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Why I think quick picks suck

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Posted: June 23, 2008, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

this post caught my eye cause I just hit a straight box daily 3 on friday with a quick pick, I've been getting 2/3 for a while so last friday I bought a qp to go with my own numbers, and wa laa it hit, right now I'm high on qp's, haha, good luck everyone

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    OK, we've got "quick picks suck", "I played a quick pick once in 1986 and didn't win the jackpot like I wanted wah wah wah wah wah", oh boo hoo wah wah wah ad nauseam.

    First, people are forgeting there is no bet you can make that you, the player are SUPPOSED to win. The house, be it a casino or state lottery, has the edge pr they wouldn;t book your action, and in lotto that edge is taken to astronomical extremes, literally.

    HOW ABOUT THIS  - anybody or everybody that is so insistent that quick picks suck- pick the game you play (jackpot games), track it, and post the daily list of the jackpit winners. Do it for 30 days at least ot 90 days and let's see what you get.

    It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to do this, and if you're here on the board posting about wah wah wah how bad quick picks suck wah wah oh boo hoo I lost my dollar wah wah wah you can just as easily go to the website of the lottery you're playing annd post the results.

    At this point I'll say you're either willing to do that or if not just want to spout your erroneopus conjecture about what hits and what doesn't, and are afraid of tracking and posting results because you know what they'll show.

    I'm sure some of you had one heck of a time at the 1994 World Series.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Nobody is crying, that is pure conjecture on your part CT, the irony is that QP's both suque and blow at the same time.  I  accept the loss of my wager happily, knowingly, with no expectation to hit with a QP or hand pick, for that matter. 

      People who advocate that QP's are "The Way" are just leaving it to fate, they are uninvolved in the chosen wager (other than being in it, key), more power to them and they probably just don't have the time to mess with it.  I betcha' you one thing, though, all those winning tickets out there that have won large and don't get claimed are QP's.  For the very opposite reason, people who pick their own, are on it, and always collect when they hit.

      What I would like to know is: How many uncollected jackpots are QP's versus self-picked?

      My final point is: "QP's are for the masses."

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        A lot of people may start out thinking like that, but what do you think they're saying after 1,000, 2,000, or more drawings?

        If quick picks are for the masses, then we can also say picking your own numbers is for the megalomaniacs.

        Just playing the game, you're leaving it to fate.

        It would make sense that more uncollected winners are quick picks simply based on there are more quick picks.

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          There is no basis AFAIK for believing winners who don't claim prizes buy QPs. OTOH it might be a logical assumption if you think about all the impulse buyers who say "Oh, let me have one of them those lottery things ya'll sell." Sitting down to select numbers takes a little more effort.  But I've also gotten a few small wins when I just pick 6 numbers out of the blue.  Yes, I believe QPs have the same chance of winning as self-picks but, living in a state with a lot of tourism, I can see how someone might toss a few tickets into the suitcase and forget about them.  Since they're "unclaimed" it's impossible to ever research this matter, right? 

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            Once upon a time, a cracker working at a Stuckey's on the highway headed north sold Tommy & Tilly Tourist a baby alligator and some Floricda lottery tickets.

            On the way home, the baby alligator ate the tickets.

            When they got back to NY they flushed the baby alligator, and thus a winning Florida lottery ticket, down the toilet.

            Time went by and then a monster reptile was terrorizing the NY subway system and the National Guard was called in.

            They blew it away, but a Florida lottery ticket was found, in tact, at the site.

            One of the Guardsmen, being a member of LP, said, "Look at this would ya, a winning ticket from Florida, but it's expired."

            Everyone thought the whole thing was over, but then a lot of automatic weapon firing started going on.

            Somone asked someone coming out of the subway whay happened, and they said, "Somebody asked if the ticket was a quick pick or not."

            Scared

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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              Just bought a quick pick for the Texas Two Step drawing tonight.  Here's what the computer spit out at me: 1-3-4-5+10.  NICE!  I know, I know, quick picks win a majority of jackpots, but give me a break.  I think that's probably the last quick pick I will ever buy.........EVER. 

              It never fails: When folks leave the selection of their Lottery Numbers to someone else (QPs): They come to LP and whine about their disappointment with the Lottery Numbers they were given. If you're going to mark yourself as a loser even before the drawing has occurred, then you should probably Select your Own numbers rather then Place a Bet with QPs: After all this is Gambling: No Guarantees that you'll be given Numbers that look good to you or Numbers that will Win!

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                Wow, I had no idea that some people had such strong feelings about this subject that they would feel the need to post rude replies that offer nothing to the discussion.  I was simply stating my thoughts on quick picks.  I've been buying them for about 16 years off and on and I think I've had more than enough time to develop my opinion.  It is only that, though, an opinion.  For those of you who feel you are soooooo much smarter and that your opinion is sooooooooo much better............enjoy your conversation.  It's totally pointless to continue this thread any longer as far as I'm concerned. 

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                  Oddly enough I seen many jackpot winning numbers that looked like that. Random is random. I have won some good cash on strange QP's as well. Bias and tampering is the cause of most losses...Most of the other big winners just let QP's do their job, and win. At least 80% of the time.

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                    There have been times that I have gotten combinations that I thought were "bad" and it used to annoy me. But now, I realize that any combination can come out and those picks that I thought were weird/bad could one day turn out to be a winner.

                    I Agree!TSC,

                    I used to get angry with those QP that come out like that, then some of those weird ones win like the 33 22 41 25 45.  But it won.  I too would never play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and mega number 6.  If that draw ever came out, Lady Luck would get a serious beat down from me personally.

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                      A lot of people may start out thinking like that, but what do you think they're saying after 1,000, 2,000, or more drawings?

                      If quick picks are for the masses, then we can also say picking your own numbers is for the megalomaniacs.

                      Just playing the game, you're leaving it to fate.

                      It would make sense that more uncollected winners are quick picks simply based on there are more quick picks.

                      No again, you are making  an unfounded statement, you can be assured they (the lottery) knows this fact, (QP's vs. handpicked uncollected) which we are not privy to, or is difficult to obtain, but they know the ratio.  A person such as Raven may know where to find this info.  but one cannot conclude that the two are proportional by any stretch. I am willing to wager that greater than 90% of uncollected jackpots were QP's., prove me wrong.

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                        No again, you are making  an unfounded statement, you can be assured they (the lottery) knows this fact, (QP's vs. handpicked uncollected) which we are not privy to, or is difficult to obtain, but they know the ratio.  A person such as Raven may know where to find this info.  but one cannot conclude that the two are proportional by any stretch. I am willing to wager that greater than 90% of uncollected jackpots were QP's., prove me wrong.

                        Jarasan

                        I said that since most tickets are quick picks then probalby most unclaimed winners are quick picks.

                        Then you said you're willing to wager that 90% of uncollected jackpots were QP's, and to prove you wrong.

                        Huh?

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Jarasan

                          I said that since most tickets are quick picks then probalby most unclaimed winners are quick picks.

                          Then you said you're willing to wager that 90% of uncollected jackpots were QP's, and to prove you wrong.

                          Huh?

                          My point is that uncollected jackpots or any uncollected winner for that matter is a QP, due to the players' lack of involvement or understanding of the game they are QP'ing, that is all.

                          The players that take the time to "SELECT" their plays will have a greater involvement in the game, therefore know when the drawing takes place, knows the odds, knows the payouts, knows about annuities and cash outs, know how to collect, when to collect etc., and most importantly won't let their alligator eat their tickets.

                          I see a lot of people playing (gambling) that have nary a clue how the game is played, or what day of the week the drawing is, so often, that I have no doubt the $millions$ of uncollected prizes are misplaced QP's.

                          The states know this, and that is one reason QP's are great for them because it is more money for them, right?  It is an easy way to get money out of peoples hands, no muss no fuss QP. They don't put uncollected money back into the games, they keep it.

                          So one could make the argument that QP's are taking advantage of some people and that the states are pickpocketing the masses, one QP at a time.

                          "Megalomania" is what happens when the Mega Millions jackpot gets large and they mention it on the local broadcast channels and there are lines to buy tickets, because a $120 million dollars is worth spending a dollar on a QP. 

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                            jarasan

                            You're assuming that all quick pick players have less involvement or understanding of the game. 

                            What you said holds true for some quick pick players, but there are others that have been playing for many, many years and after having seen jackpot after jackpot go to a quick pick, they start playing them.

                            QP converts brothers and sisters!

                            I know people who pick their own nunbers and don't even check their tickets until they have a stack of them. Then they go down to a place that sells lotto tickets and bogart the ticket scanner. So much for involvement and staying on top of things.

                            Lottery retailers, by the nature of the game, are "picking the pockets" of anyone who plays, regardless of how they picjkthe numbers.

                            The lotto makes millons of off quick picks, yes, but the average sale is $1.

                            On an individual basis, $1 isn't going to bankrupty most people.

                            But people with a system that they just "know" is going to hit go way, way more than a dollar. So on an individual basis, who do you think the lotto makes more off of?

                            To win a jackpot and go broke is tragic. To go broke trying to win a jackpot is tragic and ridiculous, and there are indeed people who have done that, and they weren't playing quick picks.

                            In the tickdets you scanned in previously yoiu had four of the five numbers in the top matrix, but yet nothing that paid, right? The most was two on different lines.

                            So even if someone can make a pretty good stab at what numbers will hit, they still have to line up as people pick them. But they don't most often.

                            As far as people playing having nary a clue, I know people who love to pick their own numbers on Mega Millions, they do it as a small group, and having playing it for a long time.

                            Then when it comes to the Mega number, if someone suggests a number that was picked in the top matrix, most of them say, "We already played that number."

                            I think we can say that if lack of knowledge of the game generates a lot of quick pick plays, lust for the jackpot generates belief in "my numbers have got to hit."

                            As some sage has said, doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is one form of insanity.

                            True, that goes for both quick picks and player picks, but sticking with a set of numbers that hasn't hit since Hannibal crossed the Alps might be a bit much.

                            Good Luck all!

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              I play quick picks all the time and choose numbers as well. Always wanting to win a large prize. I have a feeling all the time that I will win, but it doesn't always happen,. Maybe someday my fortune will change for the better!Party