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Set of 28 for MM. Tue. Jan. 15, 2013.

01 02 03 04 06 07 10 13 14 21 25 28 29 30 32 33 34 38 39 40 41 43 44 51 52 54 55 56

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    I didn't think what I wrote was complex, it's basics for understanding figuring probabilities. 

    As for Ronnie and Stack's theories, they're as capable of explaining their theories as you are at explaining how studying a 2/5 matrix can help one design  a better lottery system. 

    Good luck to you all.

    Cash 5, Va

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    'it's basics for understanding figuring probabilities. ' 

    I want you to take a look at cash 5 (Va -day), with format 5/34, now looking at the trend of draw range (red colors), my field /pool seems to be 1 to 26, so why not focus on 5/26. You may argue from your begining statement ' basics of probabilities' ,the key word is BASICS, meanining you can be outside the loop of  Basics with your thought and not discard  member jimmy ideal of scale -down. Jackport or big payouts are won within the 0.1 ratio, so any logic to arrive , and be part of this ratio should be considered.

    Is best to hit less with high payout. Do you play all the combos  of P3, P4 (0-9) at each bet? No,  but you always choose a sector of the pool; 123,798,111 etc, etc...... what the member jimmy is saying, if the frequency of draws of say P3, is within 0-7, then you scale down from 0-9 to 0-7. I wrote a similar thread ' why the pool size 0-9?', and comments from guys explaining probability laws ,space and time  etc, without adressing the question posed. You see, we're all caught  in our comfort zones, and taught certain way. Everything is possible, lottery is a game created by humans, don't discard the elasticity of the brain looking at human progress.

    Now what parameters you choose to scale down is optional, and please  be mindful that theories are created by us and can be perceived differently, lets  be open to sharing and we may surprise ourselves.


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      No one here has failed to be open-minded   adobea78 (especially RJOh)

      Jimmy's sole purpose for posting here is to prove that the overall statistical odds CAN NOT be improved upon and therefore this thread (and your comments) are a waste of time and should be discontinued.

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        No one here has failed to be open-minded   adobea78 (especially RJOh)

        Jimmy's sole purpose for posting here is to prove that the overall statistical odds CAN NOT be improved upon and therefore this thread (and your comments) are a waste of time and should be discontinued.

        Interesting, can you explain why  scale-down  of the pool  cannot improve overall statistics? and why open topic posed by another member is a waste of time and should be discontinued? I thought no one has the monopoly of  shared ideals.


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          Interesting, can you explain why  scale-down  of the pool  cannot improve overall statistics? and why open topic posed by another member is a waste of time and should be discontinued? I thought no one has the monopoly of  shared ideals.

          You are making false assumptions.... I gave Jimmy's new thread 5 stars and posted that it was nice work. If you feel good about that idea, please by all means get involved and participate........................

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/255566/2878765


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            Interesting, can you explain why  scale-down  of the pool  cannot improve overall statistics? and why open topic posed by another member is a waste of time and should be discontinued? I thought no one has the monopoly of  shared ideals.

            FYI adobea78, Jimmy's introductory posts on this thread called me "ignorant" "a Minder" and "a Buffoon" 

            just to let you know the source of any confrontational mood is NOT from me...........

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              FYI adobea78, Jimmy's introductory posts on this thread called me "ignorant" "a Minder" and "a Buffoon" 

              just to let you know the source of any confrontational mood is NOT from me...........

              sorry about that, lets keep our egos in check and raise courtesy and ideals high, we may surprise ourselves.


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                sorry about that, lets keep our egos in check and raise courtesy and ideals high, we may surprise ourselves.

                Thanks I Agree!


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                  Im going to play a 10 number 4 if 4 wheel on MM. Tue. Jan. 15, 2013.

                  Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 4 if 4 of 10

                  Tickets:  52

                  Description:  Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 10 numbers.

                  Input:  4, 25, 56, 34, 21, 30, 44, 29, 38, 55

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                    Interesting, can you explain why  scale-down  of the pool  cannot improve overall statistics? and why open topic posed by another member is a waste of time and should be discontinued? I thought no one has the monopoly of  shared ideals.

                    When I speak of a "waste of time", I'm only speaking of my time.  I can only monopolize my own time when it comes to studying lotteries but everyone else can do what ever they like with their time and ideas. 

                    I won't study Virgina Cash5 because it's not one of the games I play.  I don't  study pick3 and pick4 games because I don't play them either. 

                    Good luck to you.

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                      sorry about that, lets keep our egos in check and raise courtesy and ideals high, we may surprise ourselves.

                      Sorry Adobea78,

                      For once, Ronnie316 may have gotten someting PARTLY correct.  I did not claim that studying a scaled down Lotto game would lead to better odds of winning.  What I DID say is that a scaled down Lotto model would provide Ronnie316 with an opportunity to prove that his selection ideas would do that.  From what you've posted here I suspect you would at least agree with that.  Thus far, Ronnie has elected not to take advantage of the demonstration opportunities that a simple (5,2) Lotto provides him with.

                      Regardless of whether you are working with a Lotto game of 56, 49, 34, or 5 Balls, when you make your selections from a subset of the field, whatever new probabilites you calculate MUST be multipled by the probability that you selected one of the correct subsets, which is always LESS THAN 1.0!

                      BTW, if you want to vew the context of my use of the word "buffoon" and what lead up to my use of it, you could start with my first post in this thread.  I don't think it's a good use of your time, but here it is...

                      https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/247020/2833733

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                        Wow! Somebody is feeling frisky.Jester Laugh

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                          Now that MM is at $47M/$36.4, I'm interested in playing again.  I'll be using some of the techniques I've read about in this thread to pick 20 lines for tonight's drawing.  If I match 5of5 or better I will post a complete breakdown of what I did.  I plan to post the first 10 lines on the prediction board.

                          What techniques, RJOH?  All I have read about are people posting 28 numbers and people bee-i-itching about those numbers.  I would really enjoy reading how people went about picking their numbers, what criteria they used, and so forth.  I can do without all that other.

                          We all know what the odds are and that odds never change.  We also know that having a 28 number pool will (on some draws) put our anticipatory odds at something less than 175 million to one and on other draws increase our anticipatory odds to infinity.  The effort is what matters here: not the odds or the results.

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                            What techniques, RJOH?  All I have read about are people posting 28 numbers and people bee-i-itching about those numbers.  I would really enjoy reading how people went about picking their numbers, what criteria they used, and so forth.  I can do without all that other.

                            We all know what the odds are and that odds never change.  We also know that having a 28 number pool will (on some draws) put our anticipatory odds at something less than 175 million to one and on other draws increase our anticipatory odds to infinity.  The effort is what matters here: not the odds or the results.

                            "We all know what the odds are and that odds never change." 

                            Sounds like you know all you need to know except how to win so I won't confuse you with my thoughts.

                            Good luck to you.

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                              I agree, nicely said.  Talking about odds does not add anything to the game nor take away from it.

                              I would rather hear what someone is doing or some information that might help me in my next game

                              rather it's mathematically sound sound or not.   With odds of 175+ million to one I don't expect any

                              one to have a "works every time" solution.    It seems to me that some are scared $hitless by the 

                              prospect that we might win using our feeble minds. 

                               

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