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How to Prove Your Lottery IS Fixed?

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Posted: September 2, 2008, 7:30 am - IP Logged

I am more inclined to suspect the instant lotteries of being manipulated as opposed to the lottery drawings.  Still,  even with the regular lottery drawings, you know there is a statistical mathemetician somewhere who is going to figure out some formulaic strategy to get the machine to perform in a certain way. 

But back to those instant scratch off lottery tickets.   I think those are much more susceptible to human interference.   Since at least one person at the top of the distribution chain  knows the big winners in some of the ticket packs, and given the fact that the various States' lottery officials are furnished with lists that identify which packs/books contain the mega-winners,   it would be rare, indeed, to have straight shooters involved in the process from start to finish. 

Not only that, but the lottery is often derisively referred to as "the poor man's tax."   The instant lottery seems to fit that description quite aptly.   Wouldn't it seem logical that  winning tickets are distributed a bit more generously in the political districts that are facing revenue shortages?  Once the word gets around that big winnings are sold at stores X, Y and Z in towns A, B and C, the residents of those towns are going to be clamoring for a chance to win, thus perpetuating a fairly predictable rate of return for the region in which those tickets are stocked and then bought and then redeemed.     

 In other words, I can envision a scenario where a particular County's  economic shortfall might gain a few more dollars in its coffers with the taxes earned via winning lottery tickets. 

It would be interesting to see an accurately prepared sheet showing how the tickets are distributed, i.e., are the winners spread evenly throughout the Counties in a given state or are they spread thinly in towns that are considered "affluent?"   I'd also like to see a sheet showing the common denominator in the winners as well as in the retailers who sold the winning tickets and in the regions in which they are sold.   

I wonder which states have tested the data and drawn some theories or conclusions.   Or are they still insisting that it's all totally random?Confused

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    I feel that myself and 76 others were the unfortunate and unwilling victims of this computerized lottery  spoken of here. This is they way things appeared to happen to me at he 500 million dollar Grand Finale held in Atlanta Aug 30.

    We were 77 winners of a second chance to win 10 million dollars in the Georgia 500 million dollar Grande Finale. The questionable behavior began when a few days before this Grand Finale Event was to take place the Ga. Lottery sent questionaires to all the contestants asking personal questions ex: What is your occupation, What make and model car do you drive, Where were you born etc/ If this was to be a random drawing why do they need this information?

    Then when we get to Atlanta we are put  in a bus and taken across town to a studio where we are assigned seat numbers. Then we are photographed holding the seat numbers.  Why were we assigned seat numbers.Why were we photographed holding our seat numbers? We were then sent away for a couple of hours. When we were brought back we were told to sit in our assigned seats and the "computer" would pick 40 people to advance to the next stage of the Grand Finale. The 40 people who were chosen were given purses that contained either a gold or silver coins. The 20 people with the gold coins advanced to the next stage. Guess who gave out the purses? The lottery staff of course.

    The gold coins had numbers on them and billfolds were passed out according to the numbers. The billfolds with platinium markings advanced to the next round. Then the bubble machine picked 5 numbers that advanced to the next round. Then the  lottery staff pushed the 5 giant 10 ft scratch offs out from behind a curtain in the order they wanted them lined up in, and assigned them to the contestants in the order they pushed them out in. Ex: contestant #1 gets the first card push out, contestant # 2 gets the second card pushed out,

    When the cards were scratched off it left the two final contestants. One with a gold emblem and one with a green emblem. The final stage of the game had two safes. The one with the green emblem to be opened by the contestant who had the green emblemed giant scratch off and this of course was the winner. 

      To add insult to injury this whole thing was being taped and they kept stopping the game and redoing the contestants reactions and making the contestants left sitting in the assigned seats make excited surprised reactions over and over until they got it on tape like they wanted.

    We were trapped we had no way to get back to our cars, we couldn't leave. We were told if we left we wouldn't get of free Falcon tickets.

    IF this was truly a random game why not put all the names in a drum, they way they did the weekly drawings, and pull a name out.

    If it was a contest to see who could answer their questionaire best then we should have been told so.

    In any event there was no reason to keep 76 people confined for an entire day ,10 am till 6pm, for something that should have been done in one hour.

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      Posted: September 3, 2008, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

      I feel that myself and 76 others were the unfortunate and unwilling victims of this computerized lottery  spoken of here. This is they way things appeared to happen to me at he 500 million dollar Grand Finale held in Atlanta Aug 30.

      We were 77 winners of a second chance to win 10 million dollars in the Georgia 500 million dollar Grande Finale. The questionable behavior began when a few days before this Grand Finale Event was to take place the Ga. Lottery sent questionaires to all the contestants asking personal questions ex: What is your occupation, What make and model car do you drive, Where were you born etc/ If this was to be a random drawing why do they need this information?

      Then when we get to Atlanta we are put  in a bus and taken across town to a studio where we are assigned seat numbers. Then we are photographed holding the seat numbers.  Why were we assigned seat numbers.Why were we photographed holding our seat numbers? We were then sent away for a couple of hours. When we were brought back we were told to sit in our assigned seats and the "computer" would pick 40 people to advance to the next stage of the Grand Finale. The 40 people who were chosen were given purses that contained either a gold or silver coins. The 20 people with the gold coins advanced to the next stage. Guess who gave out the purses? The lottery staff of course.

      The gold coins had numbers on them and billfolds were passed out according to the numbers. The billfolds with platinium markings advanced to the next round. Then the bubble machine picked 5 numbers that advanced to the next round. Then the  lottery staff pushed the 5 giant 10 ft scratch offs out from behind a curtain in the order they wanted them lined up in, and assigned them to the contestants in the order they pushed them out in. Ex: contestant #1 gets the first card push out, contestant # 2 gets the second card pushed out,

      When the cards were scratched off it left the two final contestants. One with a gold emblem and one with a green emblem. The final stage of the game had two safes. The one with the green emblem to be opened by the contestant who had the green emblemed giant scratch off and this of course was the winner. 

        To add insult to injury this whole thing was being taped and they kept stopping the game and redoing the contestants reactions and making the contestants left sitting in the assigned seats make excited surprised reactions over and over until they got it on tape like they wanted.

      We were trapped we had no way to get back to our cars, we couldn't leave. We were told if we left we wouldn't get of free Falcon tickets.

      IF this was truly a random game why not put all the names in a drum, they way they did the weekly drawings, and pull a name out.

      If it was a contest to see who could answer their questionaire best then we should have been told so.

      In any event there was no reason to keep 76 people confined for an entire day ,10 am till 6pm, for something that should have been done in one hour.

      I don't want to burst your bubble but you were entered into a game that somewhere either on the ticket, their website, or at the stores that sold the tickets. Said if you were chosen as a finalist that you had to fill out a questionnaire, that you had to be present for the final drawing, that your image or likeness would be represented and that you would be a participant in the final drawings goings on.

      In other words all of you that showed up and completed the necessary forms would be a participant of a final drawing. Regardless of what took place thats how it's done. If you had posted this sooner i could have directed you to Maryland lottery website when they had a similar drawing and participant that were chose had to comply with all the rules or be disqualified. That drawing here has taken place and they took off the rules concerning participants in the final drawing. Which were very similar to what you described.

      If you were to be on the Price is Right do you think they tape the show in an hour. They tape 3 shows a day 27 contestants go on stage. 6 contestants per episode. Everyone that works there has the job down pat. On that show they tell people when to laugh, get excited, etc.etc

      When you were chosen for the final lottery drawing you were at an event that had to be taped for maximum effect. So it looked good when they aired the broadcast. 

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        Posted: September 3, 2008, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

        Sprry bout that ---They tape 3 shows a day 18 contestants go on stage.

        Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

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          Posted: September 4, 2008, 1:51 am - IP Logged

          Speculating on truth:  casting aspersions upon the veracity of someone or group who may have provided sufficient reason and cause for doubt.

          Without accuracy, truth is meaningless - unless ill-gotten gains derived thru half-truth compensates situational ethics sufficiently... sufficiently enuff that accuracy is a stone in the shoe only for those who still own a piece of conscience.

          A moral person has a conscience, and acts upon it.

          An immoral person has a conscience and acts on it, selectively.

          An amoral person has no conscience at all.    

          It's another thing to say, I know the truth - enuff too be absolutely sure.

            Is it the lucky ones who can afford to be, sure?

          It has been said: He who suspects the  enemy behind every door has himself stood there, once before.

          What is it then, when it has become norm: They pretend to tell us the truth, and we pretend to believe them?

          It seems sometimes that cynicism is the only refuge for hope.

          I enjoy playing lotto/lottery… hope springs eternal.