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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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I Agree!

They also invariably love to use the words "cannot" "will not" and "never" in a possesive incantation.

Definately lacking in PEF.Thud

And then they expect us to take them seriously.  Really?Disapprove

Thank you LB, I was starting to feel a hypnotic trance like state coming over me and you snapped me out of it.


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    I almost forgot about the existence of P.E.F. These guys make Thrifty look like a superior being.......


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      Thank you LB, I was starting to feel a hypnotic trance like state coming over me and you snapped me out of it.

      YW Ronnie, Yes I also was starting to feel an overwhelming mesmerizing desire to quit.

      But I think I may just play one line tonite in thrifty fashion.  Trying to get my sixth sense functioning properly again.  Its out of order.Unhappy


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        YW Ronnie, Yes I also was starting to feel an overwhelming mesmerizing desire to quit.

        But I think I may just play one line tonite in thrifty fashion.  Trying to get my sixth sense functioning properly again.  Its out of order.Unhappy

        I have been feeling the same sense of disarray playing a competition with someone who wants to prove losing as a way of life.....  I'm going myself to suckle the P.E.F. device at the gas station and see if I can nurse some of the succulent energy flow for a winning attitude and perspective that the vampires have leached.


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          I have been feeling the same sense of disarray playing a competition with someone who wants to prove losing as a way of life.....  I'm going myself to suckle the P.E.F. device at the gas station and see if I can nurse some of the succulent energy flow for a winning attitude and perspective that the vampires have leached.

          Ronnie316,

          For quite some time you've been managing this thread in an effort to answer your original question of whether some number selections have better odds of winning. Recently, you focused on the idea of choosing a 28 number subset of the 56 in the MegaMillions field. This led to a controversy over questions of probabilites and odds. What I've presented you with here is a scaled down model that would allow you to discuss your idea of removing certain numbers from play in an environment that's easy to comprehend.

          What you've been doing since I gave you a chance to prove [or disprove] your idea is avoiding the whole issue of its eficacy. Rather than apply your hypothesis to the simple Lotto model, you make jokes.

          If you are not able to convincingly show us that removing ONE ball from play in a (5,2) Lotto game will help you win more, why should anyone believe you can outperform the rest of us by removing 28 balls from the MM game?

          Take another look...

          https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/255566

          --Jimmy4164


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            Ronnie316,

            For quite some time you've been managing this thread in an effort to answer your original question of whether some number selections have better odds of winning. Recently, you focused on the idea of choosing a 28 number subset of the 56 in the MegaMillions field. This led to a controversy over questions of probabilites and odds. What I've presented you with here is a scaled down model that would allow you to discuss your idea of removing certain numbers from play in an environment that's easy to comprehend.

            What you've been doing since I gave you a chance to prove [or disprove] your idea is avoiding the whole issue of its eficacy. Rather than apply your hypothesis to the simple Lotto model, you make jokes.

            If you are not able to convincingly show us that removing ONE ball from play in a (5,2) Lotto game will help you win more, why should anyone believe you can outperform the rest of us by removing 28 balls from the MM game?

            Take another look...

            https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/255566

            --Jimmy4164

            For starters Jimmy, I dont make lengthy intellectuals replies because in mind doesn't work that way. (call me a "minder" if that's what works for you)

            Secondly when you make a lengthy opening paragraph that has multip[e false assumptions it is difficult for me to reply at all because my mind focuses on your errant comments instead of the subject matter. 

            Looking at half the numbers has been a theme from the very first post, so picking 2/5 is apples and oranges.


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              For starters Jimmy, I dont make lengthy intellectuals replies because in mind doesn't work that way. (call me a "minder" if that's what works for you)

              Secondly when you make a lengthy opening paragraph that has multip[e false assumptions it is difficult for me to reply at all because my mind focuses on your errant comments instead of the subject matter. 

              Looking at half the numbers has been a theme from the very first post, so picking 2/5 is apples and oranges.

              Ronnie316,

              "...so picking 2/5 is apples and oranges."

              So, for you, apparently, the case is closed. Correct?

              Most people who understand probability and set theory would disagree with you.

              Don't you think removing "1 Apple from a bag of 5 Apples" compared to removing "28 Apples from a box of 56 Apples" is more akin to "A FEW apples" vs "A LOT of apples" rather than Apples vs Oranges?

              I'm wondering what other people here think about this.

              --Jimmy4164


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                RJOh already told you what he thinks......... Does he not count as "other people"


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                  The case closed?? You can remove 5 numbers from the 5/56 pool with a 62% chance of success........


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                    Besides Jim B Im not askin anyone to believe me....... Just discusson..........


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                      Your the one who seems to have his own personal agenda here Jim B. 

                      Is it anti-lottery troll speak? Tell the truth.........

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                        The case closed?? You can remove 5 numbers from the 5/56 pool with a 62% chance of success........

                        LOL.

                        Well, after being entertained by this thread I decided to weigh in with my experience, for what it's worth (certainly not a jackpot, yet).

                        I buy tickets twice a week for a pool at work We play PB, MM, and Texas Lotto, depending on my mood, and the size of the jackpot in each game. I usually favor MM because I can buy twice the tickets than PB, and Texas Lotto doesn't get as high as PB or MM.

                        Ok, so my usual method of operation is to play as many numbers as I can. There are 11 of us, so in MM I can play 55 numbers on 11 lines. Cool, huh? I just play the numbers random. Well, obviously, the problem is getting the winning numbers on the same line. It's great to have all the numbers on my tics, but really disappointing to always have just 2 winning numbers on one line and the others scattered. I have tried this often with Texas Lotto as I can play all 54 numbers on 9 lines, and even have a set of 20 lines from Lotto Logix wheel playing all 54 numbers on 20 lines. I have kept track of the 20 line sets, and rarely do better than 3 out 6, once in a blue moon 4 out of 6. (I don't play all that  myself, just on paper). So, after reading this very enlightening thread, I played the last 2 MM draws with a reduced field of numbers. I decided to pick at random 25 numbers and play them on 11 lines. The first draw, I had 3 winning numbers, but only 2 on one line. Last Friday I had 4 winning numbers, 3 on one line. Winner winner chicken dinner!

                        Very short time period for the experiment, but... promising. Any time we try to reduce the odds by filtering, reducing the field, etc, there are going to be conditons. But to me, when we're playing in a sandbox as big as PB and MM, trying to reduce the odds even with conditions is the smart way to go.

                        Thanks, Ronnie316.

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                          Very nice work  Thanks for sharing that.  rcbbuckeye. And remember you only need to win the jackpot once on any one singe given draw to make it all worthwhile.

                          Its easy for any clear thinking lottery player to see that you are playing for a jackpot, NOT some long term "statistical" advantage over the lotteries so that you can "beat the house" and "beat the odds" 

                          Best wishes on hitting that jackpot for yourself and your work pool.


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                            Im going to play a 10 number 4 if 4 wheel on MM. Tue. Jan. 15, 2013.

                            Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 4 if 4 of 10

                            Tickets:  52

                            Description:  Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 10 numbers.

                            Input:  4, 25, 56, 34, 21, 30, 44, 29, 38, 55


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