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Quote: Originally posted by Numberloco on Oct 28, 2015
Hey Allen,

I was using Amber's example of playing offshore which would give her $900 for a straight win. You are correct though. The normal payout from the state is $500.

So no Box Wins?
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Oct 28, 2015, 1:00 am

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 28, 2015
So no Box Wins?

My understanding is that Amber's goal is to play 6 ways straight to ensure the higher payout. For example:

123 - $1.00 straight

132 - $1.00 straight

312 - $1.00 straight

321 - $1.00 straight

213 - $1.00 straight

231 - $1.00 straight

Using the above example, you're guaranteed to get a straight hit if the numbers 123 fall in any order. However you would get nothing for the other 5 bets. If you wanted a box hit, it would cost an additional $1.00.
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Oct 28, 2015, 1:03 am

I am reworking this because I just realized the payouts are wrong. You either have to increase the bet or play the combo. then you only get half of the winnings. Looks like you lose $323,780 with my example. I am High, I'm going to Bed.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 28, 2015
Attached is pdf of Excel sheet calculating all of this.

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Please ignore this. It is wrong.
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Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 27, 2015
LMAO @ "do the math"!

There are ten 6-way boxes with 5 being the lowest digit; 567-568-569-578-579-589-678-679-689-789 and each of the ten 6-way boxes has six different 3 digit numbers for a total of 60. Statistically these ten 6-way boxes represent 8.3% of all 120 6-way boxes. Added to the 90 3-way boxes and the ten triples, there should be 396 6-way boxes with the lowest digit being 0,1,2,3, or 4 drawn in 600 drawings.

I have no idea what you're writing about. There were 26 combinations during the 600 draws that the lowest digit above 4. I even tallied them up for you month by month. 26 is 4.3% of 600 draws. Why are some of you having so much difficulty understanding this?

Nope, 600 minus 396 is 204 losses and not "188" and the 204 figure is plus or minus standard deviation. Can you show even one state 3 digit game that had a 600 drawing period where 27% were doubles, 72% singles, and 1% triples?

Where are you getting 396 from?

Can you show us all where we can legally wager 25 cents on a straight pick-3 number and get 900 to 1 odds without moving out of the U.S.?

No I can't because a place like that doesn't exist here. But there is a place offshore that pays 900. I'll just leave it at that.

Maybe the 27% is a little off by a 3 or 4% margin of error in either direction, and that's perfectly ok because I'll still make money, and lots of it. As for the other stats, they are FACT. If you and others don't agree with me, that's fine, But I won't continue debating. I know the numbers I've seen and re-checked many times.

Maybe I'll start a tracking of the money spent and won, with the losses right in the this thread and update the results on a daily basis so everyone can see for themselves. It's really very simple, but some of you want to throw things in that has nothing to do with the facts.

I'll start the make believe betting starting tomorrow for Florida.

"I have no idea what you're writing about. There were 26 combinations during the 600 draws that the lowest digit above 4. I even tallied them up for you month by month. 26 is 4.3% of 600 draws. Why are some of you having so much difficulty understanding this? "

Your system seems to be based on the 660 3 digit combos where the lowest digit is 0,1,2,3,or 4. Statistically one of those 660 combos should be drawn in 66% of of all the drawings or 396 times in 600 drawings. The same probability applies to the 60 combos where the lowest digit is 5, 6, or 7 that represents 6% of the total combos or one of those combos.

There were 49 times in the Florida midday drawing over the same period of time which is 13 more than probable 36 and added to the 26 in the evening drawing, By averaging both drawings together, one of those combos were drawn 75 times and three more than the probability of 72.

"Maybe the 27% is a little off by a 3 or 4% margin of error in either direction, and that's perfectly ok because I'll still make money, and lots of it."

The 27% is the 270 combos with two matching digits (doubles). Now add the 1% triples and the 6% where the lowest digit is 5 or higher. That's 34% leaving you with a probable 66%. Wagering 25 cents each on 660 straight combos for 600 drawings will cost $99,000. The probable 396 wins means collecting $88,650 and a net loss of over $10,000.

"But I won't continue debating."

I'm not debating, just pointing out the probabilities and the actual results. In the last 365 Florida evening drawings, 242 of them were a 3 digit number with the lowest number 4 or lower. That's 66.3% of the drawings because 29.6% were doubles and 1.6% were triples. The results of the Midday drawing are only 62% for the last year.
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Oct 28, 2015, 1:37 am

Quote: Originally posted by Numberloco on Oct 28, 2015
Hey Allen,

I was using Amber's example of playing offshore which would give her $900 for a straight win. You are correct though. The normal payout from the state is $500.

Amber used the Florida evening drawing and this system produced 242 winners in the last 365 drawings. $900 per win is $217,800, but the cost at $660 per drawing is $240,900 and a loss of $23,100. playing the other 340 combos is still a $13,400 loss.
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Oct 28, 2015, 2:04 am

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Oct 28, 2015
Amber used the Florida evening drawing and this system produced 242 winners in the last 365 drawings. $900 per win is $217,800, but the cost at $660 per drawing is $240,900 and a loss of $23,100. playing the other 340 combos is still a $13,400 loss.

We must be talking about different posts. I was referring to when Amber posting the following:

For some of you who are having a problem understanding this, I'll do just this month of October.

From the 4th of October till today the 27th, equals 48 draws.

48 draws X 900 =43,200, this is how much I would win in 48 draws in an ideal world, if there were no doubles triples and lowest digit number above 4. So below you will see the deductions. The first deduction is COST. Then the next deduction is the doubles that ruin my day, and lastly, it's the combinations with the lowest number above 4.
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Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 27, 2015
LMAO @ "do the math"!

There are ten 6-way boxes with 5 being the lowest digit; 567-568-569-578-579-589-678-679-689-789 and each of the ten 6-way boxes has six different 3 digit numbers for a total of 60. Statistically these ten 6-way boxes represent 8.3% of all 120 6-way boxes. Added to the 90 3-way boxes and the ten triples, there should be 396 6-way boxes with the lowest digit being 0,1,2,3, or 4 drawn in 600 drawings.

I have no idea what you're writing about. There were 26 combinations during the 600 draws that the lowest digit above 4. I even tallied them up for you month by month. 26 is 4.3% of 600 draws. Why are some of you having so much difficulty understanding this?

Nope, 600 minus 396 is 204 losses and not "188" and the 204 figure is plus or minus standard deviation. Can you show even one state 3 digit game that had a 600 drawing period where 27% were doubles, 72% singles, and 1% triples?

Where are you getting 396 from?

Can you show us all where we can legally wager 25 cents on a straight pick-3 number and get 900 to 1 odds without moving out of the U.S.?

No I can't because a place like that doesn't exist here. But there is a place offshore that pays 900. I'll just leave it at that.

Maybe the 27% is a little off by a 3 or 4% margin of error in either direction, and that's perfectly ok because I'll still make money, and lots of it. As for the other stats, they are FACT. If you and others don't agree with me, that's fine, But I won't continue debating. I know the numbers I've seen and re-checked many times.

Maybe I'll start a tracking of the money spent and won, with the losses right in the this thread and update the results on a daily basis so everyone can see for themselves. It's really very simple, but some of you want to throw things in that has nothing to do with the facts.

I'll start the make believe betting starting tomorrow for Florida.

amber123, that is the best way to show how the system is going by providing a simulation as if you were actually playing.

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Oct 28, 2015, 9:27 am

Quote: Originally posted by LAVERNE MALONEY on Oct 28, 2015
amber123, that is the best way to show how the system is going by providing a simulation as if you were actually playing.

I did make a mistake on the cost of the doubles. I listed originally as 17,820, when in fact it's actually 112,200 (includes triples). But the good news is that eventually, after about a year or so, the incremental increase of the bets from .25 to 10.00 per number, per draw will leave me with a nice profit every month. It will take patience and some time, but in the end it will be all worth it.

Here are my findings. Mid and eve combined, tally of doubles and triples.

Jan-16

Feb-17

Mar-25

Apr-12

May-16

Jun-22

Jul-17

Aug-17

Sept-17

Oct-11

Total-170 doubles and triples.

Now there is absolutely no speculation about the tally of numbers that are higher than 4, tally of the doubles and triples.

540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000)

-396,000-cost (660 X 600=396,000)

-112,200-lost in doubles and triples (170 X 660=112,200)

- 17,160-lost due to 26 numbers with the lowest digit above 4 (26 X 660=17,160)

= 14,640- net profit for the last 10 months

1,460 net profit a month.

Ok so I was way off, but this only means I'll have to eventually go to the max bet of 10 bucks per number which would cost 6,600 bucks per draw (660 X 10.00 bets), but the payoff would be 14,640 X 10=146,400 net profit in 10 months.

That would come out to 14,640 net profit every month since January.

Of course this will take a year or so to work up to, maybe more than a year, but 14 grand a month even after 3 years to work up to is very nice.
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Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 28, 2015
I did make a mistake on the cost of the doubles. I listed originally as 17,820, when in fact it's actually 112,200 (includes triples). But the good news is that eventually, after about a year or so, the incremental increase of the bets from .25 to 10.00 per number, per draw will leave me with a nice profit every month. It will take patience and some time, but in the end it will be all worth it.

Here are my findings. Mid and eve combined, tally of doubles and triples.

Jan-16

Feb-17

Mar-25

Apr-12

May-16

Jun-22

Jul-17

Aug-17

Sept-17

Oct-11

Total-170 doubles and triples.

Now there is absolutely no speculation about the tally of numbers that are higher than 4, tally of the doubles and triples.

540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000)

-396,000-cost (660 X 600=396,000)

-112,200-lost in doubles and triples (170 X 660=112,200)

- 17,160-lost due to 26 numbers with the lowest digit above 4 (26 X 660=17,160)

= 14,640- net profit for the last 10 months

1,460 net profit a month.

Ok so I was way off, but this only means I'll have to eventually go to the max bet of 10 bucks per number which would cost 6,600 bucks per draw (660 X 10.00 bets), but the payoff would be 14,640 X 10=146,400 net profit in 10 months.

That would come out to 14,640 net profit every month since January.

Of course this will take a year or so to work up to, maybe more than a year, but 14 grand a month even after 3 years to work up to is very nice.

Good luck.

Its time to move on.

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Oct 28, 2015, 11:26 am

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Oct 28, 2015
I did make a mistake on the cost of the doubles. I listed originally as 17,820, when in fact it's actually 112,200 (includes triples). But the good news is that eventually, after about a year or so, the incremental increase of the bets from .25 to 10.00 per number, per draw will leave me with a nice profit every month. It will take patience and some time, but in the end it will be all worth it.

Here are my findings. Mid and eve combined, tally of doubles and triples.

Jan-16

Feb-17

Mar-25

Apr-12

May-16

Jun-22

Jul-17

Aug-17

Sept-17

Oct-11

Total-170 doubles and triples.

Now there is absolutely no speculation about the tally of numbers that are higher than 4, tally of the doubles and triples.

540,000-won (900 X 600=540,000)

-396,000-cost (660 X 600=396,000)

-112,200-lost in doubles and triples (170 X 660=112,200)

- 17,160-lost due to 26 numbers with the lowest digit above 4 (26 X 660=17,160)

= 14,640- net profit for the last 10 months

1,460 net profit a month.

Ok so I was way off, but this only means I'll have to eventually go to the max bet of 10 bucks per number which would cost 6,600 bucks per draw (660 X 10.00 bets), but the payoff would be 14,640 X 10=146,400 net profit in 10 months.

That would come out to 14,640 net profit every month since January.

Of course this will take a year or so to work up to, maybe more than a year, but 14 grand a month even after 3 years to work up to is very nice.

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Oct 28, 2015, 11:36 am

Quote: Originally posted by Lildarryl on Oct 28, 2015
amber123 do your thing.... dont worry bout the haters

Thanks, they don't bother me.

Even If it takes 5 years to get to the max bet of 10.00 per number, per draw, I'll be the one laughing making 14 grand a month net profit.

This is my retirement plan.
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Oct 28, 2015, 11:37 am

After a rough night and a few now embarrassing posts, I took another look at this and I think it is fairly simple to analyze.

There are only two factors to look at, 1 the ratio of the potential win$ to the Cost per game and the win percentage for the 110.

So looking at the box only at $110.00 per game wins $160.00. 110/160=.6875 or 68.75% = breaking even.

So at 65.26% for the Florida 3 Combined over the last 1353 games is 3.5% less than break even.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Oct 28, 2015
After a rough night and a few now embarrassing posts, I took another look at this and I think it is fairly simple to analyze.

There are only two factors to look at, 1 the ratio of the potential win$ to the Cost per game and the win percentage for the 110.

So looking at the box only at $110.00 per game wins $160.00. 110/160=.6875 or 68.75% = breaking even.

So at 65.26% for the Florida 3 Combined over the last 1353 games is 3.5% less than break even.

So looking at the box only at $110.00 per game wins $160.00.

The actual pay is $150.00 for a box win.

Doing the math for the box version in Florida results in small profit every month since January till now.

90,000 won (150 X 600 draws)

-66,000 cost (110 X 600 draws)

-18,700 loss due to doubles and triples, 170 total (110 X 170= 18,700)

-2,860 loss due to lowest digit above 4, 26 total (110 X 26=2,860)

Net profit $2,440 for the whole 10 months.

Monthly profit of 244.00.. this is at 1 dollar bets.

After a few months I would eventually work my way up to 2 dollar bets, then 3.00 bets..etc...all the way to the max which would yield about 2,440 bucks a month in net profit.

I think I'll start out this way, then over the years I will switch to straight betting and the ultimate goal of 14 grand a month.
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Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Oct 27, 2015
This is based on your data try these for the next 3 weeks or more for Florida.

000 002 012 016 017 022 032 042 044 052 059 062 072 076 078 080 081 082 083 084 085 086 087 088 089 092 099 100 109 116 117 119 129 139 144 149 159 169 176 178 179 181 182 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 211 216 217 221 231 241 244 251 259 261 271 276 278 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 291 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 316 317 320 330 340 344 350 359 360 370 376 378 380 381 382 390 399 400 404 414 416 417 424 434 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 454 459 464 474 476 478 481 482 484 494 499 500 506 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 526 536 544 546 556 559 566 576 578 581 582 586 596 599 600 606 616 617 626 636 644 646 656 659 666 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 681 682 686 696 699 700 708 716 717 718 728 738 744 748 758 759 768 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 781 782 788 798 799 800 807 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 827 837 844 847 857 859 867 876 877 878 881 882 887 897 899 900 909 916 917 919 929 939 944 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 969 976 978 979 981 982 989 999

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