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Posted: January 20, 2013, 2:10 am - IP Logged

Greenfox,

You said, "Cause if you need a definite pattern i can show you as many as you want to see. On ANY drawn lottery game. I will say they are sporadic but patterns none the less. They may even be random to you. But that would only be because you haven't looked at them the thousands of times i have to give me the the intuition to know what to look for."

Based on these observations, I'm hopeful you will be willing to look above at my request of Stack47 for guidance and tell us what your thousands of observations of patterns has led you to conclude regarding the quantitative effect of intuitive faith, or faith based intuition, on your probability of selecting a winning set of numbers.

--Jimmy4164

Well i can tell you that a quick pick hasn't done anything for me. I can tell you that i have had many upon many tickets of no more than 5 lines on the PB that have been so close that i could have bit a nail into. Many many times now. I haven't worked on the PB in a spell. Life occurences have kept me out of the game. But i can guarantee you that i have seen enough to know with what little i know about math, probability, and patterns that it can be done. Not just once have i gotten close. May not have won yet, but close over and over is not random. That is progression. Progression that no QP has ever shown me. Ever. You know, just because noone has "figured out" how to the exact pattern, it doesn't mean that someone won't do it? You do know that don't you? Just because anything hasn't been done doesn't mean that it won't be done. It's been proven on more important things than the lottery that if someone wants something done bad enough and has the faith to do it can be done.

You know, if i set out and work on the games as i have spent many an hour doing. The first time i try to win by picking, i may not win. And the first time i even tried i got three numbers right. That's half. Plus the powerball cause i bought 42 sets of the same numbers. But the next time, i may not get as many.  But i found that by keeping at it and trying, i was seeing more and more with it. Kind of like going to school. The more you do the more you learn. Now in time i got to seeing that i may not have any numbers right on a 5 line ticket, but they would all be 10 digits off from the numbers that where drew. Now, your saying that isn't even close. But, i see exacly 10 digits off. That's a pattern of progress. Not just one time, but over and over and over again. Then i started seeing how I'd have 2 digits right, in numeric order and be 5 digits off from the others. Still, nothing? Not even close. I'm talking exactly 5 digits off on the remaining three. That's patterns. That is in no way random if it is done over and over and over again. It just is not. Once in a while is random. Not every Wednesday and Saturday night. So that tells me it can be done. The only thing that has kept me from winning and i will guarantee you, is a lack of faith. And i guarantee you that. You want some guarantees. Not in the Lord above, but in the fact of deserving. In the fact of the way the world is and greed amongst people. Now i don't care whether or not you or anyone else believes what I'm saying. I know what I've seen and done. Just like Ronnie and the rest care whether or not you beileve them. As long as there is progress, I don't see anyone quitting what they enjoy, just because you or anyone else says it's not possible.

And faith, is a measure. A huge measure. The largest measure of anything.

That's all i got to say about this.

 

HTTP://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Numbers

You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

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When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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    Well i can tell you that a quick pick hasn't done anything for me. I can tell you that i have had many upon many tickets of no more than 5 lines on the PB that have been so close that i could have bit a nail into. Many many times now. I haven't worked on the PB in a spell. Life occurences have kept me out of the game. But i can guarantee you that i have seen enough to know with what little i know about math, probability, and patterns that it can be done. Not just once have i gotten close. May not have won yet, but close over and over is not random. That is progression. Progression that no QP has ever shown me. Ever. You know, just because noone has "figured out" how to the exact pattern, it doesn't mean that someone won't do it? You do know that don't you? Just because anything hasn't been done doesn't mean that it won't be done. It's been proven on more important things than the lottery that if someone wants something done bad enough and has the faith to do it can be done.

    You know, if i set out and work on the games as i have spent many an hour doing. The first time i try to win by picking, i may not win. And the first time i even tried i got three numbers right. That's half. Plus the powerball cause i bought 42 sets of the same numbers. But the next time, i may not get as many.  But i found that by keeping at it and trying, i was seeing more and more with it. Kind of like going to school. The more you do the more you learn. Now in time i got to seeing that i may not have any numbers right on a 5 line ticket, but they would all be 10 digits off from the numbers that where drew. Now, your saying that isn't even close. But, i see exacly 10 digits off. That's a pattern of progress. Not just one time, but over and over and over again. Then i started seeing how I'd have 2 digits right, in numeric order and be 5 digits off from the others. Still, nothing? Not even close. I'm talking exactly 5 digits off on the remaining three. That's patterns. That is in no way random if it is done over and over and over again. It just is not. Once in a while is random. Not every Wednesday and Saturday night. So that tells me it can be done. The only thing that has kept me from winning and i will guarantee you, is a lack of faith. And i guarantee you that. You want some guarantees. Not in the Lord above, but in the fact of deserving. In the fact of the way the world is and greed amongst people. Now i don't care whether or not you or anyone else believes what I'm saying. I know what I've seen and done. Just like Ronnie and the rest care whether or not you beileve them. As long as there is progress, I don't see anyone quitting what they enjoy, just because you or anyone else says it's not possible.

    And faith, is a measure. A huge measure. The largest measure of anything.

    That's all i got to say about this.

     

    HTTP://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Numbers

    Thinking of...


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      Posted: January 20, 2013, 4:53 am - IP Logged

      Thinking of...

      When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous.

      It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu, but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin.

      http://catlin.casinocitytimes.com/article/lottery-nonsense-8694

      --Jimmy4164

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        When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous.

        It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu, but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin.

        http://catlin.casinocitytimes.com/article/lottery-nonsense-8694

        --Jimmy4164

        Post by LottoBoner but sounds like something Jimmy4164 would write. What?

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          If the odds are constant, why does it say the odds against matching the bonus number is 1 in 75 when any self pick player can match the bonus number by playing all 46 bonus numbers?

          Is this a serious question?

           

          Because if you do match one bonus ball, there's also a chance that you matched MORE than one bonus ball.

           

          If you add the chance of just that ball, plus the odds of that ball and (1,2,3,4 and 5) white balls, it would be exacly 1 in 46 odds.  What I don't understand is how the clearly mathemetically illiterate are going to make convuluted arguments that they no are non sense.

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            So there you go boney...............

            There is your "indisputable" evidence that a jackpot can be won on purpose by intelligent design. I know you wont agree and may not even respond, but now that its been done it can be done again by others.

            There you go putting words in my mouth again.

             

            Of course it can be won by anyone.  My point is that nobody gets better odds than anyone else.  You are seriously, seriously twisting my words around.

             

            And you admit that there is no proof, no methodology, nothing intelligent that you are doing.  YOU JUST GOT LUCKY in a game without any money on it.  That's not proof that you have better odds.  If you seriously think that's what it means, get over yourself.  You're not special when you buy lottery tickets.  Your tickets are the same as anyone elses.

             

            Even if you disagree with me, it's incredibly ignorant to say that you have indisputable evidence that you gain better odds, when you can't even work out the simple math for a 4/8 game.  It's OK not to be good at math.  It's not OK to claim that you have better odds, when you can't even calculate SIMPLE ODDS.

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              Well i can tell you that a quick pick hasn't done anything for me. I can tell you that i have had many upon many tickets of no more than 5 lines on the PB that have been so close that i could have bit a nail into. Many many times now. I haven't worked on the PB in a spell. Life occurences have kept me out of the game. But i can guarantee you that i have seen enough to know with what little i know about math, probability, and patterns that it can be done. Not just once have i gotten close. May not have won yet, but close over and over is not random. That is progression. Progression that no QP has ever shown me. Ever. You know, just because noone has "figured out" how to the exact pattern, it doesn't mean that someone won't do it? You do know that don't you? Just because anything hasn't been done doesn't mean that it won't be done. It's been proven on more important things than the lottery that if someone wants something done bad enough and has the faith to do it can be done.

              You know, if i set out and work on the games as i have spent many an hour doing. The first time i try to win by picking, i may not win. And the first time i even tried i got three numbers right. That's half. Plus the powerball cause i bought 42 sets of the same numbers. But the next time, i may not get as many.  But i found that by keeping at it and trying, i was seeing more and more with it. Kind of like going to school. The more you do the more you learn. Now in time i got to seeing that i may not have any numbers right on a 5 line ticket, but they would all be 10 digits off from the numbers that where drew. Now, your saying that isn't even close. But, i see exacly 10 digits off. That's a pattern of progress. Not just one time, but over and over and over again. Then i started seeing how I'd have 2 digits right, in numeric order and be 5 digits off from the others. Still, nothing? Not even close. I'm talking exactly 5 digits off on the remaining three. That's patterns. That is in no way random if it is done over and over and over again. It just is not. Once in a while is random. Not every Wednesday and Saturday night. So that tells me it can be done. The only thing that has kept me from winning and i will guarantee you, is a lack of faith. And i guarantee you that. You want some guarantees. Not in the Lord above, but in the fact of deserving. In the fact of the way the world is and greed amongst people. Now i don't care whether or not you or anyone else believes what I'm saying. I know what I've seen and done. Just like Ronnie and the rest care whether or not you beileve them. As long as there is progress, I don't see anyone quitting what they enjoy, just because you or anyone else says it's not possible.

              And faith, is a measure. A huge measure. The largest measure of anything.

              That's all i got to say about this.

               

              HTTP://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Numbers

              "Not just once have i gotten close. May not have won yet, but close over and over is not random."

              If you're talking about matching a couple of numbers and having the rest of them be one-off, believe me, it's not that rare.

              Not with me anyway.


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                There you go putting words in my mouth again.

                 

                Of course it can be won by anyone.  My point is that nobody gets better odds than anyone else.  You are seriously, seriously twisting my words around.

                 

                And you admit that there is no proof, no methodology, nothing intelligent that you are doing.  YOU JUST GOT LUCKY in a game without any money on it.  That's not proof that you have better odds.  If you seriously think that's what it means, get over yourself.  You're not special when you buy lottery tickets.  Your tickets are the same as anyone elses.

                 

                Even if you disagree with me, it's incredibly ignorant to say that you have indisputable evidence that you gain better odds, when you can't even work out the simple math for a 4/8 game.  It's OK not to be good at math.  It's not OK to claim that you have better odds, when you can't even calculate SIMPLE ODDS.

                Your the one claiming that there needs to be some mathematical explanation to all of this. You and Jimmy should be working together in the math forum to prove your case. Picking 28 winning numbers dosent require any math, and neither does picking a single winning bonus number to go with the 28 numbers, just timing.


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                  "Not just once have i gotten close. May not have won yet, but close over and over is not random."

                  If you're talking about matching a couple of numbers and having the rest of them be one-off, believe me, it's not that rare.

                  Not with me anyway.

                  I Agree! Its crazy having them all postioned correcly and two of them are just off.....

                  Like................. 3 12 25 37 51

                  And have ticket 3 12 24 37 53

                  Too bad 3+0 is 3+0 no matter how close it is, and only pays $7. lol. lol. lol.


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                    There you go putting words in my mouth again.

                     

                    Of course it can be won by anyone.  My point is that nobody gets better odds than anyone else.  You are seriously, seriously twisting my words around.

                     

                    And you admit that there is no proof, no methodology, nothing intelligent that you are doing.  YOU JUST GOT LUCKY in a game without any money on it.  That's not proof that you have better odds.  If you seriously think that's what it means, get over yourself.  You're not special when you buy lottery tickets.  Your tickets are the same as anyone elses.

                     

                    Even if you disagree with me, it's incredibly ignorant to say that you have indisputable evidence that you gain better odds, when you can't even work out the simple math for a 4/8 game.  It's OK not to be good at math.  It's not OK to claim that you have better odds, when you can't even calculate SIMPLE ODDS.

                    Besides boney, no matter how badly you want to make this about "me getting over myself" I'm not the only one who hit 5+1 in the short time frame of 39 draws. But I'm sure that wont cause you to get over yourself and take a closer look.

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                      I Agree! Its crazy having them all postioned correcly and two of them are just off.....

                      Like................. 3 12 25 37 51

                      And have ticket 3 12 24 37 53

                      Too bad 3+0 is 3+0 no matter how close it is, and only pays $7. lol. lol. lol.

                      Roger that, but my specialty is matching just 2 numbers and the rest are one up or down. 

                      The benefit of which will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks if I add $4 to it.


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                        A human has BETTER ODDS of picking winning numbers than a computer..........

                        It reminds me of when IBM created Deep Blue to beat a human at chess and succeeded. Only this time the computer will lose because....... THERE IS NO MATH TO CALCULATE..........


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                            Its too bad some RNG computer nerd (who believes in failure) like boney or medbrat wont step forward and accept the One in 39 challenge.............


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