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Posted: December 3, 2014, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts.

adobea78  I don't understand most of your terms and abbreviations and I see most of others don't.

Your education may be above ours, but that doesn't have a significant value here if we don't understand you.

It would be better if you use publicly understandable terms if you really want others understand what you're talking about.

 

all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model

"all he has to do" is do a complete work and invent a system or tools where you can test your concept and do your analysis.

If the programmer work is a minor part of complete work and a "concept inventor" is so smart why he is not smart to learn programming

and do everything by himself?

 

There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

There is a difference, a programmer makes a car and analyst drives that car.

mmx1, before you open up and share your ideals with someone, you have to build a relation, then trust, the web is suitable for sharing GENERAL info. I  don't mind paying a programmer $1000 to translate my ideal into usable tool  if my ideal is protected and safe with him. 

Now to the understandable terms, I don't think the concept of ' linear regression or multivariate' is new to any software programmer, for example, the digits of P3 games starts with a known variable say x and ends with unknown variable y in a random setting, so asking  a programmer to write algorithm or code for  x to y is not far-fetched, sure , he may need information from me in building/writing the code(like the choice of parameters, triggers, ect), not  numerical data(P3 has the data as  0123456789).

NB> Lottery software or programmes are mostly organizing tools for  data not predictive methods.

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    When I tell a programmer to build a predictive method based on say ' linear regression, confidence interval or univariate to multivariate' concepts, he should be able to do it if he understands those concepts.

    adobea78  I don't understand most of your terms and abbreviations and I see most of others don't.

    Your education may be above ours, but that doesn't have a significant value here if we don't understand you.

    It would be better if you use publicly understandable terms if you really want others understand what you're talking about.

     

    all he has to do, is to convert or translate the concepts into predictive model

    "all he has to do" is do a complete work and invent a system or tools where you can test your concept and do your analysis.

    If the programmer work is a minor part of complete work and a "concept inventor" is so smart why he is not smart to learn programming

    and do everything by himself?

     

    There is a difference between data analyst and a programmer, a programmer works with a concept, while the analyst interprets a data.

    There is a difference, a programmer makes a car and analyst drives that car.

    Yes, mmx, that's "all he has to do."

    Sounds simple to anyone who has never searched 1.2 megs of code trying to find that one little bug. Or stretched their brain turning specific ideas into code.

    And sometimes people present incomplete ideas or don't know exactly what they want. The programmer has to fill in the blanks.

    Sometimes the programmer can't get there from here and has to derive other data. Most often it's necessary to have a baseline to compare new data too.

    Sometimes the initial output is short of the overall idea and you have to go another step and another and another.

    Then when the program is finished you're expected to assist in learning it, support it, and make additional changes.

    "Hello World" is one thing, but a program that brings a specific ideas to life, well, that's quite another.

    However, I do agree before you hand over an idea to anyone who is looking for ideas to program you should know a bit about that person, what he has done, if he is capable of producing what you need, etc., and know who is going to own the program once it is finished.

     

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      mmx1, before you open up and share your ideals with someone, you have to build a relation, then trust, the web is suitable for sharing GENERAL info. I  don't mind paying a programmer $1000 to translate my ideal into usable tool  if my ideal is protected and safe with him. 

      Now to the understandable terms, I don't think the concept of ' linear regression or multivariate' is new to any software programmer, for example, the digits of P3 games starts with a known variable say x and ends with unknown variable y in a random setting, so asking  a programmer to write algorithm or code for  x to y is not far-fetched, sure , he may need information from me in building/writing the code(like the choice of parameters, triggers, ect), not  numerical data(P3 has the data as  0123456789).

      NB> Lottery software or programmes are mostly organizing tools for  data not predictive methods.

      Since you are releasing proprietary information to the programmer I don't think a signed affidavit of some form would be considered out of order. You've got to protect your invention !

      Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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        Very good thoughts everyone, I am enjoying reading them.  A decent programmer would not object to a confidentiality agreement in doing work.  I would say if you are that confident that the information / idea that you have is that good, then by all means ask a programmer to sign a confidentiality agreement.  If they refuse, don't use them.  But sometimes when the idea is just an early potential idea, then what?  Things are not always clear on what to do, but trust is always important, I agree.  A big topic in the news lately also, trust.

        As for some of the other comments, yes "all he has to do" is not always a simple thing for sure.  And yes, concepts and rules are what we need, not data, I agree.  Data is the last thing I need.  Cool

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          Very good thoughts everyone, I am enjoying reading them.  A decent programmer would not object to a confidentiality agreement in doing work.  I would say if you are that confident that the information / idea that you have is that good, then by all means ask a programmer to sign a confidentiality agreement.  If they refuse, don't use them.  But sometimes when the idea is just an early potential idea, then what?  Things are not always clear on what to do, but trust is always important, I agree.  A big topic in the news lately also, trust.

          As for some of the other comments, yes "all he has to do" is not always a simple thing for sure.  And yes, concepts and rules are what we need, not data, I agree.  Data is the last thing I need.  Cool

          I hope you understand that I was not picking on you or any other programmer for that matter, but if the developer of a "winning system" has to reveal the methodology of a lifetime of dedicated trial and error something has to be put in place to protect it.

          There's an ad currently running here on the Lottery Post featuring the likeness of Albert Einstein. The ad reads something like this: "PATENT YOUR INVENTION *before somebody else does." 

          No P.T. Barnum funny business here !

          Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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            Very good thoughts everyone, I am enjoying reading them.  A decent programmer would not object to a confidentiality agreement in doing work.  I would say if you are that confident that the information / idea that you have is that good, then by all means ask a programmer to sign a confidentiality agreement.  If they refuse, don't use them.  But sometimes when the idea is just an early potential idea, then what?  Things are not always clear on what to do, but trust is always important, I agree.  A big topic in the news lately also, trust.

            As for some of the other comments, yes "all he has to do" is not always a simple thing for sure.  And yes, concepts and rules are what we need, not data, I agree.  Data is the last thing I need.  Cool

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              I got it, proceed.

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                I mean I got your first PM, asking me to reply via PM to confirm I can get your PM so you can post your question in the forum.  I did not receive any further PM that that one.  No need for me to reply via PM to confirm I can see forum posts, I can.  So I meant proceed to post your question in the forum as you said you wanted to do, I will check your last posts to find it.  I will check for the next few days, if you post it later than that, just let me know.  Thanks.

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                  G'd Day MrProgrammer

                  First non trick question, with all your professional programming experience + Keno expertise: Can there be a predictive computation, methodology, etc to "virtually" capture a single number using a data base of say 1000 keno PP games (not each & every time, mind you, but above the odds at approx 90%)

                  Thanks in advance......

                  Good Weekend Wishes

                  Eddessa_Knight Sun Smiley

                   

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                  Not to be rude, but Is there a way to communicate with you off LP or on PM ???

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                    G'd Day MrProgrammer

                    First non trick question, with all your professional programming experience + Keno expertise: Can there be a predictive computation, methodology, etc to "virtually" capture a single number using a data base of say 1000 keno PP games (not each & every time, mind you, but above the odds at approx 90%)

                    Thanks in advance......

                    Good Weekend Wishes

                    Eddessa_Knight Sun Smiley

                     

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                    Not to be rude, but Is there a way to communicate with you off LP or on PM ???

                    Because I put the stuff on a picture uploaded to ImageShack we can't now see my original prediction, cause after so long ago Image Shack deleted my images, but we still have this:

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/201409/1442843

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/201409/1443206

                    I know that it is not exactly what you asked about.

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                      G'd Day MrProgrammer

                      First non trick question, with all your professional programming experience + Keno expertise: Can there be a predictive computation, methodology, etc to "virtually" capture a single number using a data base of say 1000 keno PP games (not each & every time, mind you, but above the odds at approx 90%)

                      Thanks in advance......

                      Good Weekend Wishes

                      Eddessa_Knight Sun Smiley

                       

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                      Not to be rude, but Is there a way to communicate with you off LP or on PM ???

                      I used to get 1 key digit often, but here I got:

                      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/203017/1459680

                      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/203017/1459678

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                        G'd Day MrProgrammer

                        First non trick question, with all your professional programming experience + Keno expertise: Can there be a predictive computation, methodology, etc to "virtually" capture a single number using a data base of say 1000 keno PP games (not each & every time, mind you, but above the odds at approx 90%)

                        Thanks in advance......

                        Good Weekend Wishes

                        Eddessa_Knight Sun Smiley

                         

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                        Not to be rude, but Is there a way to communicate with you off LP or on PM ???

                        No Eddessa.  Too many tricks.  Move on.

                        MrProgrammer  Cool

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                          Because I put the stuff on a picture uploaded to ImageShack we can't now see my original prediction, cause after so long ago Image Shack deleted my images, but we still have this:

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/201409/1442843

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/201409/1443206

                          I know that it is not exactly what you asked about.

                          MonEI, thank for your earnest & informative reponse with your links demonstrating past prediction cuccess

                          Do understand that there is no actual point of certainty owing to the Heisenberg Effect, etc

                          Werner Heisenberg was a German theoretical physicist was a quantim forerunner saying that an event did not exist unless witnessed & when observed the event becomes changed

                          But having said that it is possible to sttatistically  capture virtual points of certainty to 90% & be positive.

                          MonEI, do you have programming & computation skills???

                          Good Weekend Wishes
                          Eddessa_Knight

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                            No Eddessa.  Too many tricks.  Move on.

                            Was interested in seeing you respond to this question.

                            After reading and considering, I hoped it wasn't a trick question; but given the circumstances and conditions, this endeavor is doomed to fail. Not that it is a trick question, only that the poster has a preconceived notion of probable, possible, and virtual degree of certainty.

                            As Einstein said, "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

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                              I'm a glad that you decided to join Lottery Post. What kind of software do you use to program in? I live in Texas, and the Pick 3 use to be easy to win, now that they added the two extra draws, it threw my set of numbers off. I use several Lottery Programs for the pick 3 there are two that I use more than the others and they are pretty good. If you could program something that can predict what numbers follow certain numbers, that would be AWESOME. At the end of every year, I make me a Pick 3 Lottery Book. I print out all the numbers that hit in 2013, 2012, 2011 and so on. I found that there is a pattern with certain numbers that follow each other in the Texas Pick 3 Lottery.