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Can anyone provide a list of which states use random number generators and conventional ball machines? Or, at minimum, tell me how to go about gathering this information? I'm beginning another phase of screening all my drawings and would like to find similarities and differences between the two methods. I keep seeing some very strange results between several specific states. Thanks for any information provided!!

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    Can anyone provide a list of which states use random number generators and conventional ball machines? Or, at minimum, tell me how to go about gathering this information? I'm beginning another phase of screening all my drawings and would like to find similarities and differences between the two methods. I keep seeing some very strange results between several specific states. Thanks for any information provided!!

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    All here at the State Lottery Report Card who's running computerized fake draws and who's not.

    http://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp

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      Not trying to a smartarse. But I believe that it is all luck and no "system" will work....

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        Not trying to a smartarse. But I believe that it is all luck and no "system" will work....

        MarkP

        Hi Mark! Thanks for the no-nonsense reply and I will address this later this evening. This sort of thing is what drives me and keeps me developing my system(s) more each day.

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          Today's quote: "Money often costs too much to make it". Whoa, what a blow!!!

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            Hi Mark. I have the utmost respect for your opinion and sincerely welcome it! For my opening statement I will simply say this, "If you don't learn to think outside of the box, then you'll always be trapped in it...with everybody else". Now, I'll assume that you've already read my opening post of this thread where the definition of system resides. This is the very basis by which you must approach Pick3 if you want consistence of wins or losses for that matter.

            The reason I include losses is because when you lose by the same approach that you win, the system has been established and produces those results based on the same method applied. All over this website, you'll find that everyone knows there are only 1,000 total combinations for Pick3. Is it unreasonable to fathom the idea of taking 600-700 of those and developing a mathematical approach to duplicate what the numbers are already doing and be consistent at it?

            I think not. See, the closer you get to producing all the possible combinations the closer you get to matching whatever is drawn. Now, there is a catch to this. You must know which combinations to duplicate as well as how mant "flex" combinations to include in case of a shift of the scale which I've also covered. There several ways to develop a system which will work consistently as long as you understand how to approach the numbers. Most of the players here rely on what the numbers "aren't" doing as I play on what they "are" doing.

            Luck prevails when you don't play near enough numbers or just random numbers on a whim and still get a hit from time to time, okay. Luck prevails when you don't know what's gonna happen with the numbers that you've played and you actually win. Luck prevails when you play for pairs or boxed and get a str8 win, okay. Nothing wrong with any of this except it's very inconsistent and between the time of this win and the next one you're back to square one. Why? No consistency.

            Think about it this example: You see a nice color in which you'd like to paint your car or truck and you go to the paint shop for to have it mixed. To get that same color, there is a formula...a system of procedures and ingredients to duplicate that mixture. Correct? If the mixer deviated from the formula he'd get a different color wouldn't he? At the very least, a different shade. He tries it again with yet another deviation and get's a different result from the first one. A system produces an expected result based on specific input. No if's, and's, or but's about it.

            If a person doesn't know what type of win they will land, there is no real system involved and this isn't meant to be arrogant, y, or sarchastic. I'm just a realist when it comes to working this game for money. Before I got things together financially so I could play the required set of numbers, I used to gamble on small sets of numbers, too. Thing is, when I lost, I knew where I was likely to lose. Noon else here can make this statement. If I were to play pairs, I'd know which pairs I'm going to match and where. If I were to play boxed, I'd know which numbers would be in which positions.

            This is the reliability that a true system delivers along with consistent and dependable profits. I like knowing I'm going to win when I go in and how. Structure is very important when it comes to this game and with it comes ways on how to make your wins easier and better. Without it, you're constantly trying to figure out how to win the way you did three weeks ago. As always, this is just my .02 cents. How ironic is it that this same .02 cents generates me $250 in one day at will? Break out of the box, Mark. There's light outside of the box. Believe me...

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              Posted: August 27, 2009, 10:39 am - IP Logged

              Good morning, good morning, and good morning! I hope everyone fares well with their picks and I do mean that sincerely. However, since this is a teaching thread, I must be consistent with my realism in today's quote which is as follows:

              Lottery:  A tax on people who are bad at math.  ~Author Unknown

              And, no, I didn't say this but it definitely has its' merit...in a BIG way.

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                Not trying to a smartarse. But I believe that it is all luck and no "system" will work....

                MarkP

                There is no luck involved when the payoff odds are the same as the odds for or against something happening. By playing 600 numbers, the odds of Match winning are 3/2 in Match's favor and by playing online and getting $900 to $1, the payoff odds are 2/3. It's similar to the "free odds" bet in Casino Craps. It breaks down to 600 ways to win against 400 ways to lose and Match is actually "laying odds" by betting $150 to win $75.

                If Match plays the same 600 numbers and bets the same in 1000 drawings, they will lose the 7% house edge but that's not what they are doing. Most players think in terms of winning millions for a buck and Match's method should show a much smaller but consistent profit.


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                  There is no luck involved when the payoff odds are the same as the odds for or against something happening. By playing 600 numbers, the odds of Match winning are 3/2 in Match's favor and by playing online and getting $900 to $1, the payoff odds are 2/3. It's similar to the "free odds" bet in Casino Craps. It breaks down to 600 ways to win against 400 ways to lose and Match is actually "laying odds" by betting $150 to win $75.

                  If Match plays the same 600 numbers and bets the same in 1000 drawings, they will lose the 7% house edge but that's not what they are doing. Most players think in terms of winning millions for a buck and Match's method should show a much smaller but consistent profit.

                  It's the Stack-Meister!!! What's up, man? Thanks for the piggy back on this post and he was just being very honest because he doesn't understand the art of "eclipsing" the preset odds of Pick3 @ 1 in 1000. Turn this around with playing in the neighborhood of 3/4 of the total numbers with a duplicating system and you produce winners. It's really not rocket science at all.

                  Lotteries don't bank on local players wagering lots of numbers to get that str8 payout at $500 to $1. If one would just be patient enough and catch those ideal draws when they form up, making a clear $100 can be done. But, with the payout involved, you have to be very, very biased with the draw you play because the number count is limited by the profit you want to make.

                  Hey, I've played 450 numbers str8 just to make $50 in profit many times in the past. I couldn't do it everyday, though. Only when the conditions were right and conducive to my system. In a nutshell, you only allow the retailer to "borrow" your money temporarily while you make your money. You go back and collect and everybody is happy.

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                    I forgot to add one more tidbit of information which applies to most anything you can think. You typically get out of something as much as you put into it be it time, money, or a combination of both. Some may say it's crazy to go to multiple retailers to play all the tickets required to win. It's an investment of your time as well as your money to make more money, people. Something for nothing or for very little DOES HAPPEN in Pick3 but, it happens few and far between the next time it occurs.

                    I actually had fun going to different stores doing my thing because I met a few others that had the same idea and we'd always see each other. Play .50 cents to start and work your way up if nothing else as this is a slow process that produces patience and wisdom. This also applies to those who post predictions on the LP board. Hey, there's no need to post every single time there's a draw unless it suites your system for the match.

                    This increases your hit ratio automatically unless you have to post a certain number of predictions as a particular level of member. Five ideal draws that net five hits for a given system equals a 100% hit ratio. It's just like baseball. Just something to think about in an effort to make better players. My .02 cents.

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                      Well, it's almost time for the numbers to come down!! 'Round and 'round she goes!!!! Who's system is truly working??? Only YOU know...Good luck on all picks!!!

                      Today's informative quote: It is easier to perceive error than to find truth, for the former lies on the surface and is easily seen, while the latter lies in the depth, where few are willing to search for it.

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                        What i really like to know? Do we put together a system for recongition or profit..., What is this,  a game ? We've spent a great amount of time talking about this  system.  No, i mean no one have spoke of any success. If it works for 1.00 then the same thing would work for any amount, is that right? I must be misinformed.  I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT A TRUE SYSTEM,  LIKE ZERO % RISK ?  I HATE TO SOUND SO SELFISH , I DO NEED    some HELP.       JUST TO GET MY HEAD OUT OF THE WATER.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Jeff


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                          What i really like to know? Do we put together a system for recongition or profit..., What is this,  a game ? We've spent a great amount of time talking about this  system.  No, i mean no one have spoke of any success. If it works for 1.00 then the same thing would work for any amount, is that right? I must be misinformed.  I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT A TRUE SYSTEM,  LIKE ZERO % RISK ?  I HATE TO SOUND SO SELFISH , I DO NEED    some HELP.       JUST TO GET MY HEAD OUT OF THE WATER.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Jeff

                          Hi Jeff. I'll try and answer this the best I can. When you're dealing with Pick3, you want to develop a system strictly for profit unless you're just in it for kicks every now and then. Recognition is a direct product of success and profit is the result of them both. Bragging rights mean nothing if you can't be consistent with what you do because it's pure luck when you can't. On that same token, I'd rather be lucky than good any day when it comes to gambling but, one can be very skilled with this game because of its' ability to be contained.

                          Go back and read, very carefully, the details of playing this game in the first few pages of this thread for me, okay, and I'm not trying to insinuate anything here. THERE IS ALWAYS A RISK WHEN GAMBLING NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE. Pick3 allows you to minimize the risk by playing lots of numbers for a smaller but consistent profit. This may sound ridiculous but, you must consider the facts and whole idea of this method.

                          Small consistent profits allow you to recover your invesment, even if playing state, and allow you to ultimately use the state's money to "put up" and still make your money. Let this soak in and I'll get back with you later.

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                                I Like this quote I dislike this quoteDo the one thing you think you cannot do. Fail at it. Try again. Do better the second time. The only people who never tumble are those who never mount the high wire. This is your moment. Own it.
                             Mofee123

                             Oprah Winfrey

                            I, personally, have been "thrown from the horse" many a time in the past. This is how I learned how to "break the horse" so I could stay on and enjoy the ride. If you're afraid to get thrown then you're afraid to ride...and horses can most definitely sense fear.

                            Yeah, I know. This is very deep...but, also very true. I learned to be a "contender" instead of a "pretender" and a "confident loser" instead of an "uncertain winner". There is a difference...

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                              Someone asked, "How do I know if I have a true system"? It's based on the conditions of the draw and how you must approach it. Typically, one looks for something in particular that's a "baseline" for their candidate which will then require the rest of the system to be applied as required. This is very much like hunting...one has to be patient to get the ideal kill. More importantly, one has to be within range of their marksmanship.

                              Even the best long distance sniper in the world opts for the shortest and easiest shot available and must follow a systematic approach to get their hit, too. Wind speed, wind direction, timing, round acceleration and drop off. The closer you can get to your target, the less these factors matter...no way around it.

                              "Tradition is what you resort to when you don't have the time or the money to do it right."Kurt Herbert Alder


                              Since we have more time than money, then let us simply take our time to save our money and do a thing right...

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