NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: January 7, 2010, 11:09 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on December 31, 2009

"Recently I read about a mathematician who wondered if one coulddetermine the shape of a drum by listening only to the sound the drummade when struck. As it turned out, he could."

After listening to somebody play a drum for a minute or an hour, can he tell us which of the other 175 million drums will be played next?

That depends, KY Floyd. Is there a physical system involved which determines the next drum to be played? If so, then there may be a way to predict the next drum to be played.

What will be needed is information about that physical system, which is why I posted this thread.

Ohio United States Member #49980 February 21, 2007 34096 Posts Offline

Posted: February 8, 2010, 10:39 am - IP Logged

I was watching this math Teacher on the news, she is about to retire, and she said when a person is trying to do a problem in Numbers or Math show the proof! I think she is about right!

Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s. Flip 6=9 `9=6 Bullseyes 0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5 Play the other part of doubles. Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5* or 0 thur 9 for P. 4 P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days. Good Luck All.

NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: February 8, 2010, 10:18 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by marcie on February 8, 2010

I was watching this math Teacher on the news, she is about to retire, and she said when a person is trying to do a problem in Numbers or Math show the proof! I think she is about right!

The "proof" you speak of says the lottory can not be predicted. And this is true. There is no proof that an algorithm can predict a random draw.

In fact, according to Quantum Physics, there is only one way to predict the furture and that is with the use of wave functions. Unfortunately a wave function incorporates all possible outcomes and is only "solved" when the answer becomes manifest. What use is an equation when the answer can only be discerned after the fact?

Mathematical proofs are not what we are after. What we want is a strategy that makes playing the lottory profitable. We use math to find that strategy. Proofs are not required when looking for a strategy.

Ohio United States Member #49980 February 21, 2007 34096 Posts Offline

Posted: February 9, 2010, 5:56 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on February 8, 2010

The "proof" you speak of says the lottory can not be predicted. And this is true. There is no proof that an algorithm can predict a random draw.

In fact, according to Quantum Physics, there is only one way to predict the furture and that is with the use of wave functions. Unfortunately a wave function incorporates all possible outcomes and is only "solved" when the answer becomes manifest. What use is an equation when the answer can only be discerned after the fact?

Mathematical proofs are not what we are after. What we want is a strategy that makes playing the lottory profitable. We use math to find that strategy. Proofs are not required when looking for a strategy.

Ok, I guess that make some sense. But I can predit a number but don't always know the State. Mayority of the times, you all use a Stystem I don't. but I could if I wanted to. since I have got these books tht this nice Lady on Lotterypost sent me. I think I will start using it. thanks for you input.

Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s. Flip 6=9 `9=6 Bullseyes 0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5 Play the other part of doubles. Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5* or 0 thur 9 for P. 4 P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days. Good Luck All.

NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: March 6, 2010, 9:01 am - IP Logged

On some other thread I suggested to one member that he/she input the numbers manually. He/she wanted a way to take a number format such as 1-2-3-4-5 and put each number in a single cell using Excel. I suggested they do just the opposite and type in each number slowly. Why slowly? So they might be able to see a pattern.

The other day I took my own advice. I deleted all 4,900 and then some Georgia drawn numbers. Using their website, I manually typed in each and every date and number. I did so slowly. And did I find something? Perhaps.

I noticed a lot of draws that contain a number evenly divisible by 5.

After I had all the draws into Excel, I wrote a short program to determine which draws had such a number ( 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35). Much to my surprise about 65% of the draws contained a number evenly divisible by 5.

While this may not seem much to most of us (myself included), I am posting this "fact" here in the hopes that others who have noticed something similiar might add to the list.

Chicago United States Member #70678 February 8, 2009 889 Posts Offline

Posted: March 6, 2010, 1:27 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on March 6, 2010

On some other thread I suggested to one member that he/she input the numbers manually. He/she wanted a way to take a number format such as 1-2-3-4-5 and put each number in a single cell using Excel. I suggested they do just the opposite and type in each number slowly. Why slowly? So they might be able to see a pattern.

The other day I took my own advice. I deleted all 4,900 and then some Georgia drawn numbers. Using their website, I manually typed in each and every date and number. I did so slowly. And did I find something? Perhaps.

I noticed a lot of draws that contain a number evenly divisible by 5.

After I had all the draws into Excel, I wrote a short program to determine which draws had such a number ( 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35). Much to my surprise about 65% of the draws contained a number evenly divisible by 5.

While this may not seem much to most of us (myself included), I am posting this "fact" here in the hopes that others who have noticed something similiar might add to the list.

This reminds me of the book Lottery Numbers Past, Present and Future by Harry Schneider. He talks about the lines being divisible by different numbers. In most of his examples he uses the UK National Lottery.

United States Member #567 August 14, 2002 482 Posts Offline

Posted: March 9, 2010, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

The lottery is completely random. For powerball and mega millions, the odds against you winning the jackpot are astronomical, and the drawings are random every time. Winning the jackpot is a matter of luck!

Smart lottery winners form trust to claim their winnings. They send an attorney to the lottery headquarters to claim the prize in trust, so that ONLY the name of the trust is revealed. And they tell NO ONE, especially relatives.

If you ever win a lottery and you are single, the only person you should ever marry is someone who was truly in love with you BEFORE you won the jackpot!

NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: March 16, 2010, 12:59 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by rundown99 on March 9, 2010

The lottery is completely random. For powerball and mega millions, the odds against you winning the jackpot are astronomical, and the drawings are random every time. Winning the jackpot is a matter of luck!

You know, rundown99, I do not disagree with what you are saying. What I do find loathsome is your refusal to allow others the freedom to consider alternatives.

Earthquakes are random too. That does not stop geologists from studying them, collecting data, looking for clues that would make predicting earthquakes an exact science. Look what geologists have done with volcanoes! Not thirty years ago volcanoes were also considered a random event. Now we can predict within days when one is about to "blow". Of course I am thinking of Mount Saint Helen.

So most of us here look for clues that would make predicting the lotto somewhat more exact than what we have now. What could possibly be wrong with that?

United States Member #13130 March 30, 2005 2171 Posts Offline

Posted: March 16, 2010, 11:49 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on March 6, 2010

On some other thread I suggested to one member that he/she input the numbers manually. He/she wanted a way to take a number format such as 1-2-3-4-5 and put each number in a single cell using Excel. I suggested they do just the opposite and type in each number slowly. Why slowly? So they might be able to see a pattern.

The other day I took my own advice. I deleted all 4,900 and then some Georgia drawn numbers. Using their website, I manually typed in each and every date and number. I did so slowly. And did I find something? Perhaps.

I noticed a lot of draws that contain a number evenly divisible by 5.

After I had all the draws into Excel, I wrote a short program to determine which draws had such a number ( 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35). Much to my surprise about 65% of the draws contained a number evenly divisible by 5.

While this may not seem much to most of us (myself included), I am posting this "fact" here in the hopes that others who have noticed something similiar might add to the list.

FWIW, out of 575,757 combos, 374,381 contain at least one value divisible by 5. 374,381 / 575,757 = 65.02%

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NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: March 16, 2010, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on March 16, 2010

FWIW, out of 575,757 combos, 374,381 contain at least one value divisible by 5. 374,381 / 575,757 = 65.02%

That makes sense. In looking at the Georgia P5 game, a number divisible by 5 has occured 59% of the time during the last year. That corrresponds very closely to what theory (your idea above) predicts.

NASHVILLE, TENN United States Member #33372 February 20, 2006 1044 Posts Offline

Posted: March 17, 2010, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on March 16, 2010

FWIW = for what it's worth.

Sometimes we see things that look like they are happening alot, when they are really just happening along mathematical expectation.

These mathematical expectations is precisely what I want. Might you have a few with which you are willing to share? I really need about two more, just not the one "divisible by x". I have one of those.