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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: January 20, 2013, 6:02 pm - IP Logged

Your the one claiming that there needs to be some mathematical explanation to all of this. You and Jimmy should be working together in the math forum to prove your case. Picking 28 winning numbers dosent require any math, and neither does picking a single winning bonus number to go with the 28 numbers, just timing.

I Agree! The Math forum could use the activity but I think Boney and Jimmy prefer to battle in this thread.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    Stack47,

    Finally!  You are admitting to the reality of the situation.  OK, since we apparently agree that selecting a 28 number subset from which to select your tickets does not guarantee a win, I assume we must, by necessity, agree that there is a certain amount of UNCERTAINTY associated with your methods.

    Those of us who rely on traditional probability theory, the same theory employed by physicists to study problems in Quantum Mechanics, believe that your odds of winning for each ticket purchased is 175 Million to 1.

    Please, please, give us a ball park estimate of what you believe YOUR improved odds are when you select your numbers from a set of 28, rather than the 56 we traditionalists select from.

    --Jimmy4164

    Jimmy the Distraction said: "how many tickets they might expect to purchase over the 39 draws they keep referring to, in order to guarantee their big win?"

    But nobody made any "big win" guarantees and now because of that, he believes we need another boring lecture.

    I'll give a guarantee, 51 numbers won't be drawn in the next drawing and neither will 45 of the bonus numbers. It's none of my business if you want to purchase randomly chosen QPs that probably will have five of those 51 numbers and one of the 45 bonus numbers.

    Jimmy, you ought to look up the words synonymous with "distraction".

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/distraction?s=t

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      Posted: January 20, 2013, 10:05 pm - IP Logged

      Is this a serious question?

       

      Because if you do match one bonus ball, there's also a chance that you matched MORE than one bonus ball.

       

      If you add the chance of just that ball, plus the odds of that ball and (1,2,3,4 and 5) white balls, it would be exacly 1 in 46 odds.  What I don't understand is how the clearly mathemetically illiterate are going to make convuluted arguments that they no are non sense.

      "Because if you do match one bonus ball, there's also a chance that you matched MORE than one bonus ball."

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

      It sure looks like the chart says "1 in 76" for matching 0 + 1 and gives the chances of matching 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 numbers with the bonus number too. 

      "What I don't understand is how the clearly mathemetically illiterate are going to make convuluted arguments that they no are non sense."

      Take it up with Mega Millions because it's their chart, not mine. And just maybe they will explain to you those odds means 1 in every 75 tickets should match 0 + 0.

      "Is this a serious question?"

      You tell me; RL got a laugh out of it and you took it serious.

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        Posted: January 20, 2013, 10:11 pm - IP Logged

        "Because if you do match one bonus ball, there's also a chance that you matched MORE than one bonus ball."

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

        It sure looks like the chart says "1 in 76" for matching 0 + 1 and gives the chances of matching 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 numbers with the bonus number too. 

        "What I don't understand is how the clearly mathemetically illiterate are going to make convuluted arguments that they no are non sense."

        Take it up with Mega Millions because it's their chart, not mine. And just maybe they will explain to you those odds means 1 in every 75 tickets should match 0 + 0.

        "Is this a serious question?"

        You tell me; RL got a laugh out of it and you took it serious.

        If you added the probabilities of getting 5+1, 4+1, 3+1, 2+1, 1+1 and 0+1 you'd get .021739.....  or 1 in 46.  There chart is accurate, and you are misinterpreting the data is provides.

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          Posted: January 20, 2013, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

          I have to check out, but I will be laughing the rest of the day over that one.............

          If you match both the numbers the jackpot is 4 bucks and a quarter for matching one number.

          Do you think Jimmy has pitched his new game to any of the state lotteries?

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            Posted: January 20, 2013, 11:08 pm - IP Logged

            If you added the probabilities of getting 5+1, 4+1, 3+1, 2+1, 1+1 and 0+1 you'd get .021739.....  or 1 in 46.  There chart is accurate, and you are misinterpreting the data is provides.

            "There chart is accurate, and you are misinterpreting the data is provides."

            The chart is accurate but somewhat misleading to the average player, but then you wouldn't had the chance to show off your math skills.

            Thanks for the input, but I already knew the odds against any of the 3,819,816 possible combinations matching the bonus number. I also know that 2,349,060 of the 3,819,816 combinations will not match a number, but about 2.17% of them should match just the bonus number.

            But right now we're only interested in the 1,470,756 combinations that do match at least one number and trying to reduce that to 98,280 combos without removing the one combinations that matches all five numbers. If you really want to empress us with your math skills, why not help the cause?

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              "If you really want to empress us with your math skills, why not help the cause?"

               

              I don't care to impress, nor do I care to take an a fruitless endevour.  It's not a goal that is any more likely through work or a random methodology.


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                Jimmy the Distraction said: "how many tickets they might expect to purchase over the 39 draws they keep referring to, in order to guarantee their big win?"

                But nobody made any "big win" guarantees and now because of that, he believes we need another boring lecture.

                I'll give a guarantee, 51 numbers won't be drawn in the next drawing and neither will 45 of the bonus numbers. It's none of my business if you want to purchase randomly chosen QPs that probably will have five of those 51 numbers and one of the 45 bonus numbers.

                Jimmy, you ought to look up the words synonymous with "distraction".

                http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/distraction?s=t

                What do you feel you are being distracted from?

                During the hours I'm gone from here, I see nothing but drivel in this thread.  Without Boney526 and myself pointing out the flaws in your logic, it would consist of no more than you repeatedly telling us there are less combinations of 28 things taken 5 at a time than 56 things taken 5 at a time and Ronnie326 posting one liners and an occasional list of 28 intuitively selected numbers.

                What's your point?

                --Jimmy4164

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                    Posted: January 21, 2013, 10:21 am - IP Logged

                    I take it computer games are out of the question. They can be prgrammed to drop any numbers as the lottery sees fit. As in the Fantasy 5 in MI. At a 3 month spot check, a few draws with all odd numbers.

                     

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                        What do you feel you are being distracted from?

                        During the hours I'm gone from here, I see nothing but drivel in this thread.  Without Boney526 and myself pointing out the flaws in your logic, it would consist of no more than you repeatedly telling us there are less combinations of 28 things taken 5 at a time than 56 things taken 5 at a time and Ronnie326 posting one liners and an occasional list of 28 intuitively selected numbers.

                        What's your point?

                        --Jimmy4164

                        Really Jimmy? Whats the point? 

                        You bombard this thread your questions about what the point is, and complaints about my one lines posts in a state of ignorance over this being a lottery forum where and we are TRYING to win a jackpot. 3 lines.


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                          Posted: January 21, 2013, 10:34 am - IP Logged

                          I Agree! The Math forum could use the activity but I think Boney and Jimmy prefer to battle in this thread.

                          Exactly, These guys dont seem to have any initiative of their own. It reminds my when boney told me to go sit in a corner and flip a coin 5000 times tracking the results, so I could report back to him my findings. 2 lines.


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                            Posted: January 21, 2013, 10:36 am - IP Logged

                            You never even buy a lottery ticket Jimmy, so what is your point?


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                              Posted: January 21, 2013, 10:38 am - IP Logged

                              Jimmy reminds me of medbrat, he wants to show up here and judge peoples conversation as "drivel"

                              I wonder if that makes him feel superior to other people?

                                 
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