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Posted: January 31, 2016, 3:24 pm - IP Logged

In the long run if you are playing with lotto's money then you are ahead!

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    In the long run if you are playing with lotto's money then you are ahead!

            Did you mean as long as you win more than you lose you are ahead?

      Yes, that could work. Staying ahead.

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      Thanks DC. For sure progressive wagering has to be at the top of most popular list. Still, it would be nice to see which method using averages would get us  closest to a profit, or at least the most successful amount of wins  or merely hits    Perhaps the most hits even without a profit.

       Also, It is very strange how all of these State governments are the only institutions that allow they can cheat us with their obvious "Price Fixing" 

       One would think that competition would affect some sort of a little change. Yes, different payoffs or terms or at least something in different states by now. $$$ Hmmm....

       Funny, maybe it's just 50 coincidences in a row or something.

       

       Evidently these State Governments could let us play for half the cost and still pay us $$$ double the payoff odds and still make a profit!

       How much better?  At least something.

       Evidently these State Governments could let us play for half the cost and still pay us $$$ double the payoff odds and still make a profit!

      I assume you believe that because you can prove it or you're throwing out BS to see if any of it sticks.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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         Evidently these State Governments could let us play for half the cost and still pay us $$$ double the payoff odds and still make a profit!

        I assume you believe that because you can prove it or you're throwing out BS to see if any of it sticks.

        BS? What a polite way you have when asking for help or understanding.

        If you need help with a question RJOH, or next time you need to be taught anything, ask nicely.

        Proof ? Sure. How much do you need? Millions? You got it. 

         

        Where have you been RJOh? Are you serious?

        Evidently, you've been hanging around here and other forums for years. Yet, you picked up nothing about ? 

         

        Surprise ! Private Retail Outlets around the World and online have offered those exact terms and payouts up there while making millions for years. 

        Private Retail Companies can always beat any Bumbling Government, and for at least half the cost.

        Half the cost to play and nearly double the payouts and they still make huge profits. Not a "BS" theory but real working realities.

        Did any of that "BS"stick, or do you need more help filling in your blank spot ?  Hopefully, it's self-evident.

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          I think the odds are good as they are.

          I don't care to beat the house.

          Because you cant beat the house. Ever.

          I just want consistent wins.

          Consistent Wins  + Progressive Wagering =  Big Grin

           

          These numbers games require the same discipline required

          when investing in the stock market.

          Watch your resistance.

          Watch your support and place your stops lol

          Jumping from strategy to

          strategy is a sure fire way to LOSE!!

          HIm 

           

          what system/strategies do you use to increase your chance in winning for the NY numbers and win4?

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            BS? What a polite way you have when asking for help or understanding.

            If you need help with a question RJOH, or next time you need to be taught anything, ask nicely.

            Proof ? Sure. How much do you need? Millions? You got it. 

             

            Where have you been RJOh? Are you serious?

            Evidently, you've been hanging around here and other forums for years. Yet, you picked up nothing about ? 

             

            Surprise ! Private Retail Outlets around the World and online have offered those exact terms and payouts up there while making millions for years. 

            Private Retail Companies can always beat any Bumbling Government, and for at least half the cost.

            Half the cost to play and nearly double the payouts and they still make huge profits. Not a "BS" theory but real working realities.

            Did any of that "BS"stick, or do you need more help filling in your blank spot ?  Hopefully, it's self-evident.

            Proof ? Sure. How much do you need? Millions? You got it. 

            Where have you been RJOh? Are you serious?

            Evidently, you've been hanging around here and other forums for years. Yet, you picked up nothing about ? 

            Proof doesn't cost anything let alone millions. 

            Before they were outlawed in the US, I did notice that those online betting sites offered 40% larger prizes for their pick3/4 games.  The best thing they had going for them were tax evasion which is why they were outlawed. 

            I was stating an opinion not asking for help but thanks for the offer any way.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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               "Evidently these State Governments could let us play for half the cost and still pay us $$$ double the payoff odds and still make a profit"!

              "I assume you believe that because you can prove it or you're throwing outBS to see if any of it sticks". 

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               What? Your opinion was snarky and full of "BS" and "PROVE IT" and "Sticky" etc. 

              Now, it makes even less sense because it's a known FACT for anyone to see.  It made no sense when you wrote it then and more even now. It's an open and obvious fact known to thousands of players for years. No one needs proof. It's everywhere.   

              The "Proof or you're throwing out BS to see if it sticks " was a  comment not an opinion? The way you were awkwardly groping around and questioning was weird. Those facts are just common knowledge around the forums.  Millions of those transactions prove it. They exist, and work, and at a profit. Plain as the egg on your face. 

              The State Lotteries have plenty of room to improve the odds and Payouts in the future if they wanted to. Price fixing anyone? 

               Let's see if it "sticks" this time. 

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                Lotteries:  Designed or approved by politicians with the intent of generating revenue.  There is no other purpose.  How can you possibly win?  Play less and the state finds other tax revenues.  They'll get you one way or another.  So I plunk down a buck or two every now and again.  Maybe I'll hit a jackpot game in my lifetime.  Probably not.

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                  Lotteries:  Designed or approved by politicians with the intent of generating revenue.  There is no other purpose.  How can you possibly win?  Play less and the state finds other tax revenues.  They'll get you one way or another.  So I plunk down a buck or two every now and again.  Maybe I'll hit a jackpot game in my lifetime.  Probably not.

                  I had my 5/6 in one line. At the time chances were better and cheaper.

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                     Just maybe a few of these state lotteries will start to offer better Odds and Payouts in the near future. 

                     When they do start to compete some of these old Lottery Post Systems will start to look a lot better ! 

                     

                     https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/178451

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                      Here is a Doubles System Strategy that Bobp wrote about. It's one of those serious systems that come along now and then.

                       Imagine this system if you could play it at .25 cents per ticket not .50.

                      Imagine payouts at almost double the current going rates using this method. It's gonna' happen soon. It will happen when the State Lotteries start to compete with more reasonable terms of one degree or the other. Price fixing is illegal, but not if you're the Government. Competition will eventually break this up so study and be ready.

                           

                       

                       http://www.lotto-logix.com/txthouse/pick3dds.html

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                        HIm 

                         

                        what system/strategies do you use to increase your chance in winning for the NY numbers and win4?

                        I play using probabilty. 

                        Knowing that the game will either draw..

                        2even 1odd, 2odd 1even, 2high 1low or 2low 1high. 

                        Also knowing that there are only 10 digits to chose from

                        and that all the digits will cycle within a certain time period. 

                        Gives me the opportunity to pick winners the majority of the time. 

                         

                        Example:If you flip a coin 7x's and each time it landed on tails.

                        What is the probability of the last 3 flips of that coin being heads?

                        At that point you can probably start betting your spectators big money that heads WILL come out within those 3flips(3 draws)

                         

                        Some people go back 30 days into the game looking for clues. 

                        My uncle does this. But most of what you need to see/notice is

                        in the short term trends of the game. 

                         

                        Example: If you look back 2 full days and noticed that within

                        those 2 days the ball machines drew three(3)combinations containing 

                        2high 1low and one(1)combination containing 2lows and 1high.

                        What is  the probability of the fifth(5th) combination containing two(2)low digits  and one(1)high digit?! 

                         

                        Which 2 lows? Probabilty 

                        Which 1 high? Probabilty

                        Which high is even or odd? Probability

                        Which digit will draw first? Probabilty 

                         

                        Probabilty. 

                        The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!! Wink

                         I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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                           Just maybe a few of these state lotteries will start to offer better Odds and Payouts in the near future. 

                           When they do start to compete some of these old Lottery Post Systems will start to look a lot better ! 

                           

                           https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/178451

                          Interesting concept of States competing with each other.......

                          Why? No need to. Why compete with each other? If one  state were to offer a better payout, would only increase sales for a short period. It would come from persons willing to travel to there from elsewhere for however how long it takes them to figure the odds didn't change. No state allows sales of its tickets outside its own state.

                          Best hope of competition would be the multi state lotteries. But don't look for that any time soon. The states they operate in lose no real revenue to them. The multi state lotteries know where the bread and butter is. They would not take any steps to alienate the member states.

                          So where do you think this "competition" will come from?

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                            Just some new form of good old Greed usually works! Maybe a particular state attempting to increase their own sales, and experimenting around with different rules and payouts will start it by accident.

                            A financially strapped State desperately attempting to save their lottery and increase ticket sales. 

                            Pressure from the voters or politicians trying to get elected. Pressure to change existing legislation. A libertarian could beat a socialist one day and clear all the runways. Apparently, stuff does happen. 

                            Who knows? Things change. "Life will find a way," and usually so will gamblers. More money gambles under the table than over.

                            From overseas in one form or the other. It could gain momentum and start there as more and more things go online.   

                            Some industry types are betting on a completely new idea that will explode out of LasVegas. They are pretty creative and really like money over there I hear.

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                              Frankly, while the daily games do well in most states, it's scratchoffs that states really clean up on. In my state, scratchoffs outsell every other game offered. I imagine it's the same in the other states as well.

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