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Amazing, i have read this thread for a couple of days and it would seem that your question or questions are being answered megathinktank(sp).  But the answers are not exactly as you want so therein you reject and berate the other posters.  I dont require or want any of your data of lotteries or # info.  Robert Perkis is very respected and knows more than alot about the # games.  So sorry all of the posters are so inadequate and dont meet your expectations here on the LP.  God bless and good luck.

I suggest you continue to read the entire post and don't stop at a thread where you blew up and had to respond right away.

My "number info" is not a requisite of your approval. I recognize Robert Perkis and thrill he recognizes my work (or maybe you didn't read what he had to say about my "number info").

Maybe it's best you take your seat among the "few" members I singled out AFTER they rudely came after me, airhead.

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    See folks, this is the problem I've been noticing since I started posting. It's like a battle between the establish members against the new members. It's the "attitude" by the establish members that been here much longer than most of us (you can tell by their Member Number) and they think that earns them the right to ridicule the newbies.

    I would think it's okay to do a "constructive criticism" but to mock someone in a sense where they feel unwelcomed, is a dangerous precedent in a community. Anybody that makes the decision to post on a forum should be prepare to meet "disagreeing minds" but members that get a kick out of slapping the newcomers around got another thing coming with me.

    I can't speak for all, I can speak for Mega-ThinkTank. It's not me to bully people around. It's not me to join a cohort of L.P. hooligans and go on this stupid little crusade, blunting people's "participation" as if they're badged and licensed to do so.

    Keep coming at me with that crap. If Todd doesn't step in and establish order, I'll put you in your place. Fast. Keep it up....

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      Hi,

         I'm not sure the best way to this, but I'll give it a try.

         If you've been around the LP for awhile, there have been several individuals and systems making fantastic claims about themselves and their systems. And in the end, when all the smoke and mirrors have run their course, there typically is very little substance to the claims. You indeed may have more experienced, have a better system, or any of the other positive attributes someone might want to look for. But, given what I just said, the best way to impress people is with your work not with........ If you go this route, it will be more about the merits of a system rather than an unjustified attack on a newcomber or some other negative agenda. If your after something, simply ask for it, without fluff or conditions. Either you'll get what you want or you won't, without all the drama.

        Yes there are some real winners here. But there is also alot of people who are legit and won't give a second thought to helping you if they can.

        Take it of leave it. Just trying to help.

      You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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        "It's the "attitude" by the establish members that been here much longer than most of us (you can tell by their Member Number) and they think that earns them the right to ridicule the newbies."

        Having a low member number doesn't means one is an established member, it just means they have been around for while and probably have read other posts similar to yours. 

        Old ideas keep getting recirculated by new members who think they are new.  Ever body who comes to LP talks about winning a lottery and it's not unique but talk only keep others interested for while, you actually have to win something to impress them. 

        Just hang in there and keep posting, someone will read your posts and appreciate them, possible other new members.  Just remember, when you are playing the lotteries, you're playing for yourself and not for the benefits of others.

        Good luck to you.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: July 22, 2008, 4:55 pm - IP Logged

          I don't think that "all" systems either incorporate history "or"  mysticism.  While my"blend" system includes these elements as it pertains to number selection; I like to kick around other ideas that don't involve these considerations.

          Such as making a number/line selection that covers as much ground as possible with as little expense.  Finding ways (in disregard to past history) to produce some 2nd/3rd place winners.  I like tax free fast money. I know that various wheeling methods can help with this but have another vision in mind.

          Mega-think-tank.  Hats off to you for your efforts.  You show em man! But dude, I see people come to forums like this all the time.  (even if no fault of they're own) end up in disputes with the regulars and various useless trolls.  Taking this way too seriously.

          Always ends the same way.  They crash, burn and are gone shortly after.

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            Posted: July 22, 2008, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

            Now that would make a sweet filter if any lottery filtering software authors are reading this. 

            BobP

            By using this filter alone, the total number of combinations would be reduced by 11.14% in 60% of the drawings and used with other filters it would certainly help. But the real problem with both MM and PB is filtering the large number of starting combination down to playable combos; even after a 99% reduction there are still over 39,000 combos.

            This filter can be applied to the Free Wheeling program by using 3 steps. Use the zone filters to include 1 to 2 of the numbers ending in 0 and exclude all the numbers ending in 1, save the combos then reverse that in step 2. Save again and then exclude all the combos with numbers ending in the digits 0 and 1. In the third step, set the final digits filter to 1 to 2 and get a greater reduction.

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              Unless the theory is hard wired into probability and step by step to a result, it's going to be largely subjective.  You know, a gut feel, train the brain kinda thing.   

              Guess I'm not the only one that talks to the numbers.

              BobP



               

              The budget constraints dictate there will always be some subjectivity as the decisions are made on which filters to use and in which order to use them.

              E.g. you have a budget to play 20 combos. Your system produces 40 sets which include a-b-c-d-e+x and a-b-c-d-f+y. You need a consistent way to decide which combo is kept when that happens.

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                By using this filter alone, the total number of combinations would be reduced by 11.14% in 60% of the drawings and used with other filters it would certainly help. But the real problem with both MM and PB is filtering the large number of starting combination down to playable combos; even after a 99% reduction there are still over 39,000 combos.

                This filter can be applied to the Free Wheeling program by using 3 steps. Use the zone filters to include 1 to 2 of the numbers ending in 0 and exclude all the numbers ending in 1, save the combos then reverse that in step 2. Save again and then exclude all the combos with numbers ending in the digits 0 and 1. In the third step, set the final digits filter to 1 to 2 and get a greater reduction.

                Stack,

                My method has nothing to do with "combinations." It's a method to reduce the field of numbers you plan to play.

                Look at it another way, just pick whatever lines you plan to play, then applied my method and check your last digits on your lines and make sure the "consecutive numbers" the method produces doesn't play on your lines.

                In the last 7 draws, 5 of those draws (before the last two) worked like a charm. Check for yourself if you don't believe me. It's works 60 percent of the times, not "11.41% in 60% of the drawings..."

                 

                If one wants to use it in conjuction with other filters, whatever helps your game. The method is pretty effective alone though. However, it can be strengthened through creative means.

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                  Posted: July 22, 2008, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

                  See folks, this is the problem I've been noticing since I started posting. It's like a battle between the establish members against the new members. It's the "attitude" by the establish members that been here much longer than most of us (you can tell by their Member Number) and they think that earns them the right to ridicule the newbies.

                  I would think it's okay to do a "constructive criticism" but to mock someone in a sense where they feel unwelcomed, is a dangerous precedent in a community. Anybody that makes the decision to post on a forum should be prepare to meet "disagreeing minds" but members that get a kick out of slapping the newcomers around got another thing coming with me.

                  I can't speak for all, I can speak for Mega-ThinkTank. It's not me to bully people around. It's not me to join a cohort of L.P. hooligans and go on this stupid little crusade, blunting people's "participation" as if they're badged and licensed to do so.

                  Keep coming at me with that crap. If Todd doesn't step in and establish order, I'll put you in your place. Fast. Keep it up....

                  "Keep coming at me with that crap. If Todd doesn't step in and establish order, I'll put you in your place. Fast. Keep it up...."

                  LMAO!

                  LP is a place where people discuss a large number of lottery related topics with very few restrictions. There has been people banned from this site for posting inappropriate material, but it was done by the owner. And since you're not the owner, this idea that you can put people in their place is not only untrue but very silly.

                  "See folks, this is the problem I've been noticing since I started posting. It's like a battle between the establish members against the new members."

                  I've only been posting here for a couple years and saw many extraordinary claims made by first time posters. There is a huge difference between sounding like a salesmen saying they have a fool proof system/theory/method to beat the lottery games and posting a theory and/or part of the methodology. If there is a battle, it's between members that have established credibility and new members making unproven extraordinary claims. Do you really expect to get credibility by only saying you found a pattern in 300 plus drawings in a game with 175 million possible combinations?

                  Other criticisms of new members is when they start a new thread with the same topic that was discussed many times and sometimes less than a week before. Even some of the established members will post their predictions in inappropriate threads but that's why put a scroll button on a mouse. I don't see why it's necessary for people to start individual threads for each of their state predictions in the game forums, but since it only makes it little more difficult to find what I'm looking for, I can live with it. It's not like it actually prevents me from reading other threads.

                  Had you presented your method to reduce the field of numbers on page 1 the only criticism would be constructive. Lotteries have been played for thousands of years and people started discussing lottery topics on the Internet the day after Al Gore invented it. I doubt the "hey, look at me attitude" is going to impress anyone.

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                    Mega ThinkTank you would do well to keep your names to yourself, or maybe you cant just agree to disagree, or you will just fade away as alot of others have done in the past.  Names are for schoolchildren not adults.  Alot of what you say is and has been said by alot of posters who are not here anymore.  Please instruct and show the folks at LP what you are asking the other posters to do.  Words have as much power as one gives them.  Do you know anyone called tomcat.  God bless and good luck.

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                      By using this filter alone, the total number of combinations would be reduced by 11.14% in 60% of the drawings and used with other filters it would certainly help. But the real problem with both MM and PB is filtering the large number of starting combination down to playable combos; even after a 99% reduction there are still over 39,000 combos.

                      This filter can be applied to the Free Wheeling program by using 3 steps. Use the zone filters to include 1 to 2 of the numbers ending in 0 and exclude all the numbers ending in 1, save the combos then reverse that in step 2. Save again and then exclude all the combos with numbers ending in the digits 0 and 1. In the third step, set the final digits filter to 1 to 2 and get a greater reduction.

                      The filter is not to play any of the final digits that appeared in the prior draw and not to play any consecutives of those that remain. 

                      The applicable Free Wheeling filter would be not loading those unwanted numbers by K - Keypad instead of using P - Pointer.

                      At least that's what I think, who knows I could be right.

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                        That sounds like playing a hunch, which is fine but it's more like buying a QP when you're feeling lucky than using a thought out system for picking your numbers.

                        Sometimes you don't only need more tools in your toolbox, you need a whole workshop. 

                        There's a different path to the Jackpot for every draw.  There's nothing wrong with taking a look at the numbers on a skip and hit chart to try and determine the numbers most likely to fall.  If you find yourself talking to the numbers (or yourself for that matter) trying to come up with a valid reason to play any nunber, it shouldn't be a surprise.

                        Studying the movement of the numbers may involve a hunch, hopefully more goes into their selection than that. 

                        BobP


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                          Oh I get it, first, the criticism by you and a few others was that I'm out to rob people's ideas etc. Then it was a attack against my credibility that I contribute nothing. Then it was a mock that there's "no thinktank system." The onslaughts kept going and going by a FEW MEMBERS.

                          I put a method out, not only does it works, a highly-regarded member gave it the thumbs up. Other members asked for my advice. Other members agree with me on other issues but the "few members" are still hellbent on me.

                          One tried to discredit my method after praising the very member that approve of my method -- how stupid such a fool sound No Nod

                          The other "few member" gang seems to be taking turns trying to slam me around when their original disagreement with me was that "I contributed nothing." Now that I have, they still hellbent on me. You know what that's call? It's call JEALOUSY. It's call "being a HATER (you welcome for allowing me to assess your character).

                          Either way it goes (contribute or not) the establish members will continue the stupid little crusade of bullying the newcomers around. At least I know why....haters.

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                            By using this filter alone, the total number of combinations would be reduced by 11.14% in 60% of the drawings and used with other filters it would certainly help. But the real problem with both MM and PB is filtering the large number of starting combination down to playable combos; even after a 99% reduction there are still over 39,000 combos.

                            This filter can be applied to the Free Wheeling program by using 3 steps. Use the zone filters to include 1 to 2 of the numbers ending in 0 and exclude all the numbers ending in 1, save the combos then reverse that in step 2. Save again and then exclude all the combos with numbers ending in the digits 0 and 1. In the third step, set the final digits filter to 1 to 2 and get a greater reduction.

                            Hi,

                             Given the available methods out there, I'm not sure Mega's is a best choice senario. Using Stack47 info of a 11.14% combination reduction with a 40% error as a measure to compare, I have hesitant to use it in any shape or form. If you look at the table below you'll notice by simply eliminating 2 of the same numbers out of all your combination you get a 17% combination reduction with a 3.6% error. Even if you want to give Mega's system some slack, because it's historically based and eliminates specific numbers, you're still left with a huge difference.

                              Nothing personnal Mega.....by the numbers.

                             

                             

                            NUMCOMB
                            605461512                                        MEGA-MILLIONS   
                            595006386      COMBINATIONS 
                            584582116(X) # ' sCOMBINATIONPERCENTTO %"(X) / 56 %"
                            574187106Elim.REDUCTIONREDUCTIONCOMPARE 
                            563819816000.0000%0.00000.00
                            55347876113410558.9286%38198.16001.79
                            543162510231625117.2078%18378.36003.57
                            532869685329282524.8737%11772.45695.36
                            522598960427072531.9611%8470.44777.14
                            512349060524990038.5033%6490.34938.93
                            502118760623030044.5324%5171.514810.71

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                              Oh I get it, first, the criticism by you and a few others was that I'm out to rob people's ideas etc. Then it was a attack against my credibility that I contribute nothing. Then it was a mock that there's "no thinktank system." The onslaughts kept going and going by a FEW MEMBERS.

                              I put a method out, not only does it works, a highly-regarded member gave it the thumbs up. Other members asked for my advice. Other members agree with me on other issues but the "few members" are still hellbent on me.

                              One tried to discredit my method after praising the very member that approve of my method -- how stupid such a fool sound No Nod

                              The other "few member" gang seems to be taking turns trying to slam me around when their original disagreement with me was that "I contributed nothing." Now that I have, they still hellbent on me. You know what that's call? It's call JEALOUSY. It's call "being a HATER (you welcome for allowing me to assess your character).

                              Either way it goes (contribute or not) the establish members will continue the stupid little crusade of bullying the newcomers around. At least I know why....haters.

                              What do you expect when you come here bragging that you're going to be the next to hit a MM jackpot with your "system"? Then nothing, absolutely nothing comes from with it after the hype and then start with this sort of thing.

                              Stop whining and take it like a man, not some twerp on the playground who embarrassed themself.

                              You can't predict random.