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# Programmer Who Does It For Pick 4

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This was a good question ,but im so busy Ill get back with you soon with what i need... thanks for your time

Keep smiling  keep  knowing you can't always count on me forsure that's what friends are for.....

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Wanted to ask you if you could create a program that calculates skips for each of the Pick 4 sets.

I uploaded 2 Text files.  Text file 1 is the list of all the Pick 4 Permutations going across.  See box.com link below

Inside the folder are 2 Excel files.  The P3StateDraws.xlsm and Pick4Hits.xlsm which is unfinished.

The 2nd text file is a draw history of all the Pick 4 draws in the order they were drawn for every state including Canadian Pick 4 and Puerto Rico.  There are over 50,000 draws.

In the screen shot below is a short list of the Pick 4 Permutations starting with the Quads in cell D2 through D11, then the Trips in cell D12 etc.  all the way down to the 24-Ways.

In cell AC2 is the current skip for the Quad 000.  Using the "All States" draw history of 51,000 past draws.  The skips for the permutation 0001 0010 0100 and 1000 starting in cell AC12 is skip 3453 for 0001, 387 for 0010, 4053 for 0100, and 45,469 for 1000.

Once I have all the skips I want to take the minimum skip for that permutation.  In this example, 0001,0010,0100,1000.  Skips 3453,387,4053,45469 which the minimum skip for the 4 sets is 387.

If this is too much of an undertaking I totally understand.

Calculating this in Excel is possible but takes to darn long.

Thanks,

Steve

https://app.box.com/s/tdj75u50s3qjtc8k0naj

The requested test is now available at LottoMark com under "Extras / Personal analyser" tab.

Jut paste your data on the left, select one of the radio buttons: Singles,  Doubles, TwoDoubles, Triples, Quads, wait a bit if you have thousands of combinations and you'll see your analysis on the right side very soon.

It tests 55,000 combos in 40 sec. Singles (5040 permutations).

If retesting too many combos you'd better click on the navigation tab again.

This is a first version. It needs some monitoring and code adjustments.

Good luck!

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does anyone have a pick 4 wheeling tool software they can inbox me? im trying to find one which o could put lets say 5000 straights and it tells me the other 5000 straights that are not in the one i imputed.

thanks.

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does anyone have a pick 4 wheeling tool software they can inbox me? im trying to find one which o could put lets say 5000 straights and it tells me the other 5000 straights that are not in the one i imputed.

thanks.

Pick4gen at LottoMark com has this feature built in.

Just follow steps from the picture and instructions from the program.This way program will extract your combinations from the the original full P4 wheel (10,000 combos) and show the rest in the red panel.

If you want to reduce either blue or red combos, just click Add blue or Add red set to green panel, generate or paste your combos to yellow panel and Filter it again.

Opposite way would be pasting your combos into green panel then generating a wheel to find any wheel combos in yours and show them in the blue panel (and showing the rest in the red panel).

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mrprogrammer I don't understand.  programmer=magician correct?

people can give you some vague information or random thought and you turn it into a finished program with a simple wave of your magic wand.

you don't need to bother yourself with worrisome details, like what form is the raw data in, where is it located, what do you want to see as a output,  what processing needs to be done to arrive at an output.

lots of luck to you, and infinite patience.

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mrprogrammer I don't understand.  programmer=magician correct?

people can give you some vague information or random thought and you turn it into a finished program with a simple wave of your magic wand.

you don't need to bother yourself with worrisome details, like what form is the raw data in, where is it located, what do you want to see as a output,  what processing needs to be done to arrive at an output.

lots of luck to you, and infinite patience.

BEWARE of the programmer (magician) using a form of misdirection in an attempt to divert attention away from his true intent in that you must reveal to him exactly what you're doing (your workout) so that he can HELP ??  you in programming the input.......VERY CLEVER !

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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BEWARE of the programmer (magician) using a form of misdirection in an attempt to divert attention away from his true intent in that you must reveal to him exactly what you're doing (your workout) so that he can HELP ??  you in programming the input.......VERY CLEVER !

What one should be aware of?

Of giving a little bit to get a lot? You'd better die than tell the doctor anything?

A good programmer could save you hours and days of manual or excel work.

This nice intention should be precious and encouraged instead of being ticketed as possible fraud.

He has to work hard and spend a lot of time to make someone's life easier.

Be aware that a good lotto programmer the most likely has your problem already solved or built in his programs.

Programmer gets many ideas on the go when coding. It's very likely that your idea was one he has already worked on.

Don't give anything away as others may benefit from it, but take everything good guys are giving for free?

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Some folks by nature  are distrustful, but a sound skepticism  is a good thing. A good programmer does not need a data(he has it already), all he needs is very well thought  CONCEPT. When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts. The programmer knows the matrix of the game, say P3, P4( 0,1.....9), X/N   for other games, all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model. There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

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What one should be aware of?

Of giving a little bit to get a lot? You'd better die than tell the doctor anything?

A good programmer could save you hours and days of manual or excel work.

This nice intention should be precious and encouraged instead of being ticketed as possible fraud.

He has to work hard and spend a lot of time to make someone's life easier.

Be aware that a good lotto programmer the most likely has your problem already solved or built in his programs.

Programmer gets many ideas on the go when coding. It's very likely that your idea was one he has already worked on.

Don't give anything away as others may benefit from it, but take everything good guys are giving for free?

I believe in. You get what you pay for.

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Some folks by nature  are distrustful, but a sound skepticism  is a good thing. A good programmer does not need a data(he has it already), all he needs is very well thought  CONCEPT. When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts. The programmer knows the matrix of the game, say P3, P4( 0,1.....9), X/N   for other games, all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model. There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

Thank you for your input, adobea78.......sound skepticism is in fact a good thing especially since the avenue of association in this particular case with the programmer ?? is the World Wide Web. Who's to say who you are actually sending your predictive tool (algorithm) to out there in cyberspace??

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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Thank you for your input, adobea78.......sound skepticism is in fact a good thing especially since the avenue of association in this particular case with the programmer ?? is the World Wide Web. Who's to say who you are actually sending your predictive tool (algorithm) to out there in cyberspace??

Couple of months ago, I found out someone peddling my file on the net for \$100, he had my data, not my ideal! Folks who bought  the file kept emailing me for clarification, I had to tell them to ask for reimbursement since it was free on LP-  skepticism? yes,   cynical? No !

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Couple of months ago, I found out someone peddling my file on the net for \$100, he had my data, not my ideal! Folks who bought  the file kept emailing me for clarification, I had to tell them to ask for reimbursement since it was free on LP-  skepticism? yes,   cynical? No !

Now that you've refreshed my memory I remember reading something about that. Wasn't yours the case where they didn't even bother to change the type or the punctuation? Just removed your name and inserted theirs as if all the work actually belonged to them.

They're out there laying in wait.......so yes, BEWARE !

Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca\$hhomie

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Now that you've refreshed my memory I remember reading something about that. Wasn't yours the case where they didn't even bother to change the type or the punctuation? Just removed your name and inserted theirs as if all the work actually belonged to them.

They're out there laying in wait.......so yes, BEWARE !

Yes, he forgot to change the file name ' adobea charts', brazenly bold and stupid on his part! I think the system forum should be changed to concept forum, this will prevent ' vultures' hovering around. Has it occurred to you why the Math forum has little responses on any given topic?

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Some folks by nature  are distrustful, but a sound skepticism  is a good thing. A good programmer does not need a data(he has it already), all he needs is very well thought  CONCEPT. When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts. The programmer knows the matrix of the game, say P3, P4( 0,1.....9), X/N   for other games, all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model. There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts.

adobea78  I don't understand most of your terms and abbreviations and I see most of others don't.

Your education may be above ours, but that doesn't have a significant value here if we don't understand you.

It would be better if you use publicly understandable terms if you really want others understand what you're talking about.

all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model

"all he has to do" is do a complete work and invent a system or tools where you can test your concept and do your analysis.

If the programmer work is a minor part of complete work and a "concept inventor" is so smart why he is not smart to learn programming

and do everything by himself?

There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

There is a difference, a programmer makes a car and analyst drives that car.

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Me too. I've been following for a while non member until today….. Welcome!

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