbers

                Index

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                0

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                0

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                14

                28

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                11

                12

                13

                14

                15

                16

                17

                18

                19

                29

                21

                 

                 

                 

                 

                41

                2007

                11

                14

                6

                9

                17

                20

                22

                10

                11

                12

                13

                14

                15

                16

                17

                18

                19

                20

                21

                14

                31

                5

                 

                 

                 

                42

                2007

                11

                15

                8

                9

                16

                22

                30

                9

                10

                11

                12

                13

                14

                15

                16

                17

                18

                19

                20

                16

                26

                8

                 

                 

                 

                43

                2007

                11

                16

                12

                14

                17

                27

                30

                12

                13

                14

                15

                16

                17

                18

                19

                20

                21

                22

                23

                7

                26

                14

                3

                 

                 

                44

                2007

                11

                17

                2

                9

                14

                18

                22

                15

                16

                17

                18

                19

                20

                21

                22

                23

                24

                25

                26

                16

                26

                8

                 

                 

                 

                What is falling below the Lottery Post's Prediction Radar are the Match 2 instances.

                Doing fairly well, but I have yet to see the Quick Pickers try and challange.

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                  Update

                  Here are the matches for 2007-11-18 to 2007-11-30

                   

                  IndexYearMonthDay12345123456789101112012345
                  45200711187111625318910111213141516171819201812   
                  46200711194919202813141516171819202122232415287   
                  472007112010222325291112131415161718192021222921    
                  482007112157814271617181920212223242526272921    
                  492007112211016293078910111213141516171816268   
                  50200711233511273012131415161718192021222350     
                  512007112416131516101112131415161718192021724181  
                  522007112513111317567891011121314151614306   
                  532007112661117182045678910111213141517249   
                  54200711271823242528910111213141516171819202921    
                  55200711282418253018192021222324252627282916268   
                  5620071129111423283010111213141516171819202115296   
                  5720071130102426303116171819202122232425262717258   

                   

                  Challenge update

                  I see that in another posted topic someone is taking credit for someone else's effort and trying to pass it off as their Quick Pick challenge. That's a really sad attempt to try and convince others that somehow another person's time, money and effort is a means of proving their point. Also, I have yet to see anyone truly put forth any effort on a dollar for dollar basis, one-on-one, YOUR OWN QUICK PICKS to MY SELF PICKS challenge. Well, since we don't have anyone with any bawls, I guess I have to do this my self. I picked up $50.00 bucks of Quick Picks for my state's Badger 5, it's a 5/31 lottery. Since I'm already using my Lottery Post predictions for Badger 5 on another project, I'll post these numbers here. Below are the listed numbers and their associated ticket numbers. After that are the scanned pictures of the tickets themselves.

                   

                    Badger 5 Quick Picks for 2007-12-01
                  IndexTicket #ABCDE
                  00010152640305212228
                  00020152641112152428
                  00030152640815252731
                  00040152641920212830
                  00050152640611121415
                  00060127120305111231
                  00070127120103131929
                  00080127121014192026
                  00090127120218232427
                  00100127120513222628
                  00110148890611141626
                  00120148890815192526
                  00130148890411181929
                  00140148890216182330
                  00150148890109232728
                  00160153440821242731
                  00170153440309252931
                  00180153440610171927
                  00190153440709171923
                  00200153440515202331
                  00210169330215242931
                  00220169330917202125
                  00230169330207101827
                  00240169330304091125
                  00250169330119202631
                  00260121470203051824
                  00270121470406222325
                  00280121470711192431
                  00290121470408172230
                  00300121470812182730
                  00310124980514152024
                  00320124980813152022
                  00330124980103132327
                  00340124980203061315
                  00350124980410141627
                  00360106380223252730
                  00370106380507081719
                  00380106380714162324
                  00390106380608132030
                  00400106380109121930
                  00410151670411161922
                  00420151670618212731
                  00430151670515202830
                  00440151670106142029
                  00450151670209121730
                  00460192500105081125
                  00470192500307142324
                  00480192500412202327
                  00490192500107091820
                  00500192500609101421

                   

                  Quick Pick scanned pictures.

                   

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                    Extra update note - The A, B, C, D and E across the top in the Table does not correspond to the A, B, C, D and E in the Scanned pictures.

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                      Ok, here's the results from this sample. The Quick Picks covered all 31 numbers and got the following matches. The Total amount won by Quick Pick 7 - $1.00, 2 - $2.00 for a grand total of $11.00.

                      012345
                      16257200

                      My self picks only matched 3 of the 5 numbers and was potentially played in a 12 number wheel. Here are the matches for my Self Picks. The Total possible won by Self Pick 20 - $1.00, 1 - $2.00 for a grand total of $22.00.

                      012345
                      101920100

                      Just think the Quick Picks covered all the numbers and matched 5 of 5 and only got a $11.00 win.

                      On the other hand my Self Picks only matched 3 of 5 and got a possible $22.00 win.

                      My Self Picks are optimized to produce the most number of wins with the least amount of effort.

                      Fact proven!

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                        That was fun. I think I'll try it again for this Sunday. I will post the Crappy Picks.. uh, I mean Quick Picks later in the day.

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                          "I see that in another posted topic someone is taking credit for someone else's effort and trying to pass it off as their Quick Pick challenge. That's a really sad attempt to try and convince others that somehow another person's time, money and effort is a means of proving their point. "

                          If it's my thread you're talking about you assume much. I'm not taking credit for anything. If you read the OP to my thread the specific numbers aren't what it's about, it's QP jackpots vs chosen number jackpots, not the numbers.   

                          The point of it is tracking jackpots and breaking them down into QPs or chosen numbers.

                          In this thread you've mentioned $11 and $22 dollar payouts (QPs and your wheels), which, let's face it, only go to buy more tickets.  The lopttery knows this all too well and doesn't give a hoot how many $22 winners you book.

                          You also don't mention total spent vs winnings, I think you need to introdice the term realtive to the buy in here.  

                          Someone who plays $1 and hits 4 of 5 for $100 is certainly better off than someone who plays $35 and wins $10.  

                          Anyway, here's the thread, pick a jackpot game and track the jackpots broken down ointo QPs or not and let's see what we have come Dec 31st.

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/166765/938592 

                          Of course, I'm making the assumption that people play to try and won a jackpot, silly me.  

                          IRL I would offer you this bet, you pick a jackpot game, and  I'll pay you $10 for every non QP jackpot winner, but you have yo pay me $10 for every QP jackpot winner? Would you take that bet?

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            JADE Lottery

                            "I see that in another posted topic someone is taking credit for someone else's effort and trying to pass it off as their Quick Pick challenge. That's a really sad attempt to try and convince others that somehow another person's time, money and effort is a means of proving their point. "

                            If it's my thread you're talking about you assume much. I'm not taking credit for anything. If you read the OP to my thread the specific numbers aren't what it's about, it's QP jackpots vs chosen number jackpots, not the numbers.   

                            The point of it is tracking jackpots and breaking them down into QPs or chosen numbers.

                            In this thread you've mentioned $11 and $22 dollar payouts (QPs and your wheels), which, let's face it, only go to buy more tickets.  The lopttery knows this all too well and doesn't give a hoot how many $22 winners you book.

                            You also don't mention total spent vs winnings, I think you need to introdice the term realtive to the buy in here.  

                            Someone who plays $1 and hits 4 of 5 for $100 is certainly better off than someone who plays $35 and wins $10.  

                            Anyway, here's the thread, pick a jackpot game and track the jackpots broken down ointo QPs or not and let's see what we have come Dec 31st.

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/166765/938592 

                            Of course, I'm making the assumption that people play to try and won a jackpot, silly me.  

                            IRL I would offer you this bet, you pick a jackpot game, and  I'll pay you $10 for every non QP jackpot winner, but you have yo pay me $10 for every QP jackpot winner? Would you take that bet?

                            You forgot this part -

                            "Also, I have yet to see anyone truly put forth any effort on a dollar for dollar basis, one-on-one, YOUR OWN QUICK PICKS to MY SELF PICKS challenge. Well, since we don't have anyone with any bawls, I guess I have to do this my self."

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                              For one thing, my average play is $1 a draw, maybe $2 or more if the jackpot is up (Little Lotto had been over $1,000,000, not bad for a Pick 5 game), so I'm not about to go dollar-for-dollar with anyone who wheels numbers. 

                              In your post with the scanned tickets, if I'm reading it right, you're showing $50 worth of play for one day. You talk of winning $22. I don't see any winnng in that whatsoever. I do see a bookie's wet dream.

                              I'll also venture that if you're playing $50 a pop all $22 went on the next drawing.

                               If one is playing quick picks, is there really such a thing as "your own quick pikcs"?  Think about that one.  

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.