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# Let's create a "So what" test

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Zeta Reticuli Star System
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This will apply to all games and not just Systems or Mathematics so I'm putting it here.

Let's develop a "So what" test that can be used to measure the possible credibility or practicality of a lot of things we read here on LP or here from other lottery players.

This could also be used to really take a good look at some of the "systems" that the mail order schlock meisters try and sell.

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Someone tells you that one ceretain digit hasn't hit the Pick 3 in such and such a state for so many draws.

SO WHAT.

Is there any state that pays for one digit.

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Someone tells you how many H/L or E/O or "O/I" (Outside/ insdie, perimeter) numbers have hit a jackpot game for so many draws.

SO WHAT.

Is any state booking action on this? Is it an option on any playslips?

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Someone selling a so called system bases their theory on the results of drawings 16 years or so ago.

SO WHAT.

With the advent of the internet anyone can develop a theory first and then research until they have come up with something to supposedly back it up. Know this.

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Someone says that their picks hit so much in a certain time frame. Then you find out their picks were all the Pick 3 non-doubles or triples boxed, or all the Mega Balls or Powerballs and they shelled out more than they won, just for bragging rights.

SO WHAT

Collecting less than you bet is not a win.

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tbc.....

Post any ideas you have along these lines.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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 Posted: November 27, 2010, 11:28 am - IP Logged

so what if I filled out the ticket wrong I still would have won. not

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

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 Posted: November 27, 2010, 12:06 pm - IP Logged

Yes! I get you Coin, I  must admit you are write about these so what's!!

Especially the one digit that has not showed in a gazillion days, ...So what, it does not help me a bit!!!LOL

Here is another so what that makes me laugh sometimes!

So what, You tell me you missed by one???!!  So what!!

Now, does it count??

*Jr\$ina

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Counterpoint:

People spend hours dissecting data and post ideas in hopes of helping others.

SO WHAT.

They didn't give me the exact numbers and day and won't fill out my playslip.

People spend hours dissecting data and post ideas in hopes of helping others.

SO WHAT.

It only takes two seconds to say, "That won't work."

People take the time to post their predictions and actually WIN!

SO WHAT.

Any set of numbers had the same chance of hitting.

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Counterpoint:

People spend hours dissecting data and post ideas in hopes of helping others.

SO WHAT.

They didn't give me the exact numbers and day and won't fill out my playslip.

People spend hours dissecting data and post ideas in hopes of helping others.

SO WHAT.

It only takes two seconds to say, "That won't work."

People take the time to post their predictions and actually WIN!

SO WHAT.

Any set of numbers had the same chance of hitting.

garyo, I am one of those who  check history sheet and have helped some...too bad you did not benefit...

but as you say and I agree... so what!!!

Now, does it count??

*Jr\$ina

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garyo, I am one of those who  check history sheet and have helped some...too bad you did not benefit...

but as you say and I agree... so what!!!

Oh, but I did!

You can't imagine the warm feeling I get when I read happy posts like you and RD and tiggs and pumpi.

Those are the driving force that keeps us all looking for ways to improve our chances, and often I go back to reread some of the humor and banter you guys put out, just to rid myself of the bad taste left by the naysayers.

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Yes!! Yes!!  garyo!!!  Okay, so to all the nay Sayers we say...So What!!!  We will Play ON!!!...LOl.. Group hug.

Now, does it count??

*Jr\$ina

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ridge won a million sully won a million jrosina won a million and tiggs won nothing...SO WHAT!!..This is just a joke kids..:)..Just in case...:0...

Pure luck

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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garyo1954,

You're pretty well missing the point.

Considering all the knowledge here, all the proposed systems and theories, all the "I thinks", "What ifs", number of people on this site, over 100,000 now and who knows hopw many lurkers, and no telling how many tickets played on any given draw date, where's a jackpot?

Therr is one member who hit a Pick 5 twice some time back, but other than that we have a lot of "telling a hair raising story to a blad headed man".

In the OP I mentioned mail order shlock peddlers seeling "systems". The idea of this thread was to give people a heads up before paying through the nose fo what amounts to garbage, and just to finance some degenerate's to make more money so they can play more.

Think of it this way, if you were trying to sell lotto information to what you know was an informed target market, would you make some of the statements some system sellers do?

Las Vegas casino saying

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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 Posted: November 27, 2010, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

ridge won a million sully won a million jrosina won a million and tiggs won nothing...SO WHAT!!..This is just a joke kids..:)..Just in case...:0...

Tiggs...We are not about to "so what you"  or any  others who are waiting to see the proof of the pudding!! Just hold on It's coming and when it does,  just don't say  "so what?" , just because it's not you  Be happy for them for real!! Okay???

Now, does it count??

*Jr\$ina

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garyo1954,

You're pretty well missing the point.

Considering all the knowledge here, all the proposed systems and theories, all the "I thinks", "What ifs", number of people on this site, over 100,000 now and who knows hopw many lurkers, and no telling how many tickets played on any given draw date, where's a jackpot?

Therr is one member who hit a Pick 5 twice some time back, but other than that we have a lot of "telling a hair raising story to a blad headed man".

In the OP I mentioned mail order shlock peddlers seeling "systems". The idea of this thread was to give people a heads up before paying through the nose fo what amounts to garbage, and just to finance some degenerate's to make more money so they can play more.

Think of it this way, if you were trying to sell lotto information to what you know was an informed target market, would you make some of the statements some system sellers do?

Las Vegas casino saying

Mail order shlock peddlers?

SO WHAT.

I Ignore them. Over the years, I written, rewritten, modified, junked, and started over so many times I would never feel comfortable selling  my stuff. There is always more to do and more to add and another routine you want to work on. So I agree with you CT.

Nobody has posted a big win?

SO WHAT.

With all the scammers searching the internet for victims I would be wary of posting anything that lead them to my door. To expand on your idea of target market, this would be a good place to relieve someone of their windfall with the right idea.

I do agree with you on some, won't say false, but call them misleading claims, made by a few. I pray to God I never make false claims or offer less than factual data. Often I run files several times and use a calculator to see if the totals match before posting. This is the reason it takes so long for me to make posts. I want to be accurate and truthful.

SO WHAT.

At times I do get excited on a new idea. My fingers are slower than my brain and I enter dyslexic numbers.

Overall I agree with everything you stated. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who post stuff which may not be stellar but it shows a propensity to learn and that makes me want to help if I can.

When I do hit more than a pick three straight, and decide it was worth the trouble, I think I would notifiy Todd and let him post it. That way I have someone running interference and keeping the peace.

Just my 2 cents, we agree in so many ways.

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Tiggs...We are not about to "so what you"  or any  others who are waiting to see the proof of the pudding!! Just hold on It's coming and when it does,  just don't say  "so what?" , just because it's not you  Be happy for them for real!! Okay???

Lighen up just a taaaaaad bit...

Pure luck

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I won 2,000 dollars last night but I forgot to post my numbers   .................  SO WHAT !!!  from what I have figured out . The winners are not posting on the forum at all..

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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 Posted: November 27, 2010, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

Folks,

How many lurkers do you think this board has? How many people who are indeed shlock peddlers and come here to get ideas?

I'm not going to mention any specific threads but at any given time there are always some discussions here that would be a systems seller's or a lottery director's "wet dream".

He who has ears let him hear.

The Bible

Those who know don't need to be told, those who don't know seldom listen.

Tao Te Ching

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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Folks,

How many lurkers do you think this board has? How many people who are indeed shlock peddlers and come here to get ideas?

I'm not going to mention any specific threads but at any given time there are always some discussions here that would be a systems seller's or a lottery director's "wet dream".

He who has ears let him hear.

The Bible

Those who know don't need to be told, those who don't know seldom listen.

Tao Te Ching

PLENTY of lurkers/guests. Sometimes I come in and read without logging in. A few times lately I have been working on other things and forgot I was logged in. Hard to say a number but Lottery Post tops most of the search engines, so not hard to imagine quite a few.

Schlock peddlers....hard to say why they visit. I would imagine they initially come to sclupt their schlock. Not hard to catch. Most aren't going to follow the old advertising gimmick of posing a problem and providing a solution like a toothpaste, shampoo, or Swiffer commercial. More like:

NewHandle#1(registered 10 mintues ago): Has anybody tried GreatestSuperDuperMostExcellentNumberPicker?

NewHandle#2 (registered 5 minutes ago): Yes, it is really good! I use it all the time. So Easy to use! Try it for free atfdfdsgflkdslwrsfn.dtgjsfg

Creative system sellers frequent this place as sock puppets and lurkers.

SO WHAT.

I laugh at these posts. I can't seriously believe someone just registered to ask that, or that someone else just registered to reply.