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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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The point is that if somebody cannot even do the simple math to explain the odds of winning a 4/8 game, then their claim that they have better odds than others is certainly without merit.

Well I cant really do the simple math to explain the force of gravity.

But that doesn't keep it from holding me down, or refuting the existence thereof.

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Every lottery website say ~70% of their winners used a similar system but so do their losers too.

~70% of their losers buy quick picks, now what does that suggest?   Think about it.

If 70% of all tickets purchased are Quickpicks and 70% of the winners bought Quickpicks, It would appear that 30% of the winners chose their own numbers.  Using the same information, and logic, it should be no surprise that 70% of the losing tickets are Quickpicks as well.  So, what is your point?

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I was going to reply to this. Had some stuff to say, but forgot it. Tired i guess.

I like the links. There pretty cool. When you said the lottery had been figured out already though, it kinda threw me a little.

You got the guys number that did it? If i get stuck I might need to give them a call and see how they did it.

Greenfox,

The reason I said the question of the possibility of increasing your odds of winning a Lotto game is NOT an unsolved problem is because it is a nonstarter.  It has held this status for hundreds of years.  You are assuming I meant that someone had solved the problem and is hiding the result.  This is not the case.

If you really wish to persist in your pursuit of this goal, I seriously suggest you use my simple 5 Ball Lotto model to test your ideas.  If you come up with something that will allow you to increase your expected ROI in that game beyond 0.55, you can then extrapolate it to a playable game in your state.

--Jimmy4164

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First of all boney, I never claimed to know the fundamentals of mathematics..............

Secondly, I didnt "call him dumb" I said "he says the dumbest things" which is a opinion about what he said.

Despite the fact that you are correct, that you didn't outright call him dumb, you must recognize that you've been implying it for some time now.

Context matters.  And you can pick and choose from your past words as much as you want, but saying things like "a buffoon could get better odds" and replying to his comment by saying "he says the dumbest things" when what he was saying was actually completely accurate makes you look dumb.

Statements like "I have better odds" and "I never claimed to know the fundementals of mathemetics" directly contradict each other.  So I guess you could figure it out.

If you can't work out the odds of a draw 4 out of 8 game, then why should anybody trust your claim that you have better odds?  It's illogical to do believe you, and it's illogical for you to make contradictary claims.

Oh I forgot, your mind doesn't work that way.  Fair enough.  Your mind doesn't work with proof or logic.  If that's the case, then how can you claim it's undisputable fact that you have better odds?

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The point is that if somebody cannot even do the simple math to explain the odds of winning a 4/8 game, then their claim that they have better odds than others is certainly without merit.

You've been a member long enough to have noticed all the wish list topics when any jackpot reaches \$100 million so you should know by now the majority of players are oblivious to the odds.

then their claim that they have better odds than others is certainly without merit."

All the claims of getting better odds are not only comparing those bets to QPs, but are based on meeting conditions. Considering 2.5% of all MM bets will win nothing and even if the conditions are not met that player can't expect to do worse than a like number of QPs. The discussion was always about meeting the conditions yet you keep on making remarks about things never said.

Let's talk about the mathematical fact over 19,000 groups of 28 numbers will get a five number in the next five consecutive drawings. And then you can elaborate on why those groups will get five times better odds than any of the 28 number groups with 1. The probability is 87% of all 28 number groups won't have one five number match in the next five drawings.

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 Posted: January 15, 2013, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

Despite the fact that you are correct, that you didn't outright call him dumb, you must recognize that you've been implying it for some time now.

Context matters.  And you can pick and choose from your past words as much as you want, but saying things like "a buffoon could get better odds" and replying to his comment by saying "he says the dumbest things" when what he was saying was actually completely accurate makes you look dumb.

Statements like "I have better odds" and "I never claimed to know the fundementals of mathemetics" directly contradict each other.  So I guess you could figure it out.

If you can't work out the odds of a draw 4 out of 8 game, then why should anybody trust your claim that you have better odds?  It's illogical to do believe you, and it's illogical for you to make contradictary claims.

Oh I forgot, your mind doesn't work that way.  Fair enough.  Your mind doesn't work with proof or logic.  If that's the case, then how can you claim it's undisputable fact that you have better odds?

Boney I feel like your just bating me and bating me into making lengthy complicated responses and I can tell you that its NOT going to happen. In the post I'm quote above you write 5 paragraphs.

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So where do you want me to start Boney?? Paragraph 1?????

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Despite the fact that you are correct, that you didn't outright call him dumb, you must recognize that you've been implying it for some time now.

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I'd really only like you to respond to the bolded parts of my statements.  Everything else is me just responding to you.  If you feel it's necesarry to clarify why you're above the general rules of conversation and etiquette, you can.

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You seem to misinterpret the whole overall theme of whats going on here boney. I am giving an opinion..... In other words I DONT think Jim is dumb in the sense of being a stupid person...................

I personally feel its "dumb" to be so closed minded about the subject at hand being "unsolvable" and just because there are "100s of years" of evidence means nothing to me.....

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I'd really only like you to respond to the bolded parts of my statements.  Everything else is me just responding to you.  If you feel it's necesarry to clarify why you're above the general rules of conversation and etiquette, you can.

If that's the case, then how can you claim it's undisputable fact that you have better odds?

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If that's the case, then how can you claim it's undisputable fact that you have better odds?

This is the only "bolded" part I see so this should be easy..................

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This is the only "bolded" part I see so this should be easy..................

Even though this is not about "me" getting better odds........ I can claim it because it was achieved in a 39 draw trial.

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What I'm trying to say boney is that this is a discussion forum and people are allowed to have opinions that you don't agree with and may possibly even be in error..............

Your not in charge of correcting every wrong and judging every opinion........

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What I'm trying to say boney is that this is a discussion forum and people are allowed to have opinions that you don't agree with and may possibly even be in error..............

Your not in charge of correcting every wrong and judging every opinion........

So what if it is a "nonstarter" issue?? And so what if it is a "waste of time"?? Who made you and Jim and Mediabrat a judge over how I (or others) choose to use time and wither or NOT its a waste.......

You guys are judging other people based on your own personal (egg shell) perspectives.......

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