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Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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Posted: June 18, 2013, 1:31 pm - IP Logged

Sorry what sales records are you talking about ? and how did you figure 18 to 19 top prizes should be claimed by now? I think the numbers are pretty accurate on the site ..There might be rare cases where slippage of 1 or 2 wins have occured but I honestly believe the numbers are accurate.

Redhot7 is correct. The way you tell is by looking at the percentages, not just the raw numbers.

I add a column to their published remaining prizes numbers to see the percentages, like below:

$1,000,000 Fortune$10 
Prizes Odds 1 in

 Total # of

Winners

Prizes Claimed

Prizes Available

Percent

Remain

$1,000,000 1,200,00025111456.00%
$20,000 600,00050371326.00%
$10,000 600,00050351530.00%
$5,000 300,000100732727.00%
$1,000 2,85710,5007,5912,90927.70%
$500 1,26323,75018,2815,46923.03%
$100 82365,000280,03284,96823.28%
$50 100300,000230,44769,55323.18%
$30 100300,000229,46270,53823.51%
$20 112,700,0002,068,599631,40123.39%
$15 251,200,000907,922292,07824.34%
$10 132,400,0001,825,667574,33323.93%
Ticket171,800,0001,342,254457,74625.43%
_3.2979,099,47575.94%24.06%_

You can see the rest of the game is sold through at about 24% remaining, which is pretty good for this game progress. BUT, the top prize is still 56% remaining. If the top prize was 76% sold as the rest of the game is, about 19 should have been claimed by now.

There is something seriously wrong with this game. Normally Scratchers games do not fall this far behind. Where are the extra 8 top prizes? They may be lost/stolen or maybe the top prizes were obscured or misprinted and thrown away. Or they are just way late in reporting claims, or some fraud is going on. We don't know. All I can say is that something is rotten with this game. So I don't play it much.

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    Posted: June 18, 2013, 3:50 pm - IP Logged

    thank you for your insights again Jon D ...

    i personally not like scratching these ...

    now more reason to avoid them ...

    although $1mil would be sweet *^^*

     

    how are ppl faring with the $500k $5 scratchers?

    I have heard couple of you guys talk about $75 instant wins on the 20x but not much on the $500k ...

    $20 - 5 Million Jackpot $100 (#23) $50 (#29)
    $10 - Cali Gold $500 (#45) // Lucky for Life $50 // Diamond Million $50 (#18) // 20X Crosswords $100 (#32,#24,#14) $75 (#13)
    $05 - Lucky for Life $40 // Fortune 55 $50 // WinItAll $500 // MegaXWord $100
    $03 - 10x The Money $100 (#63) $50 (#58) || $02 - Season's Gold $100

      redhot7's avatar - SetforLifeLogo
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      Posted: June 18, 2013, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

      Sorry what sales records are you talking about ? and how did you figure 18 to 19 top prizes should be claimed by now? I think the numbers are pretty accurate on the site ..There might be rare cases where slippage of 1 or 2 wins have occured but I honestly believe the numbers are accurate.

      My calculation is somewhat different than Jon D but the result is about the same.

      Prizes               Odds 1 in         Actual           Statistical
                                                         Prizes           Prizes
                                                         Claimed        Claimed

      $1,000,000      1,200,000                 11                 19
           $20,000         600,000                 37                 38
           $10,000         600,000                 35                 38
             $5,000         300,000                 73                 76
             $1,000             2,857            7,591            7,982
                $500             1,263          18,281          18,056
                $100                  82        280,032        278,102
                  $50                100        230,447        228,044
                  $30                100        229,462        228,044
                  $20                  11     2,068,599     2,073,123
                  $15                  25        907,922        912,174
                  $10                  13     1,825,667     1,754,181
               Ticket                  17     1,342,254     1,341,433
                                    Total:       6,910,411     

      Overall Odds 1 in 3.30         

      The first 3 columns are taken directly from CA Lottery website. The statistical prizes claimed at the fourth column is calculated by multiplying the total actual prizes claimed, 6,910,411 , multiplies it by overall odds of 1 in 3.30 and then divide it by actual odd for each prize.

      For example: to calculate the actual prizes claimed for 1 million dollars prize, we have (6,910,411 *3.30)/1,200,000

      Note that the differences between statistical and actual prizes claimed are very close except the 1 million dollar top prize.

      Something is wrong with this game.

        Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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        Posted: June 18, 2013, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

        My calculation is somewhat different than Jon D but the result is about the same.

        Prizes               Odds 1 in         Actual           Statistical
                                                           Prizes           Prizes
                                                           Claimed        Claimed

        $1,000,000      1,200,000                 11                 19
             $20,000         600,000                 37                 38
             $10,000         600,000                 35                 38
               $5,000         300,000                 73                 76
               $1,000             2,857            7,591            7,982
                  $500             1,263          18,281          18,056
                  $100                  82        280,032        278,102
                    $50                100        230,447        228,044
                    $30                100        229,462        228,044
                    $20                  11     2,068,599     2,073,123
                    $15                  25        907,922        912,174
                    $10                  13     1,825,667     1,754,181
                 Ticket                  17     1,342,254     1,341,433
                                      Total:       6,910,411     

        Overall Odds 1 in 3.30         

        The first 3 columns are taken directly from CA Lottery website. The statistical prizes claimed at the fourth column is calculated by multiplying the total actual prizes claimed, 6,910,411 , multiplies it by overall odds of 1 in 3.30 and then divide it by actual odd for each prize.

        For example: to calculate the actual prizes claimed for 1 million dollars prize, we have (6,910,411 *3.30)/1,200,000

        Note that the differences between statistical and actual prizes claimed are very close except the 1 million dollar top prize.

        Something is wrong with this game.

        One thing I'd caution you on is relying on total claimed as your base of calculation. Scratch game prizes many times do not get claimed evenly at different prize tiers. Some games like $1,000,000 Fortune are fairly even, but some others are not. Case in point, $2 Triple Play:

        Triple Play (777)$2
        PrizesOdds 1 inTotal # of WinnersPrizes ClaimedPrizes AvailablePercent Remain
        $20,000600,0003026413.33%
        $1,000120,000150807046.67%
        $20040,0004503866414.22%
        $1008,5712,1001,9002009.52%
        $5056931,65028,6532,9979.47%
        $20100180,000161,80318,19710.11%
        $1583216,000194,26021,74010.06%
        $1038468,000419,12148,87910.44%
        $533540,000475,67864,32211.91%
        $3171,080,000946,667133,33312.35%
        Ticket101,800,0001,259,825540,17530.01%
        _4.1684,318,38080.78%19.22%_

        By the totals you'd think the game is sold thru at about 80%, but this is not correct. The *true* percentage by my calculation is closer to 90% sold. The total is skewed by the large number of throwaways on the Ticket value prizes, which is causing the 30% remaining *false* percentage at that tier. They aren't really out there, they are thrown away in the trash.

        By your formula, you would say the statistical top prizes claimed should be 24,(2 prizes *cold*) But it should be 27,(1 prize *hot*) 90% of 30 top prizes. That's large difference, 3 top prizes worth! Other games have uneven prize claimed tiers as well, which is largely due to game design, and confusing rules and symbols.

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          Posted: June 19, 2013, 1:05 pm - IP Logged

          First 20X top prize has been claimed.

            Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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            Posted: June 20, 2013, 10:50 am - IP Logged

            First 20X top prize has been claimed.

            And the 2nd top prize claimed today. 20x Crossword is now "on schedule" at 90% sold for the game and top prizes. I think I'll play other games for a while.

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              Posted: June 20, 2013, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

              And the 2nd top prize claimed today. 20x Crossword is now "on schedule" at 90% sold for the game and top prizes. I think I'll play other games for a while.

              Jon

              what game do you think you will try now ? I am driving to Big Bear this weekend and on the way want to try out at some gas stations...you know ..just those random places..

                Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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                Posted: June 21, 2013, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

                Jon

                what game do you think you will try now ? I am driving to Big Bear this weekend and on the way want to try out at some gas stations...you know ..just those random places..

                Probably more $500K Riches or Fortune 55.

                But if you're going out into the remote wilderness areas, maybe you might find some of those lost $1M Fortune winners in some tiny store hidden away out there.

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                  Posted: June 22, 2013, 1:38 am - IP Logged

                  Finally found a Fortune 55 with a decent "Win-All". $20 spots for a total of $200. Ticket # 38.

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                    Posted: June 22, 2013, 3:01 am - IP Logged

                    sexy !!!

                    i have no luck with the 500k $5 scratchers !!!

                    bought over 10 today nothing !!!! absolutely nothing !!!

                    fortune 55's have been good to me ... but not as good as a $200 winner ...

                    i think i am done with the 500k until it nears the end ...

                    my local store got a new batch of monopoly so i played it ... bad results = nothing !!!

                    down about $100 in the past two days T.T

                     

                    45-52 $500k

                    47-53 $500k

                    25-26 $500k

                    41-45 $500k

                    6,13,15 F55

                    50-52 F55

                    These are all my losers ...

                    $20 - 5 Million Jackpot $100 (#23) $50 (#29)
                    $10 - Cali Gold $500 (#45) // Lucky for Life $50 // Diamond Million $50 (#18) // 20X Crosswords $100 (#32,#24,#14) $75 (#13)
                    $05 - Lucky for Life $40 // Fortune 55 $50 // WinItAll $500 // MegaXWord $100
                    $03 - 10x The Money $100 (#63) $50 (#58) || $02 - Season's Gold $100

                      Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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                      Posted: June 22, 2013, 10:08 am - IP Logged

                      Finally found a Fortune 55 with a decent "Win-All". $20 spots for a total of $200. Ticket # 38.

                      Nice one! Congrats on your $200 Fortune 55 win!

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                        Posted: June 22, 2013, 10:19 am - IP Logged

                        Yea im in cali and i can tell you i have 279 in the replay draw for the 250 million cash extravaganza the 10$ ticket. Never won more than 100$ but im always gonna play

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                          Posted: June 22, 2013, 10:39 am - IP Logged

                          Yea im in cali and i can tell you i have 279 in the replay draw for the 250 million cash extravaganza the 10$ ticket. Never won more than 100$ but im always gonna play

                          Welcome to the forum and the Scratchers thread!

                          Since you mention $10 250M Cash Spectacular, I can't believe that the last top prize was claimed over a month ago and they are still selling the game! They should pull it from shelves with no top prizes remaining, that's unethical.

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                            Posted: June 22, 2013, 11:34 am - IP Logged

                            Nice one! Congrats on your $200 Fortune 55 win!

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                            Thanks. Trying to post a pic. Hope it works.

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                              Posted: June 22, 2013, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

                              @catscratch must have been a wonderful feeling

                              congrats again

                              $20 - 5 Million Jackpot $100 (#23) $50 (#29)
                              $10 - Cali Gold $500 (#45) // Lucky for Life $50 // Diamond Million $50 (#18) // 20X Crosswords $100 (#32,#24,#14) $75 (#13)
                              $05 - Lucky for Life $40 // Fortune 55 $50 // WinItAll $500 // MegaXWord $100
                              $03 - 10x The Money $100 (#63) $50 (#58) || $02 - Season's Gold $100

                                 
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