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Posted: November 27, 2010, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

The idea of this is to wake people up to those who are promoting things that have no substance, selling the sizzle and not the steak because there is no steak.

Knowing one number of a Pick 3 or the most common Odds and Evens or Highs and Lows of a jackpot game does nothing for you. But yet the most ridiculous, baloney system could surface and cause a fervor.

Beware the touts.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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    The idea of this is to wake people up to those who are promoting things that have no substance, selling the sizzle and not the steak because there is no steak.

    Knowing one number of a Pick 3 or the most common Odds and Evens or Highs and Lows of a jackpot game does nothing for you. But yet the most ridiculous, baloney system could surface and cause a fervor.

    Beware the touts.

    You're starting to sound like the occasional posters that show up telling everyone they're wasting their time here on the LP.

     Having one number, odd and even, among many others, are tools we pick 3 players use to get an edge. Some use ideas, and others use visions and so on.

    Folks who have no clue about a game will usually buy a product before finding the LP and similar lottery sites because they need assistance, and the people who are privy to the lottery won't bother.

    Ok, so what do you suggest we do?...... Should we just throw in the towel because Cointoss said it's futile?

    BTW, some of the tools have helped me win, especially the Steve Player graph which made me $3,000....plus another $1,500 months later. Not to mention smaller wins before and after. I'm still ahead of the game. It's a learning process that some of us want to eventually make a living from it. And please don't tell me those people don't exist. I don't care If you've worked in the Casino business for 1,000 years, folks like that will not come up to you and tell you they are doing it. You wouldn't believe them anyways.

    You need tools, cause otherwise we would just sit around and pull numbers out of our asses, and that's not fun for me. I like to use my brain.....Sorry If that bothers you so much...

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      Posted: November 28, 2010, 12:29 am - IP Logged

      And herre's a partial score from the West Coast.....

      Anaheim 6 ............

      That's what I'm referring to.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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        Posted: November 28, 2010, 12:38 am - IP Logged

        And herre's a partial score from the West Coast.....

        Anaheim 6 ............

        That's what I'm referring to.

        Maybe you should've taken the time to figure out what the other score was before posting it. That's what I'm referring to.....

        Not a good analogy. I think you're missing the point I made.

        Anytime we can reduce the odds is a good thing, even If it means one number, one column, or one sub-group at a time.

        This place is a proving ground for lottery enthusiasts to hone their skills. They throw around ideas. What part of this don't you get?

        I can't put this any simpler dude....lol

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          joker17,

          "Maybe you should've taken the time to figure out what the other score was before posting it. That's what I'm referring to....."

          You're missing it, too. The point is insufficeng data. Knowing that the next draw will show four odd and two evens pays no one except the lottery.

          Foo-koo, eye quat. (Vetnamese, literally "ambush two tangerines". But I'm going for the phoenetic here!)

          Tis thread was intended as a wake up of sorts. I'll file it under Threads I should not have started/ because people don't want to know the truth.

          By the way joker, how did that $3500 horse racing system workout for you?

          PS

          The pony races are fixed by the way. Big time.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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            joker17,

            "Maybe you should've taken the time to figure out what the other score was before posting it. That's what I'm referring to....."

            You're missing it, too. The point is insufficeng data. Knowing that the next draw will show four odd and two evens pays no one except the lottery.

            Foo-koo, eye quat. (Vetnamese, literally "ambush two tangerines". But I'm going for the phoenetic here!)

            Tis thread was intended as a wake up of sorts. I'll file it under Threads I should not have started/ because people don't want to know the truth.

            By the way joker, how did that $3500 horse racing system workout for you?

            PS

            The pony races are fixed by the way. Big time.

            Insufficient data? That's your strong point in this? Well DUH!!!!!....Of course there's insufficient data because If anyone could predict every single time they would first.....1:Wouldn't be the least interested in telling YOU about it, and secondly, ...2: they'd be on some remote island somewhere sipping on Margaritas.....DUH !!!!....No schmidt Sherlock !

            Another thing, you show your ignorance by thinking you need to know all of the numbers to win consistently. Many people make a meager living off the lottery by utilizing one or two numbers, or using programs that utilize those numbers in the p-3, and especially the p-4, and filling in the rest. As long as you've spent here on the LP, of all the people, I would've never thought you would make such comments, unless you were too busy thinking up the next poll instead of actually taking the time to see how the learning process occurs.

            If anything or anyone is experiencing insufficient data, is you.

             

             

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              In football, it's all about percentages. You put your team in a position with the most favorable matchups and call the play with the best chance of success. Sometime it works. Sometimes it doesn't. But you come away from that particular experience knowing you did the best you could.  Behind the scenes you go back, you look it over, and see what you have to do to correct the problem, if there was one, or continue with the same idea. Lottery is the a lot like that.

              Now maybe I missed the point of this thread; maybe the point is vague. I read 'selling the sizzle and not the steak because there is no steak' and wonder you mean a) do they have no steak to offer? or b) is there no steak anywhere?

              There are people here who do very well predicting numbers. Vergie blows my mind. Blackie, I don't know if he still posts, but he was awesome! There are others, but those two come to mind offhand. So if winning is the steak, then these people prove the steak is there.

              Sad but true, if you KNOW one number in Pick 3, you are in the money. At least in Texas, there is no question about it.

              Knowing the highs and low or even and odds of a jackpot game may not do anything for anyone in particular, but people in general like to know these things. Whether they help, who knows? But there are so many different reasons for visiting lottery post it would is unfair to make that comment. People new to lottery have questions, experienced people want to see if they can fine tune their skills, people doing research want to know more, people curious to see if anyone is doing the same thing, or maybe they just heard about a system from a friend or neighbor and want to read more about it. Not everybody is here schlupting their schlock.

              And not everything posted is for everybody. Secret: I read some of the mystical board with interest but have no clue how it works. I respect what they do though. 

              Somebody posted a ridiculous, baloney system? Impressive! These ridiculous, baloney systems go back as far as the winner who played the numbers of the scan codes on milk cartons, but that was his sytem and he won! How much more ridiculous can you get?

              SO WHAT

              I still have 40 different colored markers and graph paper!


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                Great points Garyo.

                @Cointoss.....The dog racing system works great, but there is a 3 plus years learning curve to it. Had I known about this prior, I wouldn't have bought it. It was deceptive marketing with no refund policy, but there is no doubt in my mind it works, but like everything worthwile learning like a professional on this planet, it takes devotion and time. For you to lump this with your earlier point is incorrect. You're comparing someone posting one number to a devious system seller.

                 I also wrote earlier that inexperienced enthusiasts may spend money on scams which would fall under "Learning experiences". The ones who are privy won't. You seem to conveniently ignore the points I make.

                 Personally, I was inexperienced with the dogs and fell into this learning trap, and put a lot of time and effort into learning it. I got the jist of it, but you need an "Eye" for it to work in the big money, which takes a few years....So what? You can still make money in the beginning though, just not the big money like the teacher does, until you got it down pat.... ...I spent more money in the past which would eclipse the 2 grand i spent on the dog system. Maybe I'm just too lazy to learn it all the way through.... But NOT because it doesn't work. There are no gimmicks or worthless mechanical methods to it. It's a sensible, professional approach to details within certain stats and betting techniques that produce the most optimal payouts.

                Next....

                 

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                  All I was trying to do was give people a heads up about certain things.

                  You have both seen threads here which would only make a system seller or a lottery director froth at the mouth and think, "Oh boy, let me at 'em!"

                  I do find it quite interesting, and entertaining that some people who talk about how much they win on lotto and gambling in general have jobs, and in some cases jobs they admittedely hate.

                  Yeah, I know, So What.

                  Buono Fortuna

                  Lep

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    Alaskans spend the winter looking over temperatures, weather forcasts, river ice thickness, Sit and have discussion about it with friends enjoying an adult beverage. Look up websites with past history data. All for what? To wager on the Nenana ice classic.

                    So what.

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                      The idea of this is to wake people up to those who are promoting things that have no substance, selling the sizzle and not the steak because there is no steak.

                      Knowing one number of a Pick 3 or the most common Odds and Evens or Highs and Lows of a jackpot game does nothing for you. But yet the most ridiculous, baloney system could surface and cause a fervor.

                      Beware the touts.

                      I agree with placing hopes on buying "systems" from people who only care about making a sale is a waste of money. I have never bought a system or book on lotteries, and most likely never will (never is a long time, hence, "most likely").

                      Having said that, I believe it's futile to place hope in any system or method in order to find "the exact numbers" that will be drawn in a jackpot game. There are just too many combinations. When I look at other people's posts about what they are doing, I'm looking for something that will help reduce the odds. In looking for systems, methods, etc, it is to find a way to reduce the odds. That's about the best we can hope for to try to nail a hit.

                      In a game like P3 or P4, knowing one number by itself will not win you any money, but it can help reduce the odds to help you win some money.

                      CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                      A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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                        here's one:

                        So what the Buckets of Sunshine are about to be unleashed, I can still try my Luck!


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                          joker17,

                          "Many people make a meager living off the lottery by utilizing one or two numbers, or using programs that utilize those numbers in the p-3, and especially the p-4, and filling in the rest."

                          OK, just for discussion, I'll play. I don't think making a "meager" living is the idea of playing lotto.

                          As for one number, I know Mass. has "Any one, any two, or any three" as options on their Pick 4, but the "any one" is break-even or just slightly better, if I remember right. If you're saying that knowing one number and playing all the combinations of it is profitable, a room awaits at the Instutute for the Lottery Insane. That's about like calling a bookie and saying "I know one of the football scores tomorrow will be 14, will you book that?"

                          I sell everything at a loss but make up for it in volume
                          - Milo Minderbinder, Catch-22

                          Re: a learning experience, more power to you but I would consider haing learned not to shell out big, big $$$$for a system to have been the learning experience.

                          And oh yeah, since you're the second one to imply a snide remark about making polls, what's the problem? It's a discussion board, after all, and polls trigger discusions.

                          Bet the third dog in the third race.

                          Wink

                          See Ya!       Sulk Off

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Since you are on Zeta Reticuli somebody has to volunteer to bring you up to speed on how Pick 3 is played.

                            If you KNOW ONE NUMBER and add it to ever possible two combination in some form, you get 36 singles/unmatched numbers, 18 doubles, and 1 triple.

                            Playing these 55 combinations at a minimum over the counter, fifty cents a set, you spend $27.50.

                            A single in Texas pays $40, a double $80, the triple $250.

                            That's it.


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                              joker17,

                              "Many people make a meager living off the lottery by utilizing one or two numbers, or using programs that utilize those numbers in the p-3, and especially the p-4, and filling in the rest."

                              OK, just for discussion, I'll play. I don't think making a "meager" living is the idea of playing lotto.

                              As for one number, I know Mass. has "Any one, any two, or any three" as options on their Pick 4, but the "any one" is break-even or just slightly better, if I remember right. If you're saying that knowing one number and playing all the combinations of it is profitable, a room awaits at the Instutute for the Lottery Insane. That's about like calling a bookie and saying "I know one of the football scores tomorrow will be 14, will you book that?"

                              I sell everything at a loss but make up for it in volume
                              - Milo Minderbinder, Catch-22

                              Re: a learning experience, more power to you but I would consider haing learned not to shell out big, big $$$$for a system to have been the learning experience.

                              And oh yeah, since you're the second one to imply a snide remark about making polls, what's the problem? It's a discussion board, after all, and polls trigger discusions.

                              Bet the third dog in the third race.

                              Wink

                              See Ya!       Sulk Off

                              "Many people make a meager living off the lottery by utilizing one or two numbers, or using programs that utilize those numbers in the p-3, and especially the p-4, and filling in the rest."

                              OK, just for discussion, I'll play. I don't think making a "meager" living is the idea of playing lotto.

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                              That's the goal for people who want to make a living with the p-3 or p-4 than working at their miserable jobs. I still think you simply don't get it.

                              The remark about the polls was written because you keep showing your ignorance about the p-3 which can only mean that you spend more time sitting around wondering what the next poll is, rather than educating yourself,  so you don't sound ignorant when you attempt to make a point.