Is it unfair to investigate a player just because he plays a lot?
The Colorado Lottery launched an investigation into a repeat winner and his self-described "system" for winning the Cash Five jackpot again and again.
The real reason Tadeusz Krupa wins so often may have nothing to do with luck, skill or cheating. He may just play... a lot.
Krupa splits his time between two modest homes. One houses his ex-wife and children in Brighton. The other is also the office for T&D Polish Imports & Exports, Inc. in Fort Lupton. Inside, there is little evidence Krupa is importing and exporting anything other than his own money into and out of the Colorado Lottery.
The Fort Lupton home office is sparsely furnished: a few chairs, a computer, some papers scattered about the floor and a kitchen pantry filled with stacks of lottery tickets.
The multitude of tickets, along with luck, are the only valid explainations for Krupa's winning ways, say lottery officials.
The Colorado Lottery investigated when other lottery players complained that Krupa and his immediate family had won $1,000 or more in Colorado's Cash 5 game a total of 21 times since December 2007.
His $158,000 haul, before taxes, includes seven $20,000 jackpots.
"We know that this gentlemen didn't scam the system," said Colorado Lottery Deputy Director Tom Kitts.
Kitts says lottery investigators interviewed the Krupa family and store employees where the winning tickets were bought. Kitts says there is no sign of any wrongdoing.
"It was just an unusual occurance," said Kitts. "My best guess is this gentlemen and his family probably play quite a bit... there's been an incredible streak of luck here as well."
"I have a system," said Krupa.
"It is up here," he added, tapping his forehead.
"If anyone claims to have a system, they may believe they have a system, but we certainly don't believe there is such a thing," said Kitts.
Krupa says he searches for "winning numbers" on the Internet, then fills out thousands of playing tickets by hand. Store clerks say Krupa has been known to buy thousands of dollars worth of tickets a week.
Krupa claims he has won more than he has spent. There is no way to prove it. The Colorado Lottery does not track individuals' purchases.
He often gives his winning tickets to family members to redeem and the lottery does not track winners of less than $1,000, so it is impossible to put an exact total on his winnings.
Krupa was nonchalant when asked about the idea of luck.
"Maybe," he said with a shrug.
Krupa says he is taking a few months off from playing the lottery.
While he plays thousands of number combinations at a time, Krupa says he has a set of "lucky numbers", and offered to share them if anyone is interested: 8, 12, 16, 22 and 27.
Krupa claims his first lottery win was also his largest, a $500,000 jackpot in his native Poland three decades ago.
The real reason Tadeusz Krupa wins so often may have nothing to do with luck, skill or cheating. He may just play... a lot.
Thanks to LckyLary for being the first to send the tip.
very skillful player,. i believe you , cheat how is he can cheat LC you going down,. Keep it up my friend
I think this is great! I think other people are just jealous that he keeps winning.He does spend quite a bit on the games. More power to him.
I agree. I think there may be a bit of jealousy going on, since he wins a lot. It also sounds like he spends a lot of money to get those wins.
Hahaha the lottery cant do nothing to him, he won those fair and square. :) Though his system dont sound all that good lol
Why is he being dragged through the mud? He has not been accused of anything, never mind charged or convicted. The lottery should not have revealed his identity until it had some evidence of wrong-doing. If someone is involved in fraud they should be investigated and if there is evidence, they should be charged, and if convicted, punished.
Just because someone wins a lot it does not mean he is doing something wrong. Innocent unlit proven guilty. I hope he sues the lottery for defamation and wins!
Colorado Lottery should have look at it privately instead of blasting the man name all over the country. Really,sound like some haters at the Colorado Lottery office.
Joe the Lottery winner.
If you have a system and WIN more then you spend Then its a good System. How many People do you know can say they win more then they spend. DO YOU
"The Colorado Lottery investigated when other lottery players complained..." (emphasis, mine)
Keep "other players" out of your business.
No word yet on why other players are such losers (take that how you wish).
Colorado Cash 5 and Lotto both are 'Draw Method: Computer Random Number Generator.'
https://www.lotterypost.com/game/10
https://www.lotterypost.com/game/11
Hats off Mr. Krupa you're beating 'em at their own behind closed doors game!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
Casinos do this all the time - they do not have to have a reason to kick you out but winning more than you lose consistently is probably in the top 3 reasons players are blacklisted. If I was this player and his family, I'd be looking for the best attorney out there. What I love is the self-serving justification - they are investigating a man who could not possibly have a system to beat the system but he deserves to be investigated- isn't there an oxymoron in there somewhere?
There are people who win frequently for any number of reasons. This should serve as fair warning to all of us who play to win - the lotteries we play have virtually unlimited money to make us the posterchild for 'this person wins a lot so he/she must be doing something illegal." Every transaction is recorded, many videotaped. Having multiple wins, especially on a single drawing, can be a nightmare if you don't think it out ahead of time - ways to cash the tickets discretely, not all at same place, same time, same person, etc. If you have multiple less than taxable wins, they all add up to a big taxable win. Yes they do. Think because the next news story here on LP may have your face plastered all over it.
You gotta find some humor in this though. I'd love to see their faces if they knew what I know about the 'ability' to know what's going to fall before it does. Makes me want to move to CO.
"Krupa says he searches for "winning numbers" on the Internet, thenfills out thousands of playing tickets by hand. Store clerks say Krupahas been known to buy thousands of dollars worth of tickets a week."
Wonder if he stops by LP?
Colorado also has the PowerBall, maybe one day we'll read about Tadeusz Krupa winning it several times. Now that would really get a lot of people attention,especially with the new odds.
This just goes to show you that with a lot of patience and some luck that anything can be accomplished! Congratulations to him and his family.
In response to myturn:
It didn't sound like he was being drug through the mud. "We know that this gentlemen didn't scam the system," said Colorado Lottery Deputy Director Tom Kitts. "It was just an unusual occurance," said Kitts. "My best guess is this gentlemen and his family probably play quite a bit... there's been an incredible streak of luck here as well."
Looks like you might want to read the story again. Doesn't sound like the lottery suspects him of anything. Just unusual that he has won so much. It would be irresponsible if they did not investigate. He's probably one of their best customer. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands he spends on lottery. Whoever wrote this story I'm sure needed his permission to release his info...I'm just guessing. The Lottery isn't always the bad guy! People seem to think that all too often.
Not to mention a little bit of capital
Something with intelligence is that there are people that find hard/complex things easy, yet the easy stuff they found it hard, there are people like that it has to do with the brain...Remember the name of that condition i can't recall the name of it where kids have super memory or can do extraordinary things but cant tie their shoes or take care of themselves, well there are people like that but they are fine is just that the brain tills that way a little...Think of it as someone that should have gotten that condition but didnt get it...
This dude apparently has a gift but he is playing the wrong game to me..The best thing to do in my opinion if you have such a gift is play pick3 or pick4 [assuming he does spends quite of money on the system, and assuming he has a system/gift] but play pick3 or pick4 and play the same numbers 10 or 20 times straight...For example, 20 times 5,000 straight on pick4 is 100,000 dollars or 20 times 2,500 straightboxed is 50,000...But the problem with this is that you will have to be sure the numbers are comming or you will have to be doing some good tracking...However, not many people know that actually pick5 is easier than pick4 and the reason is that one is a combination game the other one is a permuation game..But to most people pick4 is easier than pick5 because it has less numbers...But again this is only assuming that the guy has a gift...
Is great what he is doing and everything, if he only was a sofware programmer [or hire one] that way he could create a lottery software company, sell it for 200 dollars to the public [since is very good] and make money off of it and not have to depend on the lottery or create a prediction website charge people $2 per month and wait until he gets 3,000 which will be 6,000 a month which will be 72,000 a year without having to depend on the lottery...I think this is what he should do...He needs to take care of himself make sure he doesn't die [car accident, heart attack, etc] because it will be a great loss to the world...
You see i believe in that if you have a windfall[struck of luck] that you didn't do it yourself but instead everybody that met and their emotions influence you to be where you are or get there, kind of like the ramifications of a tree...But i was going to say that this is the reason why people should get money in monthly checks and why Pick5 reward is not a lot of money because it doesnt take care of you for life...I will think that someone with 500,000 will have his housed paid and car and money saved for the kids when they go into college...And the rest saved up for later....And 500,000 in the 80's was like 900,000 dollars [he said 30 years ago]....
I think some of the readers are comparing Colorado Cash5 with other states Cash5 game which are a lot harder and have larger jackpots. For example, Colorado Cash5 is a 5/32 game with odds of 1:201,376 of winning a jackpot of $20K while a game like Rolling Cash5 in Ohio is a 5/39 game with odds of 1:575,757 of winning a jackpot of $100K+. Just like playing other small payout games, spending lots of money on Colorado Cash5 might get you a lot of wins but not a lot of money. Buying all those tickets won Tadeusz Krupa seven jackpots and $158K before taxes while if someone wins the Ohio Rolling Cash5 tonight they would win over $330K before taxes on just this one win.
I am not trying to brag but i wish that guy was reading this, because the only way to crack pick4 is THROUGH my system called: "25's for pick4 & Powerball...etc, etc" [is in one of my blogs]....Is the only way...If you don't use my system YOU WILL FAIL...Again i am not trying to brag, but i didn't say my system has everything what i am saying is my system is an idea where you can and should continue to elaborate and work on it further...
If you're actually winning using your system then it's not bragging, if you're not then it's something else.
It's important to note that he is spending a lot of money. That's ok if you have it to lose...
This doesn't sound like any system to me. He is spending THOUSANDS of dollars playing the game! The odds are so much better in his favor... like throwing horseshoes in a field of pegs .. with thousands of horseshoes being tossed out there, there is a heck of alot more chances to land a win..even if they are 2nd tier prizes. Makes me wonder if the Colorado Lottery will increase their field of numbers
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On a side note, How does he have the patience to hand fill all those tickets ?!?! Is there a way to play thousands of tickets faster instead of handing a stack of tickets to a lottery clerk ?!?
He is my hero.
Yes, able to play a lot at a time really helps with the odds in his favor. Playing this way or playing few numbers and hope for a win is still have the same goal. That is winning!
He should go try larger games, move to New York city and play Mega Million, living it up enjoy life. To me, he is beyond class able to beat the system again and again.
He hit in the homeland for $500K first and he is now here in beautiful, freely taxed America, sowing the seeds of Lady Luckyszweski! Read to the end. 30 years ago he hit for $500k (1979), that in todays dollars is at least 3 Million! So he probably ain't to bad off with his import/export business and can do whatever he wants with his money.
Time*treat hit it right on the nose, nosey friggen people in Colorado, mind your own business. This is the root of Krupas "investigation". Joe the plumber got this looky see for just speaking. If you hate intrusiveness in your life then don't vote Democratic, liberal, or left, 'cause the bell will toll for thee soon enough. You will SEE soon enough.
My system does not work, i can't make it to work, but perhaps someone can use it to extend it or take it a step further...The good thing about my system is that it goes for the numbers straights...Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...If someone can use it and take it a step further, then it will surely be something...Let me rephrase it perhaps it will sound different...If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system...That's all i am saying...
My system does not work, i can't make it to work.......Is a good system but it still needs work to be done on it...
Sounds likes you're still at the same place you were before you ever had a system.
My system does not work
If you want to win Pick4 straight you will have to take into account my system.
Perhaps as a list of what numbers NOT to play. We call that a filter.
LOL
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pumpi @ 12:53 pm: because the only way to crack pick4 is THROUGH my system
pumpi @ 3:38 pm: My system does not work, i can't make it to work,
lay off the pipe dude.
That sounds likes the system I'm already using for my Ohio Rolling Cash5 game. It's a list of the the previous 1417 combinations drawn which I do NOT play and it has only been wrong twice when on 01/04/09 drawing matched all 5 numbers drawn on 06/21/07 and on 12/20/08 when the drawing matched the numbers drawn on 10/12/04.
I wish I'd win so much the Lottery would "investigate" me! Being the typical take-out is 50 percent, to win 150K he'd have had to spend 300K! The system he mentions is searching for winning numbers on the internet... that sounds like, he sees what other Lotteries' winning sets are and played that? Maybe refined it to only study other RNG systems with the same matrix? Or maybe looks up other systems on the internet, or maybe he's just saying that to humor the drive-by media and actually has a "real" System that he's not quick to share! It would be weird if other States' drawings predict those in your home State! The wins are not quite enough to be life-changing so he plans (or planned) to keep winning (note he has others cash in smaller winners). He may have had a filter that required wheeling many numbers. It would be interesting to see some of the non-winning plays. Also unless the profit margin is significant, it might only pay "minimum wage" to manually fill-out all those betslips when you consider time factors. When I won I only played 2 lines. Any System should be backtested over a long time, but how would you backtest a "look for numbers on the internet" algorithm? There may be no clear way to write "software" for that.
One way that he could pull it off also is if he kept a track of Lottery post prediction for that particular game [colorado X game], and add or subtract 2 or 3 numbers i say this because i've noticed that lottery post predictors are a lot of times off by 1 or 2 numbers on the pick5 predictions on different states every week, normally are like less than 5 predictors that are that good...Maybe he picked up the predictions from lottery post predictors and added or subtracted 2 or 3 numbers...Maybe is not LP but a different Prediction website...
i've been saying this for years...
This is a game where playing a couple thousand lines gets you into the ballpark.
This would never work in the PBall, lotto > 6/38 , Mball etc. RJOh is correct again!
You would need millions of lines to get in the ballpark!
Mr. Krupa is in the game HEAVY MAAAAAN........................................... as we say on the streets in these here parts
Pumpi 76........that condition you are speaking of is in medical terms referred to as: "SAVANT."....
The "SAVANTS".....are extrodinarily gifted, to the point of being geniuses in one particular Specialized way, and scientists are still trying to understand the condition. As you mentioned they cannot do simple, easy mundane , everyday things that we take for granted, but have a Genius, and extrodinary gift to accomplish something that the rest of us would have to spend almost a lifeitme of learning to understand and accomplish it.
As for the player in colorado, I too respect and admire the fact that he has found a way or a system that helps him Beat the Odds most everytime he plays.....he's winning fair and square, with a very keen and fined tuned understanding of how to manipulate the "system" . We must all learn how to "Manipulate the System"...then we tooo will win........;..)
He's dancing all the way to the bank,,,,that's Terrific........
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What if the man wanted to remain private? Why would the LC blast his name all over the news to alert robbers to invade his home thinking they will hit the jackpot? That is putting the man in danger. He didn't sign his rights away when he won? Sounds fishy that the LC investigated him. Real fishy.
I know what you are talking about libra926. I've watched some programs on Savants and it's amazing what they are capable of doing, like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8YXZTlwTAU
I remember that. I posted it in a blog entry a long time ago.
What I find funny is -- someone with a "system" that doesn't win -- saying that a person who has won (so many times the state came by to peek in on them) is playing the "wrong" game.
I win $3-7 more often than not when I play MM to total about $50 or so which equates to about a tank of gas...and in these times of crazy gas prices, I'm sure I'm cutting into someone's bottom line. Hope the LC doesn't come after me.
i am afraid a filters alone will not do it...But never say no, but still what i am saying is that the evidence [not actual evidence but manner of speaking] is overwhelming against filters...I am talking about filters on PIck4, not filters on PIck5 or PIck3...
about the guy playing the wrong game, i think i said if he has a gift...If you have a gift, playing other games will come natural...
i also don't believe they should have put his name like that in the open....
what i meant to say is that going at pick4 with filters only will not work, you will fail but you can always try you never know....My system works better than using filters only...However you still have to apply filters to my system...and a lot of it too...but the difference between my system and the rest is that it is not mainly filters....
Not only that but if you was to use my system and take it a step further and link up combinations like on a wheel and if you do them box...You sure will have the wholy grail of lottery...
I think i know,how this guy is winning,but i am not 100% sure.As someone mention already,odds of hitting
cash5 jackpot in Colorado are pretty good.In my state Illinois odds of hitting 100,000$ starting jackpot are
1:575,757 and his ods are 1:201,376.Jackpot is much lower,but odds are much better.Another thing is that
chances to hit 4 out of 5 numbers in cash 5 ( 200$ winner) are 1;1492 and in my state Illinois if you got 4 out
of 5 you get 100$ and chances are 1: 3,387.So it is much different in this case.If he is spending thousands of
dollars,then in my opinion he is using lottery wheel.Lottery post has full wheels for both pick 5 and pick 6
games.This guy can wheel 16 numbers out of 32,and chances are that he can hit that jackpot.16 numbers will
cost him 4,368$.I dont know how much money it will cost to play like 20 or 25 numbers.Even if he hits 3 or 4
of 16 numbers,he will still get his money back.If he hits 4 numbers,then there will be a lot of 4,3 and 2 sets
numbers in this system,and counting all up,you will win more,then you spend.Lastly,in my opinion he doesnt
have any gifts or something.If he would have any gift,he would not spend thousands of dollars,but just few
bucks a day.
There is even more interesting thing.Colorado has 42 numbers in lotto and Illinois has 52 numbers.In
Colorado jackpot starts from 1 million and in Illinois from 2 million.Little lotto in Illinois has 39 numbers and
jackpot starts from 100,000$,so it has almost the same amount of numbers as in Colorado lotto. lol
Bob27 the guy is playing a 5/32 game.
Check this out,
http://www.coloradolottery.com/index.cfm/ID/35/Past-Winners/
I think he's been spreading the wealth Krupa is his last name.
Will they be conducting an investigation on Steve Players winnings??
There are also few different winners in one day which means that isnt hard to hit the jackpot.
I don't know why Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Wyoming, get a game like Colorado Cash5 or Pennsylvania Treasure Hunt or West Virginia Cash25...
That's why i can't stand the lottery because the games they should be doing they don't do...
Thanks for the link. Lots of Krupa's winning! lol. He must have a great system.
Looking through that link I noticed a few people with multiple wins.
I hope Mr. Krupa and his family and friends remember to claim their wins on their Federal taxes, or the next story that we will be reading is how the Grand Jury is investigating his winnings and why the fed is not getting it's cut.
11/29/08 Janina Krupa Brighton $20,000
11/29/08 Janina Krupa Brighton $20,000
11/26/08 Aneta Krupa Brighton $20,000
11/8/08 Tadeusz Krupa Brighton $20,000
11/8/08 Aneta Krupa Brighton $20,000
2/16/08 Tadeusz Krupa Brighton $20,000
12/14/07 Tadeusz Krupa Brighton $20,000
4/6/07 Tadeusz Krupa Maspeth $20,000
If Colorado lottery rules are similar to other states then they withheld 25% of any prizes over $5,000 for federal taxes.
True, but when they file their income taxes, are they claiming their wins. I hope so. I once sat on a grand jury case similar to this.
The other thing that may get him in trouble is that he claims to have an import/export business which the investergaters saw very little signs of.
Having been in the business many years ago, I know that you can accumulate loads of paper work...bills of lading...bills of goods...etc.
Lottery officials have no authority over his business, this is the exact problem starting to happen in the USA we were talking about earlier. I'm sure everybody out there is perfectly transparent and pays all their stuff on time and completely. This busy body friggen mentality by govt. and private citizens is going to start serious problems. This crap is reminiscent of East Germany and the commies being in everybodys' $h1t. This guy left Poland to get away from this. I would get 12 lawyers and sue the hell out of anybody and everybody that has mentioned any of his personal business, I don't get why peoples' names are published to begin with. I was actually surprised when I ran into that link with names on it. I hope he sues big time.
Of course they are claiming their income from winnings that is what W-2Gs are for, you don't claim it, you get audited. What do you care about him paying taxes? It is none of our business, people should worry more about drug dealers and porn merchants paying their taxes, than an immigrant from Poland. This has got to end.
Live and let live.
You don't get it Jarasan, you file the W-2G but you also have to declare it on your tax returns. Been there, done it.
And believe me, two years later, the Maryland State lottery continues to review winners information. I received a letter asking for confirmation of information.
Last, I'm happy that he won. The story just gives off some alarms that he and his benefactors should be alerted to.
Can a lottery player be barred (as in playing the state lottery) after winning consistantly as in the case of the Colorado's 21-time prize winner?
Yeah I do get it, of course you have to declare it, it is income like the W-2 your employer gives you. That is not my point though. Why in the hades do you concern yourself with his import/export business? It has nothing to do with his hitting the 20K a lot. JMO.
From the looks of the winners list, what ever system the Krupa family is using, it includes duplications. I've heard of pick5 and smaller games players who are so sure of their picks, they will play the same combinations several times but they have to be aware not to exceed the payout limits if they win or else they will have spent extra money and gained little.
It's not me Jarasan, it's the FEDS.
The story brings two facts to light.
1) He's winning alot of money (which I hope he's claiming)
2) He has a business that he may be claiming on his income tax returns that may or may not exist.
If he gives them any reason to dove into his finances, let's say, because his winning are public knowledge and his tax returns don't totally reflect all of the monies, Then the Feds will surely pick him apart, starting with the lottery wins then the business.
The story makes it sound like the business doesn"t exist. Claiming a deductible on a home office that doesn't exist is TAX FRAUD.
I hope that none of this is true.
All I'm saying is, don't give the Feds any reason to dove into your private or public life. It could be a nightmare.
What is your obsession with this?
There is absolutely zero basis to think he may not be reporting the prizes, except that we all know that some people don't report some of their income. Similar reasoning means I can safely conclude that you may be a serial killer and have a penchant for animal abuse and porn. FWIW, it's not any public information that would get the IRS involved, it's the notification by the lottery about all of the winnings (for everybody, not just this guy) that are big enough to require withholding. The IRS knows he won the money, and their computer systems mean they would know if his tax return didn't match the record of the winnings.
As for his business, the article says exactly what it says, which is different than informing us of anything useful. There's "little evidence" of the business. Whoop de freaking do. It clearly says he has a computer, and it's a safe bet that he's got at least one phone. What were you expecting? A door that says "manager" next to a magical door that says "Poland" and a 50,000 square foot warehouse in the basement? With a cell phone and a laptop this guy could potentially be responsible for importing a billion dollars worth of goods every year, and his "office" would weigh 5 pounds.
Ky Floyd
My occupation is concerned with saving lives.
As I mentioned before, I spent 18 months on a grand jury. One of the cases that we spent many weeks on happened to be similar. The mistake that the individual made, being that he is giving his tickets to others for what ever reason does send up a red flag to the Feds. People who had received winning ticckets from that individal were brought before us to tell their story about how and why they received the winning tickets.
The Febs actually tracked our person down by the code bar on the tickets. It tracks where the tickets are brought and cashed in.
When the Gov. decided to drop the lottery portion of the investugation, we were informed that his business activities were being investigated and would be brought into another grand jury if they found any tax evasion there.
And...chill out, I'm not obsessed. Just responding to responses made to me.
Thanks for your comments.
There is guy here in D.C. that played six identical lines on a game called Quick Cash a few years ago and hit 6 for 6 (6 X $250,000) with fortune cookie numbers, they changed the game after that. Now it is called D.C. Daily Six and they changed the matrix, cost, and rules after that.
Moral of the story:
The house doesn't like to lose.
Even though they smacked the guy on fed and state taxes, the D.C. Lottery board made it more unlikely that would never happen again. D.C. has computerized draws, wink, wink, nod, nod. F rating.
The ridiculous AP news service thinks D.C. is a state! The D.C. govt makes the Venezuelans, Rod Blago, and the Noriegas look like amateurs!
Other states and the feds aren't far behind.
I would not take any time off from playing,when you are on a roll,keep on rolling on.once you stop,your mind slows down from thinking..................................[rock]
I think the guy has a real luck so often hiting the lottery, but no doubt that he spends a lots of money ,may be even more that he gets back...ANYWAY HIS OWN SYSTEM WORKS... GOOD LUCK TADEUSZ KRUPA!!!
"I'm not obsessed"
Of course you're not. You've just come back yet again to try and defend a suspicion that is comletely unfounded, because, well, I don't know.
Why are you so angry about my reponses to Jarasan. Do you know the person who is in this article. Like you or anyone else on this, I review threads over and over again. And if a question or comment is presented or addressed to me I will try to repond. That's only, the polite thing to do, unless the conversation starts to get rediculous and then it's time to ignore it.
Thanks again KY Floyd.
Mr Krupa rocks ,congratulations on you're wins
When they claim to be for the little guy, they are really for making sure he stays that way.
Are they saying the state lottery's are rigged?