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Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 15, 2013
A sure fire way to increase your odds of winning would be to free up some of the hours you currently spend pondering your selections and spend them on a part time job, using all the money earned to buy MORE TICKETS like those above. Not only Boney, Mediabrat, and myself will agree that you are increasing your odds of winning something, but every mathematician in the world as well!
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Jan 15, 2013
A sure fire way to increase your odds of winning would be to free up some of the hours you currently spend pondering your selections and spend them on a part time job, using all the money earned to buy MORE TICKETS like those above. Not only Boney, Mediabrat, and myself will agree that you are increasing your odds of winning something, but every mathematician in the world as well!
FYI Jimmy, Im NOT looking for acceptance among the mathematician community of the world......
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Jan 15, 2013
A sure fire way to increase your odds of winning would be to free up some of the hours you currently spend pondering your selections and spend them on a part time job, using all the money earned to buy MORE TICKETS like those above. Not only Boney, Mediabrat, and myself will agree that you are increasing your odds of winning something, but every mathematician in the world as well!
One sure fire way to increase your odds is to........ buy a ticket SOMEDAY...........
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Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 16, 2013
FYI Jimmy, Im NOT looking for acceptance among the mathematician community of the world......
I thought mathematical acceptance was when we first understood 5 of something is more than 1 of something; like 5 pennies are more than one penny and any 5-year-old that understands it, is generally accepted. Calculating the probability of any group of 28 numbers having a five number match is a little more complex math, but the results show there should be 1 five number match in the next 39 outcomes.
You ran a test using a group of 28 numbers and had 5 five number matches in less than 39 drawings and I understood that 28 numbers is more than 25 numbers and knew that 25 or less numbers are drawn in five consecutive matches. So there are thousands of groups of 28 numbers that will match 5 numbers every five consecutive drawings. If my mathematical argument still doesn't prove it to them, your use of specific groups of 28 before the drawings should.
If Jimmy and others still can't believe some number combinations do get better odds, they can ask a 5-year-old why 5 pennies is more then 1 penny.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 16, 2013
I thought mathematical acceptance was when we first understood 5 of something is more than 1 of something; like 5 pennies are more than one penny and any 5-year-old that understands it, is generally accepted. Calculating the probability of any group of 28 numbers having a five number match is a little more complex math, but the results show there should be 1 five number match in the next 39 outcomes.
You ran a test using a group of 28 numbers and had 5 five number matches in less than 39 drawings and I understood that 28 numbers is more than 25 numbers and knew that 25 or less numbers are drawn in five consecutive matches. So there are thousands of groups of 28 numbers that will match 5 numbers every five consecutive drawings. If my mathematical argument still doesn't prove it to them, your use of specific groups of 28 before the drawings should.
If Jimmy and others still can't believe some number combinations do get better odds, they can ask a 5-year-old why 5 pennies is more then 1 penny.
You seem to be forgetting that statiscal analysis requires far more work than you're pointing out. FAR more. In fact your argument is inherently fallicious, in that you are comparing two entirely different branches of mathemtics, as if they're exactly the same concept. They aren't even close. Arithmetic and Statistics are just far too differnt to be compared in that manner.
Of course it's convenient for people to just over simplify things like you just did, to the point where they aren't even using the right math, but that doesn't make it correct.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 16, 2013
I thought mathematical acceptance was when we first understood 5 of something is more than 1 of something; like 5 pennies are more than one penny and any 5-year-old that understands it, is generally accepted. Calculating the probability of any group of 28 numbers having a five number match is a little more complex math, but the results show there should be 1 five number match in the next 39 outcomes.
You ran a test using a group of 28 numbers and had 5 five number matches in less than 39 drawings and I understood that 28 numbers is more than 25 numbers and knew that 25 or less numbers are drawn in five consecutive matches. So there are thousands of groups of 28 numbers that will match 5 numbers every five consecutive drawings. If my mathematical argument still doesn't prove it to them, your use of specific groups of 28 before the drawings should.
If Jimmy and others still can't believe some number combinations do get better odds, they can ask a 5-year-old why 5 pennies is more then 1 penny.
You make a good point that 1 year of data is only 104 draws out of 175 million. That's why I chose to keep the bonus number as merely a "bonus" and focus on hitting 5 of 5 with 1 in 39 odds.
As I have said many times, Mediabrats One in a 1000 blog would have required about 9.6 years to hit 5+1 using 175,000 lines per draw. I was only looking to improve slightly on the 9.6 year time horizon.
Oopsa daisy..... Not only did I hit 5+1 in less than 39 draws, so did one of my fellow players.
Lets just say we got lucky and call it a day...........
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Quote: Originally posted by Boney526 on Jan 16, 2013
You seem to be forgetting that statiscal analysis requires far more work than you're pointing out. FAR more. In fact your argument is inherently fallicious, in that you are comparing two entirely different branches of mathemtics, as if they're exactly the same concept. They aren't even close. Arithmetic and Statistics are just far too differnt to be compared in that manner.
Of course it's convenient for people to just over simplify things like you just did, to the point where they aren't even using the right math, but that doesn't make it correct.
Igorance is bliss, isn't it?
"In fact your argument is inherently fallicious, in that you are comparing two entirely different branches of mathemtics, as if they're exactly the same concept."
I suppose counting to 5 or 28 is a little different than dividing 3,819,816 by 98,280, but the average 8 or 9-year-old can do it and very easy too with that new invention, the calculator. We may have to ask a 14-year-old how to calculate the number of possible outcomes in 5/56 and 5/28, but after all the extremelydifficult simple calculations, the average 5-year-old will tell you "5 pennies are more than 1 penny".
"Of course it's convenient for people to just over simplify things like you just did, to the point where they aren't even using the right math, but that doesn't make it correct."
Do you want to argue that 5 pennies is not more than 1 penny or that 28 numbers is not more than 25 or less numbers?
"Igorance is bliss, isn't it?"
Ronnie asked if it's possible for a group of 28 numbers to get more than 1 five number match in 39 drawings. True ignorance is saying it's not possible after being shown the mathematical facts.
Run a Monte Carlo simulation based on 50,000 $1 QP players playing you mythical game every day for five years and give a detailed report; maybe that will empress someone.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 17, 2013
Run a Monte Carlo simulation based on 50,000 $1 QP players playing you mythical game every day for five years and give a detailed report; maybe that will empress someone.
Thank you Stack for trying to stay on topic in spite of all the disruptive posts of boney and jim.
It occurs to me that the 5 timesBETTER ODDS I achieved in the 39 draw trial DID NOT include hitting the bonus number on one of those 5 of 5's which adds the 1 in 46 element to those odds........
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 17, 2013
Run a Monte Carlo simulation based on 50,000 $1 QP players playing you mythical game every day for five years and give a detailed report; maybe that will empress someone.
In the link posted by Jimmmy april 1, 1964, he clearly stated that he has never tried to pick any winning numbers, and I think we can begin to see he and boney have the same mental and emotional issues.
What we have proven here {without dispute) is that people who TRY to pick winning numbers, can pick winning numbers which is something the doubters and haters will never comprehend from withing their lucid egg shell existence.