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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: January 23, 2013, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

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    Your the one one insisted that "statistical proof" needed to be offered and as soon as I realized that it already had been offered by 6 different people you reverted back to finger pointing and drivel.

    That's not statiscal evidence.

     

    Ask the casino operators who have a losing day on a gaming table if that's proof that they don't have an edge.

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      Posted: January 23, 2013, 8:40 pm - IP Logged

      Perhaps boney should take a closer look at: 

      Conditional probability

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability 

      LMAO dude.

       

      OK buddy.  You're using ONE part of the equation and ignoring the other.  Then you're telling me that I have to take a closer look?  Yeah, OK...

       

      Maybe you should understand the things you talk about.  Or at least, read the links you post.

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        Now you an authority on "the nature of the universe"? Now there is a grandiose claim..........

        Not me.  Other people are those leading authorities and the more complex subjects are constintly developing.

         

        But 1+1=2, and 1 in 10 is 10% and NOBODY credible is saying those things aren't true.

         

        Much the same, you're claim that you will NEVER go down to the statistical mean is to say that you are ABOVE THE LAWS OF NATURE.

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          Not me.  Other people are those leading authorities and the more complex subjects are constintly developing.

           

          But 1+1=2, and 1 in 10 is 10% and NOBODY credible is saying those things aren't true.

           

          Much the same, you're claim that you will NEVER go down to the statistical mean is to say that you are ABOVE THE LAWS OF NATURE.

          That is, unless, you get lucky and stop playing.

           

          If you continue to play indefinetely, then you will probably lose eventually.  I can't tell you what will happen, but I can tell you that there is no definitive reason why you will or will not succeed at a game of chance, assuming that the STD DEV is so large.

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            Hello,

            I came on here several months ago as MathKat and was banned for trying to post a link.


            I've been watching for some time and I resigned up earlier today. I won't make the same mistake twice. The link I tried to post was merely a link to the USA Mega site that shows where you can look up the past drawings and a comprehensive search where you can put in a set of numbers and it will show you how many times that set has come up and how many winning combinations of that set has come up. IE: 3 + M.

             

            I've been pouring over the numbers when I have time, which unfortunately I have very little.

            But what I've been doing my search based on the Mega Numbers. In other words I search each winning ticket for a particular winning number and marking down the results. So far I've only gotten through 20 of the mega numbers so my table is no where near done. But I have so far documented (and continuously updated) the results of 508 out of the 1636 drawings from over the past 16 years 5 months (roughly) and what I've come up with so far is this (and keep in mind that this is only based on those 508 drawings so far, but they are spread out through out) is that there have been no repeats of any 5 + M, 5 (w/o M), or 4 + M combos. Not a single one. There are times where 4 number combos have been repeated but it's rare. Repeats of M + 3 combos are also rare. Much more commonly repeated are 3 number, M+2, and Mega + 1 (obviously).

            Again this is not complete data the mega numbers I've searched so far are 1, 4, 10, 13, 14, 16, 19, 27, 29, 32, 36, 39, 41, 44, (and the ones no longer in use I did these just get them out of the way and for the purpose of having all possible data: 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, & 52) so I guess really if you look at it this way I've really only completed 14 of the 46 that really count.

            I would like to post my graph (even though it's not complete) so my information above will actually make some sense. But I'm afraid of getting botted again, so I'm not sure how to go about it.

            I could try copy and pasting it, but I don't know how well that will work.

            But if you're looking for number combos that have a more likely chance of winning, my best advice is to use the search on the USA Mega site and make sure you're picking combos that have never come up before. Also if you really think consecutive numbers, all even #s, all odd numbers, will help you, you definitely incorporate those into your strategy. I don't think that really matters personally. But it couldn't hurt to try it.


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              Not me.  Other people are those leading authorities and the more complex subjects are constintly developing.

               

              But 1+1=2, and 1 in 10 is 10% and NOBODY credible is saying those things aren't true.

               

              Much the same, you're claim that you will NEVER go down to the statistical mean is to say that you are ABOVE THE LAWS OF NATURE.

              LOL. You live inside SUCH A BOX, boney. lol. lol. The word NEVER as applied to a human being is maybe 75 - 100 years depending on good fortunes and good health. 

              You don't seem to get that I agree with you in principle and Im not reconstructing 1+1........

              But at the same Im happy to sacrifice better odds in a 1000 years from now to get BETTER ODDS now.


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                Posted: January 24, 2013, 9:36 am - IP Logged

                That's not statiscal evidence.

                 

                Ask the casino operators who have a losing day on a gaming table if that's proof that they don't have an edge.

                Excuse me boney, but don't they KICK OUT the the source of "losing days" if they return too consistently?


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                  LMAO dude.

                   

                  OK buddy.  You're using ONE part of the equation and ignoring the other.  Then you're telling me that I have to take a closer look?  Yeah, OK...

                   

                  Maybe you should understand the things you talk about.  Or at least, read the links you post.

                  To read that link I would have needed my rose colored glasses that are buried in the closet somewhere.


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                    Posted: January 24, 2013, 9:48 am - IP Logged

                    Hello,

                    I came on here several months ago as MathKat and was banned for trying to post a link.


                    I've been watching for some time and I resigned up earlier today. I won't make the same mistake twice. The link I tried to post was merely a link to the USA Mega site that shows where you can look up the past drawings and a comprehensive search where you can put in a set of numbers and it will show you how many times that set has come up and how many winning combinations of that set has come up. IE: 3 + M.

                     

                    I've been pouring over the numbers when I have time, which unfortunately I have very little.

                    But what I've been doing my search based on the Mega Numbers. In other words I search each winning ticket for a particular winning number and marking down the results. So far I've only gotten through 20 of the mega numbers so my table is no where near done. But I have so far documented (and continuously updated) the results of 508 out of the 1636 drawings from over the past 16 years 5 months (roughly) and what I've come up with so far is this (and keep in mind that this is only based on those 508 drawings so far, but they are spread out through out) is that there have been no repeats of any 5 + M, 5 (w/o M), or 4 + M combos. Not a single one. There are times where 4 number combos have been repeated but it's rare. Repeats of M + 3 combos are also rare. Much more commonly repeated are 3 number, M+2, and Mega + 1 (obviously).

                    Again this is not complete data the mega numbers I've searched so far are 1, 4, 10, 13, 14, 16, 19, 27, 29, 32, 36, 39, 41, 44, (and the ones no longer in use I did these just get them out of the way and for the purpose of having all possible data: 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, & 52) so I guess really if you look at it this way I've really only completed 14 of the 46 that really count.

                    I would like to post my graph (even though it's not complete) so my information above will actually make some sense. But I'm afraid of getting botted again, so I'm not sure how to go about it.

                    I could try copy and pasting it, but I don't know how well that will work.

                    But if you're looking for number combos that have a more likely chance of winning, my best advice is to use the search on the USA Mega site and make sure you're picking combos that have never come up before. Also if you really think consecutive numbers, all even #s, all odd numbers, will help you, you definitely incorporate those into your strategy. I don't think that really matters personally. But it couldn't hurt to try it.

                    Thanks for posting  SoCalNative most of us here will encourage you to follow your dreams and keep searching.


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                      Posted: January 24, 2013, 3:02 pm - IP Logged

                      Hello,

                      I came on here several months ago as MathKat and was banned for trying to post a link.


                      I've been watching for some time and I resigned up earlier today. I won't make the same mistake twice. The link I tried to post was merely a link to the USA Mega site that shows where you can look up the past drawings and a comprehensive search where you can put in a set of numbers and it will show you how many times that set has come up and how many winning combinations of that set has come up. IE: 3 + M.

                       

                      I've been pouring over the numbers when I have time, which unfortunately I have very little.

                      But what I've been doing my search based on the Mega Numbers. In other words I search each winning ticket for a particular winning number and marking down the results. So far I've only gotten through 20 of the mega numbers so my table is no where near done. But I have so far documented (and continuously updated) the results of 508 out of the 1636 drawings from over the past 16 years 5 months (roughly) and what I've come up with so far is this (and keep in mind that this is only based on those 508 drawings so far, but they are spread out through out) is that there have been no repeats of any 5 + M, 5 (w/o M), or 4 + M combos. Not a single one. There are times where 4 number combos have been repeated but it's rare. Repeats of M + 3 combos are also rare. Much more commonly repeated are 3 number, M+2, and Mega + 1 (obviously).

                      Again this is not complete data the mega numbers I've searched so far are 1, 4, 10, 13, 14, 16, 19, 27, 29, 32, 36, 39, 41, 44, (and the ones no longer in use I did these just get them out of the way and for the purpose of having all possible data: 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, & 52) so I guess really if you look at it this way I've really only completed 14 of the 46 that really count.

                      I would like to post my graph (even though it's not complete) so my information above will actually make some sense. But I'm afraid of getting botted again, so I'm not sure how to go about it.

                      I could try copy and pasting it, but I don't know how well that will work.

                      But if you're looking for number combos that have a more likely chance of winning, my best advice is to use the search on the USA Mega site and make sure you're picking combos that have never come up before. Also if you really think consecutive numbers, all even #s, all odd numbers, will help you, you definitely incorporate those into your strategy. I don't think that really matters personally. But it couldn't hurt to try it.

                      SoCalNative,

                      As you pointed out, it took about 16 years for the 1636 drawings you've studied to be made. Since, at 2 per week, it will take at least about 1.7 MILLION years before all of the possible combinations of this Mega game are drawn, I'm surprised that you're surprised that you didn't find the repeats you looked for. A good exercise for you would be to calculate how often these 4+ and 5+ combos might be expected to recur on a random basis.

                      When you said, "But if you're looking for number combos that have a more likely chance of winning, my best advice is to use the search on the USA Mega site and make sure you're picking combos that have never come up before.," you made it clear where you stand regarding the issue of the effects of past drawings on the future. This short video might help you to see why your advice may not be of any help to Mega game players.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8SkCh-n4rw 

                      --Jimmy4164


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                        SoCalNative,

                        As you pointed out, it took about 16 years for the 1636 drawings you've studied to be made. Since, at 2 per week, it will take at least about 1.7 MILLION years before all of the possible combinations of this Mega game are drawn, I'm surprised that you're surprised that you didn't find the repeats you looked for. A good exercise for you would be to calculate how often these 4+ and 5+ combos might be expected to recur on a random basis.

                        When you said, "But if you're looking for number combos that have a more likely chance of winning, my best advice is to use the search on the USA Mega site and make sure you're picking combos that have never come up before.," you made it clear where you stand regarding the issue of the effects of past drawings on the future. This short video might help you to see why your advice may not be of any help to Mega game players.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8SkCh-n4rw 

                        --Jimmy4164

                        Thanks for the lesson in critical thinking Jim. And thanks also to the Australian government.


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                          Thanks for the lesson in critical thinking Jim. And thanks also to the Australian government.

                          Is that why casinos throw out a player that wins over and over?

                          Because the house saw a pattern that didn't exist?


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                            Make no mistake SoCalNative,,Jimmy is a thread crasher who hates the idea of winning through the use of intelligent thought. And boney is his student.


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                              Imagination is the reason why players purchase lottery tickets or play any games of chance. You're playing a game with a $89 million jackpot and Boney says you don't follow logic, but thinks it's logical to compare MM to an imaginary game with a $4 jackpot.

                              A Positive Energy Flow was created when you successfully predicted that your group of 28 numbers would match five numbers and the bonus number too. While the NEF people were telling you is was just dumb luck, I was checking to see if it was possible for you to get the same results by using 94% less combos.

                              It doesn't take a MIT doctorate to understand 91% of the MM million numbers won't be drawn and it's possible to eliminate another 55% of those useless numbers and still retain the five winning numbers. People with PEF will look at the possibilities and the NEF will give boring lectures about the odds.

                              I suppose the next boring lecture will be about "why PEF is an imaginary thing".

                              Lurking

                              Right stack, but using our imagination to find creative ways of predicting a winning set of numbers is not the same as "gamblers fallacy" as Jimmy would have people believe. And its certainly not the same as a coin flip.

                                 
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