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Coin Toss, the states have transcended ALL mathematical theories one could develop to win. The only ways to win now are pure luck, and historical drawing formulas. If you try and use math, you'll do an excellent job of calculating losing numbers. If you use history, you'll at least have some measure of probability that is shown to have given someone a winning combination. Whichever way you try, the state will be the one to utter "So what?".
Zeta Reticuli Star System United States
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Daveyl,
Excellent, and I couldn't agree more.
Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.
There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by Daveyl on Nov 30, 2010
Coin Toss, the states have transcended ALL mathematical theories one could develop to win. The only ways to win now are pure luck, and historical drawing formulas. If you try and use math, you'll do an excellent job of calculating losing numbers. If you use history, you'll at least have some measure of probability that is shown to have given someone a winning combination. Whichever way you try, the state will be the one to utter "So what?".
"Pure luck''...Once again tiggs is right....Systems QP's or dreams it all comes down to pure luck..Like that "pure luck"..
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Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 27, 2010
This will apply to all games and not just Systems or Mathematics so I'm putting it here.
Let's develop a "So what" test that can be used to measure the possible credibility or practicality of a lot of things we read here on LP or here from other lottery players.
This could also be used to really take a good look at some of the "systems" that the mail order schlock meisters try and sell.
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Someone tells you that one ceretain digit hasn't hit the Pick 3 in such and such a state for so many draws.
SO WHAT.
Is there any state that pays for one digit.
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Someone tells you how many H/L or E/O or "O/I" (Outside/ insdie, perimeter) numbers have hit a jackpot game for so many draws.
SO WHAT.
Is any state booking action on this? Is it an option on any playslips?
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Someone selling a so called system bases their theory on the results of drawings 16 years or so ago.
SO WHAT.
With the advent of the internet anyone can develop a theory first and then research until they have come up with something to supposedly back it up. Know this.
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Someone says that their picks hit so much in a certain time frame. Then you find out their picks were all the Pick 3 non-doubles or triples boxed, or all the Mega Balls or Powerballs and they shelled out more than they won, just for bragging rights.
SO WHAT
Collecting less than you bet is not a win.
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tbc.....
Post any ideas you have along these lines.
To me "so what" is seeing a list of 50 pick-3 numbers good in all states and reading where one of those numbers hit in the box somewhere. The probability is when you have over 60 pick-3 drawings a day, at least one of those combos will hit every day, but the facts show if all those numbers were played straight in box in every drawing, it would show a huge loss.
Lotteries have conducted pre-test probably since the beginning of their games yet players continue to say it has an effect on the patterns they see that already reflect the other pre-draw test.
A border line "so what" is when somebody predicts all five winning numbers in pick-5. While congratulations seems to be in order, the numbers probably weren't played and no winnings.
The problem with labeling any jackpot game system as "so what" is it only has to hit one time to be a success. However if the system involves playing thousands of dollars every drawing, it's "so what" on arrival. Maddog's Challenges are being evaluated as if all the players played $3168 per drawing. I've never read where any of the players wheeled their 12 wps picks with their 12 bonus numbers even once so that evaluation deserves a hardy "SO WHAT".
"Someone tells you that one ceretain digit hasn't hit the Pick 3 in such and such a state for so many draws. SO WHAT. Is there any state that pays for one digit."
They could play the number in all three digit positions using Front Pair and Back Pair for $30 and win $20 if that number was drawn. As a one time bet, maybe but if they said it worked every day, we would have to change it to "eyes rolling".
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Stsck47, I rarely play front pair and back pair, but the last time I did it went something like this:
124 EVE SB $1
FP $1
BP $1
Evening Draw
412
Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.
There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.