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Posted: November 28, 2010, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

Since you are on Zeta Reticuli somebody has to volunteer to bring you up to speed on how Pick 3 is played.

If you KNOW ONE NUMBER and add it to ever possible two combination in some form, you get 36 singles/unmatched numbers, 18 doubles, and 1 triple.

Playing these 55 combinations at a minimum over the counter, fifty cents a set, you spend $27.50.

A single in Texas pays $40, a double $80, the triple $250.

That's it.

garyo1954,

Your "That's it" does not tell the whole story.

Even on Zeta Reticuli we know that there are going to be days when you lose the $27.50

This is typical of what a system seller would write, conveniently making no mention of the losing days or of consecutive losing days turning your play into "catch up football'.

The most common hit result being a single that pays $40, after two losing days you "win" and you're stuck $15.

A man woke up in the middle of the night doubled over in pain. He went to the emergency room and the doctor who examined him told him it was no big deal, he was born with three testicles and the third one had just descended. There was a simple procedure to take care of it.

The guy said, "Procedure? Doc, I'm a player and have been waiting for something like this all my life."

He went to the closest tavern. There was only one other customer this late at night, and he bet the guy that between him and the bar tender they had five testicles. The guy said that this was so ridiculous he would take him up on it, and put two Benjamins on the counter.

All the whle the bartender was trying to get the first guy's attention, but it never happened. When he finally looked at him, the bartender said, "Buddy, I hope you were born with four of them"

Moral of the story:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LOCK.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

    garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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    garyo1954,

    Your "That's it" does not tell the whole story.

    Even on Zeta Reticuli we know that there are going to be days when you lose the $27.50

    This is typical of what a system seller would write, conveniently making no mention of the losing days or of consecutive losing days turning your play into "catch up football'.

    The most common hit result being a single that pays $40, after two losing days you "win" and you're stuck $15.

    A man woke up in the middle of the night doubled over in pain. He went to the emergency room and the doctor who examined him told him it was no big deal, he was born with three testicles and the third one had just descended. There was a simple procedure to take care of it.

    The guy said, "Procedure? Doc, I'm a player and have been waiting for something like this all my life."

    He went to the closest tavern. There was only one other customer this late at night, and he bet the guy that between him and the bar tender they had five testicles. The guy said that this was so ridiculous he would take him up on it, and put two Benjamins on the counter.

    All the whle the bartender was trying to get the first guy's attention, but it never happened. When he finally looked at him, the bartender said, "Buddy, I hope you were born with four of them"

    Moral of the story:

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LOCK.

    CT you misread YOUR OWN STATEMENT THAT SAID "KNOWING ONE OF THE PICK 3,"  I took the bait KNOWING this would be your response. You set the conditions, I showed you how it would works. Now you want to change the conditions. Won't allow you to go back on your word no more that you allow anyone else. You stuck your foot in your mouth and deserve to eat the whole sole. Enjoy.

    Yes, I have done dumb things. I once spent $39.50 and won $40. When I looked back and saw the winner in the first $2.50 I spent, man I felt dumb. Then I told myself I did it to prove a point.

    Moral of the story: Proving a point can cause us to do silly things if we aren't careful.

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      Posted: November 28, 2010, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

      Since you are on Zeta Reticuli somebody has to volunteer to bring you up to speed on how Pick 3 is played.

      If you KNOW ONE NUMBER and add it to ever possible two combination in some form, you get 36 singles/unmatched numbers, 18 doubles, and 1 triple.

      Playing these 55 combinations at a minimum over the counter, fifty cents a set, you spend $27.50.

      A single in Texas pays $40, a double $80, the triple $250.

      That's it.

      "If you KNOW ONE NUMBER"...Nobody knows one number it's all a guess..Every number is a guess..it's ping pong balls!!!..0 thru 9 ping pong balls are just a guess..If your sure of any number you'd be rich..GUESS!!!..

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        Posted: November 28, 2010, 8:15 pm - IP Logged

        This will apply to all games and not just Systems or Mathematics so I'm putting it here.

        Let's develop a "So what" test that can be used to measure the possible credibility or practicality of a lot of things we read here on LP or here from other lottery players.

        This could also be used to really take a good look at some of the "systems" that the mail order schlock meisters try and sell.

        ______________________________________

        Someone tells you that one ceretain digit hasn't hit the Pick 3 in such and such a state for so many draws.

        SO WHAT.

        Is there any state that pays for one digit.

        *******************

        Someone tells you how many H/L or E/O or "O/I" (Outside/ insdie, perimeter) numbers have hit a jackpot game for so many draws.

        SO WHAT.

        Is any state booking action on this? Is it an option on any playslips?

        *******************

        Someone selling a so called system bases their theory on the results of drawings 16 years or so ago.

        SO WHAT.

        With the advent of the internet anyone can develop a theory first and then research until they have come up with something to supposedly back it up. Know this.

        *******************

        Someone says that their picks hit so much in a certain time frame. Then you find out their picks were all the Pick 3 non-doubles or triples boxed, or all the Mega Balls or Powerballs and they shelled out more than they won, just for bragging rights.

        SO WHAT

        Collecting less than you bet is not a win.

        ********************

        tbc.....

        Post any ideas you have along these lines.

        Smile

        "... measure the possible credibility or practicality of a lot of things we read here on LP ..."

        I evaluate ideas as follows...

        for credibility
        -- can I backtest the method with my own data?
        If I have to correctly guess too many things, i.e. the "key" (power, etc.) number(s), then it's not credible.
        Same applies if I have to rely on some peculiar glitch (e.g. TN computer error http://www.lotterypost.com/news/161314) for the win.

        for practicality -- is it reasonably affordable to test the system?
        If I have to spend hundreds per drawing and also be "lucky" in some sort of way (see above), then again, no it's not practical.
        Spending 39 to win 40 (grinding) is also, IMO, not practical.

        In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
        Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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          CT you misread YOUR OWN STATEMENT THAT SAID "KNOWING ONE OF THE PICK 3,"  I took the bait KNOWING this would be your response. You set the conditions, I showed you how it would works. Now you want to change the conditions. Won't allow you to go back on your word no more that you allow anyone else. You stuck your foot in your mouth and deserve to eat the whole sole. Enjoy.

          Yes, I have done dumb things. I once spent $39.50 and won $40. When I looked back and saw the winner in the first $2.50 I spent, man I felt dumb. Then I told myself I did it to prove a point.

          Moral of the story: Proving a point can cause us to do silly things if we aren't careful.

          garyo1954,

          All you showed me and everyone else was that you were so anxious to promote your magic one number theory that you completely omitted mentioning a loss.

          As I said, that's exacrly what a system seller would do.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            CT, I used YOUR EXACT words so why attack me claiming I'm promoting some magic one number theory? It was your criteria! LMAO

            BTW, that system is not my system, nor am I promoting it. It has been around since about 1992 or thereabouts when it was used in a major lottery publication ad by Steve Player. I guess you could call Stever Player a system seller. But he is not a liar since, under YOUR CONDITON, KNOWING ONE NUMBER, IT WORKS EVERY TIME.

            And we both know no major lottery publication would publish that ad knowing they were putting their reputation on the line and facing lawsuits if anybody proved it was false advertising. 

            Now it is unfortunte you don't see the humor in what has happened. But when you hold everybody to their exact words; expect someone to hold you to yours. Hey, this would make a great addition to your joke filled blog, too! You have my permission to use it.   


            But if you want to make me look like a REAL IDIOT, here's your chance: Mathematically, PROVE I would lose at Pick 3:

            1) When I KNOW ONE NUMBER (as you stated) and, 2) play every combination.

             

            If you can do that:

            1) I will NEVER answer another question in Mathematics, even if the question is directed to me.

            2) I will NEVER enter into any discussion started by you.

            3) I will NEVER question ANYTHING you say.

             

            Deal? Or do you have a better suggestion?

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              garyo1954

              "BTW, that system is not my system, nor am I promoting it. It has been around since about 1992 or thereabouts when it was used in a major lottery publication ad by Steve Player. I guess you could call Stever Player a system seller. But he is not a liar since, under YOUR CONDITON, KNOWING ONE NUMBER, IT WORKS EVERY TIME.

              And we both know no major lottery publication would publish that ad knowing they were putting their reputation on the line and facing lawsuits if anybody proved it was false advertising."

              ___________________________________

              If you believe all that you seriously need to come out of the trance. 

              Re: poublications this is the way it really works. There was a guy called McKusker who started a publication called Tipsters or Gypsters about sports betting services. The first issue he exposed their claims for what their picks had done, and the actual results. He subscribed to a few and told how thye had given out both sides of the same game to different customers. "Last week our 5-Star picks were 4-0." Before he even got the next issue ready for publication he was getting offer after offer from the sports services to give them a good write up - casino comps, the use of escort services on them, a trip "to the ranch", and flat out cash bribes. Guess what McKusker's second issue waas all about.

              You think lottery magazines don't play that game? If a Steve Player is willing to pay you thousands of dollars in advertising you are going to run his ads. Then take a good look at his full catalog. Four color printing is not cheap.

              As far as you'd lose at Pick 3, since only three numbers are drawn if your one number isn't one of the ones drawn, and all your numbers played included that number, where's that leave you?

              "But if you want to make me look like a REAL IDIOT, here's your chance: Mathematically, PROVE I would lose at Pick 3:....."

              Oh, this is good. If you want proof you'd lost @ Pick 3 just keep playing. Or are you know trying to say you never lose. Only an idiot would say that.

              I'm sure you had a fabulous time at the 1994 World series.

              NNTR. 

               


              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                What we have here.....is a failure to communicate.

                You said "Knowing one number of a Pick 3 or the most common Odds and Evens and Highs and Lows of a jackpot game does nothing for you."

                Humorously, I pulled out a two decade old system that met your KNOWING ONE NUMBER criteria, THAT WORKS EVERY TIME YOU KNOW ONE NUMBER.

                For a person who enjoys a joke as much as you do I can't see the problem. But the DEAL is on the table.

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                  "If you KNOW ONE NUMBER"...Nobody knows one number it's all a guess..Every number is a guess..it's ping pong balls!!!..0 thru 9 ping pong balls are just a guess..If your sure of any number you'd be rich..GUESS!!!..

                  Tiggs, you are oh, so wrong!!!!...just be silent read,  listen and learn from the Pick3 and pick-4  Digit Technicians  Par excellence...Like the rest of us...or go call the Brain!! shisssh!!

                  forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                  Now, does it count??

                   

                   

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                    What we have here.....is a failure to communicate.

                    You said "Knowing one number of a Pick 3 or the most common Odds and Evens and Highs and Lows of a jackpot game does nothing for you."

                    Humorously, I pulled out a two decade old system that met your KNOWING ONE NUMBER criteria, THAT WORKS EVERY TIME YOU KNOW ONE NUMBER.

                    For a person who enjoys a joke as much as you do I can't see the problem. But the DEAL is on the table.

                    Don't bother. With some people it's just futile. They know EVERYTHING there is to know. There is nothing else they can learn.

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                      Don't bother. With some people it's just futile. They know EVERYTHING there is to know. There is nothing else they can learn.

                      Oh,Oh, Joker, that is a dangerous state of mind for anyone to be in! I was thought to stay green, "stay green" I was told

                      "When you stay green you leave room for growth, but when you are  too ripe ( aka a prejudice,  knowing it all)  you rot!!!"

                      forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                      Now, does it count??

                       

                       

                      *Jr$ina

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                        Tiggs, you are oh, so wrong!!!!...just be silent read,  listen and learn from the Pick3 and pick-4  Digit Technicians  Par excellence...Like the rest of us...or go call the Brain!! shisssh!!

                        Nobody and tiggs means NOBODY can predict what numbers are coming in,dig!..So many experts so little time..jrosina haven't you learned yet,IT'S ALL A GUESS!!..PING PONG BALLS..Good God Almighty......"Didgit Technicians"..hahahahaha..Cute...

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                          Nobody and tiggs means NOBODY can predict what numbers are coming in,dig!..So many experts so little time..jrosina haven't you learned yet,IT'S ALL A GUESS!!..PING PONG BALLS..Good God Almighty......"Didgit Technicians"..hahahahaha..Cute...

                          Tiggs,  I am not going to say anymore...you are beloved so I will keep cool with you..ALMIGHTY GOD forbids that you should come down with something...and the Brain will blame me for upsetting her cutesy wootssy!!!LOl..

                          .Where in the heck is rd???!!

                          forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

                          Now, does it count??

                           

                           

                          *Jr$ina

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                            Tiggs,  I am not going to say anymore...you are beloved so I will keep cool with you..ALMIGHTY GOD forbids that you should come down with something...and the Brain will blame me for upsetting her cutesy wootssy!!!LOl..

                            .Where in the heck is rd???!!

                            ridge must be out buying winners in other states?..You know how he hates the computer draw in Tn..Let's hope he hasen't dropped dead from drinking..tiggs brother-in-law did just that..

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                              Tiggs,  I am not going to say anymore...you are beloved so I will keep cool with you..ALMIGHTY GOD forbids that you should come down with something...and the Brain will blame me for upsetting her cutesy wootssy!!!LOl..

                              .Where in the heck is rd???!!

                              ......."and the Brain will blame me for upsetting her cutesy wootssy!!!LOL.."

                               

                              Your number one on the list jrosina...You expert..:):)..Smooooooch...

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