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Posted: June 22, 2011, 9:08 pm - IP Logged

In fact, the "Straight" pattern defined above has more possible outcomes (55) than any other pattern you can come up with!

--Jimmy4164

What about all even numbers? 29/59 = 118,755
What about all odd numbers? 30/59 = 142,506
What about multiple of 3's? 19/59 = 11,628
I could go one, there's practical no limit to groups of numbers by patterns, but each has a fixed amount which allows one to calculate the probability of one from a particular group hitting.

"...but each has a fixed amount which allows one to calculate the probability of one from a particular group hitting."

...and then what?

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    RJOh,

    Why didn't you let guesser reply?

    Besides, your answer is misleading and innacurate.

    1-2-3-4-5 is no more or less likely to be drawn than 3-7-8-21-39, which was my point, and which you are evading.  If you define a "Straight" as N,  N+1, N+2, N+3, N+4, N is restricted to the range 1-55, which means there are actually 55 possible, not 54.

    If we wished to bet only on patterns represented by my other example, it could be defined as N, N+4, N+5, N+18, N+36.  By inspection, you should see that N is more restricted with this pattern, resulting in significantly less possibilities than the simple straight.

    In fact, the "Straight" pattern defined above has more possible outcomes (55) than any other pattern you can come up with!

    --Jimmy4164

    Nothing I posted prevented guesser from replying so I'm guessing he had no plans to reply.

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      Posted: July 3, 2011, 4:10 pm - IP Logged

      "There are some things you just won't see hit in one game, such as 1-2-3-4-5, or 55-56-57-58-59, or any five numbers in a row."

      Why do you think "you just won't see" straights like that?

      If one did happen to occur, how would you explain it?

      Sorry, I did not see the ongoing discussions after I posted.

      If 1-2-3-4-5 hit how would I explain it?

      I wouldn't, I can't, aside from random luck, nobody can.

      The facts are, the majority of games won are games where there are two or three numbers hit from 1-29, and three or two numbers chosen from 30-59. (It's usually a 2/3 or 3/2 split).

      I prefer to make selections that actually hit 73% of the time, to have all five numbers hit from 1-29 or from 30-59 is not impossible, but the odds simply are not there, go look for yourself.

      I would also be willing to bet that more than one person plays 1-2-3-4-5 EVERY drawing, so if YOU play it also, my guess is several people will be splitting a jackpot.

      Now, keep in mind, I did NOT say a 5-0 or 0-5 never happens - they do - just as a 4-1 split hit on July 2, and 1/4 splits have hit, but why would you play an odd game when 73% of them are a more certain way, 2/3 or 3/2?

      And until 7/2 we had eight straight games where numbers 1-10 (actually 1-11) were not selected, and that is very odd also. We now have nine numbers from 1-10 that have not hit in ten games or more, that's kind of odd, just as it was about two weeks ago when I said we had four numbers from 50-59 that had not hit in 40+ games (actually, 39+ games), two was normal - four is not - and then two of them were hit in the next two drawings.

      HOPEFULLY folks noticed that and played some of them.

      There is another oddity right now - both #26 AND #28 have not hit in 30 games, usually one of the two is hit by game 28, the furthest I have seen a pair fall is I think 33 games. That is worth watching, one of the two if not both.

      I cannot tell you what to play, and even if I implied it - such as #26 or #28 - that's just one number, you need more than that.

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        Posted: July 3, 2011, 4:17 pm - IP Logged

        RJOh,

        Why didn't you let guesser reply?

        Besides, your answer is misleading and innacurate.

        1-2-3-4-5 is no more or less likely to be drawn than 3-7-8-21-39, which was my point, and which you are evading.  If you define a "Straight" as N,  N+1, N+2, N+3, N+4, N is restricted to the range 1-55, which means there are actually 55 possible, not 54.

        If we wished to bet only on patterns represented by my other example, it could be defined as N, N+4, N+5, N+18, N+36.  By inspection, you should see that N is more restricted with this pattern, resulting in significantly less possibilities than the simple straight.

        In fact, the "Straight" pattern defined above has more possible outcomes (55) than any other pattern you can come up with!

        --Jimmy4164

        I have no idea what West Virginia cash 25's matrix is, that's a different bird altogether, my guess is it is a 6/49 game.

        The odds suggest 3-7-8-21-39 is FAR more likely to hit than 1-2-3-4-5 in Powerball. Powerball is all I know.

        I'd be far more inclined to play 7-8-21-39-46, or something like that.

        a 3/2 split with three 'odd' numbers.

         

         

        And besides, RJoH does just fine, I have no problems with his logic.

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          Posted: July 3, 2011, 4:28 pm - IP Logged


          The following is for the last 260 PB drawings since its last matrix change.

          Until the numbers 01 11 18 29 51 matched 5 in last night drawing they had:

           MATCH 0 = 173
           MATCH 1 = 74
           MATCH 2 = 11
           MATCH 3 = 1
           MATCH 4 = 0
           MATCH 5 = 0

          Likewise the numbers 01 02 03 04 05 have:

           MATCH 0 = 174
           MATCH 1 = 78
           MATCH 2 = 8
           MATCH 3 = 0
           MATCH 4 = 0
           MATCH 5 = 0

          Not a lot of difference between the two sets of numbers until the one matched 5.

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            Posted: July 3, 2011, 4:29 pm - IP Logged

            hi jimmy4164 do you have a workout or any numbers for florida today

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              Posted: July 3, 2011, 4:32 pm - IP Logged

              I have no idea what West Virginia cash 25's matrix is, that's a different bird altogether, my guess is it is a 6/49 game.

              The odds suggest 3-7-8-21-39 is FAR more likely to hit than 1-2-3-4-5 in Powerball. Powerball is all I know.

              I'd be far more inclined to play 7-8-21-39-46, or something like that.

              a 3/2 split with three 'odd' numbers.

               

               

              And besides, RJoH does just fine, I have no problems with his logic.

              The WV Cash 25 is a Choose 6 numbers from a matrix of 25 numbers.

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                The WV Cash 25 is a Choose 6 numbers from a matrix of 25 numbers.

                What does it pay?

                You folks should be all over it!

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                  The following is for the last 260 PB drawings since its last matrix change.

                  Until the numbers 01 11 18 29 51 matched 5 in last night drawing they had:

                   MATCH 0 = 173
                   MATCH 1 = 74
                   MATCH 2 = 11
                   MATCH 3 = 1
                   MATCH 4 = 0
                   MATCH 5 = 0

                  Likewise the numbers 01 02 03 04 05 have:

                   MATCH 0 = 174
                   MATCH 1 = 78
                   MATCH 2 = 8
                   MATCH 3 = 0
                   MATCH 4 = 0
                   MATCH 5 = 0

                  Not a lot of difference between the two sets of numbers until the one matched 5.

                  That said, if you did NOT know a thing about the game or hit history, would YOU walk in and play 1-2-3-4-5?

                  (I'm already betting you will say 'yes').

                  And if you DID know the game and hit history would you play 1-2-3-4-5?

                  (and I'm betting you will say a less-resounding 'yes').

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                    Posted: July 7, 2011, 3:25 pm - IP Logged

                    What does it pay?

                    You folks should be all over it!

                    From the WV lottery site

                    $1 to play. Choose 6 numbers between 1~25

                    $25,000 top prize (6 of 6) up to 10 winners.

                    5 of 6 = $250

                    4 0f 6 = $10

                    3 of 6 = $1

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                      Posted: July 7, 2011, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

                      hi jimmy4164 do you have a workout or any numbers for florida today

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