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Wheeling is so 1920!!

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Posted: March 24, 2013, 5:06 pm - IP Logged

Just my opinion.......who still use wheels for their numbers ?Drum . I used Bluskov's wheels but now I dont wheel anymore -chances to get a 5/5 increased 10 fold Big Smile

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    Posted: March 24, 2013, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

    Are the year "1920" and "wheeling" connected? 

    I don't wheel numbers because I usually play only 10-20 lines to cover 70% of the possible numbers and there aren't any wheels with a decent guarantee that do that.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: March 24, 2013, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

      Ya RJoh, Einstein first experimented with lottery wheeling back then right after he came out with his theory of relativity.

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        I simulated a 2 if 6 with 35 numbers for 6+r/45 before a drawing and had 3 in a line. Odds are small, payouts are smaller.

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          Posted: March 26, 2013, 11:42 pm - IP Logged

          Are the year "1920" and "wheeling" connected? 

          I don't wheel numbers because I usually play only 10-20 lines to cover 70% of the possible numbers and there aren't any wheels with a decent guarantee that do that.

          I Agree! if you're comparing spending $20 on an abbreviated 3 if 5 wheel that guarantees winning 6 bucks by matching 5 of the numbers. The key to using any group of numbers less than all is to match five numbers, but getting a smaller prize guarantee can eliminate the one line that matches all five numbers.

          But by playing less than all the numbers, you're still wheeling some of the numbers and only using the combos matching your perimeters as your guarantee. The odds of matching all five numbers on any 10 or 20 lines is the same whether it's QPs, an abbreviated wheel, or using filters. Having a better chance by using filters depends on the odds against all your filters passing.

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            Posted: March 27, 2013, 5:48 pm - IP Logged

            I Agree! if you're comparing spending $20 on an abbreviated 3 if 5 wheel that guarantees winning 6 bucks by matching 5 of the numbers. The key to using any group of numbers less than all is to match five numbers, but getting a smaller prize guarantee can eliminate the one line that matches all five numbers.

            But by playing less than all the numbers, you're still wheeling some of the numbers and only using the combos matching your perimeters as your guarantee. The odds of matching all five numbers on any 10 or 20 lines is the same whether it's QPs, an abbreviated wheel, or using filters. Having a better chance by using filters depends on the odds against all your filters passing.

            Full wheel?


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              Posted: March 27, 2013, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

              Just my opinion.......who still use wheels for their numbers ?Drum . I used Bluskov's wheels but now I dont wheel anymore -chances to get a 5/5 increased 10 fold Big Smile

              When you say wheel are so 1920's, do you mean they are so Rockefeller?

              I was designing a wheeling algorithm based on some quantum mechanical theory.

              It took me about 36 hours to perfect.

              Here it is for all to share.

                 P1-P2-A-B-C

                 P1-P2-D-E-F

                 P1-P2 G-H-I

              It is a two power number wheel, (P1 and P2)  in three lines (11 numbers) with a 3 if 3 guarentee.

              Please dont try to sell it.  Its "proprietary"

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                Posted: March 28, 2013, 12:43 am - IP Logged

                Full wheel?

                By definition the total amount of possibilities are a full wheel so logically every combination is part of a wheel.

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                  Posted: March 28, 2013, 9:27 am - IP Logged

                  When you say wheel are so 1920's, do you mean they are so Rockefeller?

                  I was designing a wheeling algorithm based on some quantum mechanical theory.

                  It took me about 36 hours to perfect.

                  Here it is for all to share.

                     P1-P2-A-B-C

                     P1-P2-D-E-F

                     P1-P2 G-H-I

                  It is a two power number wheel, (P1 and P2)  in three lines (11 numbers) with a 3 if 3 guarentee.

                  Please dont try to sell it.  Its "proprietary"

                  Hi,LottoBonner, thanks for sharing your info..

                  Is that wheel for pick3? Can you please give an example how it works. I am not really know wheels that much, but when I see or hear the words: "quantum mechanical theory"Hyper It is get my attention super fast..

                  Thanks,

                  tvpventures..Big Smile

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                    Posted: March 28, 2013, 3:06 pm - IP Logged

                    Are the year "1920" and "wheeling" connected? 

                    I don't wheel numbers because I usually play only 10-20 lines to cover 70% of the possible numbers and there aren't any wheels with a decent guarantee that do that.

                    Agree with you......if you used decent wheels then different story. But Rjoh since I stpped wheeling I won more.

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                      Posted: March 28, 2013, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

                      Full wheel?

                      Yes if a budget is not a problem then this is an option.................but in 1920!!!!! lolBig Grin

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                        Posted: March 28, 2013, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

                        When you say wheel are so 1920's, do you mean they are so Rockefeller?

                        I was designing a wheeling algorithm based on some quantum mechanical theory.

                        It took me about 36 hours to perfect.

                        Here it is for all to share.

                           P1-P2-A-B-C

                           P1-P2-D-E-F

                           P1-P2 G-H-I

                        It is a two power number wheel, (P1 and P2)  in three lines (11 numbers) with a 3 if 3 guarentee.

                        Please dont try to sell it.  Its "proprietary"

                        Lottoboner look there is a few excellent wheels -I cannot shoot them down -but scientifcally you should be able to narow down the winning numbers if the right methods are used. Most times huge wheels is not so nice on the pocket. Why play 100 lines if you can win with 5 lines ?


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                          Posted: March 29, 2013, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

                          Hi,LottoBonner, thanks for sharing your info..

                          Is that wheel for pick3? Can you please give an example how it works. I am not really know wheels that much, but when I see or hear the words: "quantum mechanical theory"Hyper It is get my attention super fast..

                          Thanks,

                          tvpventures..Big Smile

                          I was only kidding when i said "quantum mechanical theory".

                          However, from what I remember off the top of my head about locating a subatomic particle,

                          one would try to use as many variables as possible to maximize the correct potentiality wave of distribution.

                          So for instance, A) charge b) spin c) orientation d) mass  etc, to be able "to get a better picture"

                          So the same would apply for the numbers.  The more variables the "better the picture"

                          I,.  a) skip b) spacing c) frequency d) odd/eve

                          BTW that wheel is for pick five.  You just have to get the two power number correct and one of the other 9 numbers to guarentee a win in three lines.

                          A full three power number wheel would be the most logical for a "Rockefeller"

                          In Gails Wheel five to win she calls them Jackpot Buster Wheels.   If you are good at picking and have suitable funds these would be best.  They might bust your wallet for a couple of draws though until you have a lucky windfall.  The real question is how many draws can you endure?

                          And if you cant endure what is your excuse?


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                            Posted: March 29, 2013, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

                            Lottoboner look there is a few excellent wheels -I cannot shoot them down -but scientifcally you should be able to narow down the winning numbers if the right methods are used. Most times huge wheels is not so nice on the pocket. Why play 100 lines if you can win with 5 lines ?

                            I use basically a grid to make my wheels.  I focus on mainly two repeats, two 1 day skips.  (If I can endure the losses when the trend is cooling)

                            However two 5 day skip, two 7 day skip two 13 day skips come at their own regular intervals.

                            But according to the maxim that which is most likely occurs most often, well then its 0 day and 1 day skip ( however these can go cold)

                            I would say large wheels are not nice on the pocket unless you have a million dollars and are just trying to win another million,

                            whereby a 3 or 4 power number pick 6 full wheel would be the way to go.

                            Without checking I risk to say, these wheels would cost up to approximately 500 dollars american to say win one million pre-tax.

                            I might post an example of my grid with parameters later.

                            If one can reduce their wheel pool of numbers to say 9 numbers and be correct 5/9 then those wheels will definatley pay.

                            The truth is that if you have the money to burn, then 100 lines is not a big loss over 5 lines.

                            IMHO, once you start playing 100 lines over say 10 lines, you are more guessing franticly than playing with pinpoint accuracy.

                            Good Luck!

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                              Posted: March 31, 2013, 6:16 am - IP Logged

                              I believe that your jpb wheels don't win anything with the wrong numbers.