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# 27 minus the sum PLUS

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I mentioned this in the thread of 27 minus the sum. Lakerben asked me to start a new thread. So here goes.

BTW, 27 minus the sum is not new. Lakerben first mentioned it in some posts in 2014.

I believe in the 34 rundown primarily because it will MOST ALWAYS give you the correct vtrac. If not familiar with vtracs this may be a little hard to follow at first.

I will use KS draw, date of 05/02/2016 as example.

27 minus the sum and mirror would be this:

897=24  03  58

077=14  13  68

138=12  15  60

If you use results of the 3-4 rundown, indicated vtrac is 2 which is digits 1 or 6.

So your focus becomes the pairs with a 1 or 6: 13 15 68 60

If you wheel the other digits to this: 0,3,1,5,6,8 you get 13 boxed combinations.

013 015 016 036 056 068 135 136 138 156 158 168368 568

MID draw for the day was 506. Could have wheeled it straight and gotten it straight. More combo's though.

If not familiar with the 3-4 rundown, here's a link.

I wanted to show more examples and statistics but my computer is being very difficult to get along with.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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This would be great for excel.  That way the vtracs could computed with the 3,4 system.  Nice!

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What if you took the square root and multiplied it by apple pie, adding up the sinus of the playable winning angle? Of course don't forget to subtract the number of avocado!

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What if you took the square root and multiplied it by apple pie, adding up the sinus of the playable winning angle? Of course don't forget to subtract the number of avocado!

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I am finding this system very useful for pairs. Specifically in narrowing down the pair in conjunction with the 3-4 rundown.

They complement each other well.

As far as putting the 3-4 rundown in excel, it has never been done as far as I can find. I am NOT the guy for it. I just do it by hand and get AMAZING results.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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Nm 794

Show an example.

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Nm 794

Show an example.

I'll give it a try. First off the number you gave is actually a day draw. In my experience the 3-4 works best off an evening draw. Sets the tone for the day. So lets back up a bit to get there.

NM 045 was the draw.

045  09=sum   18  63                                     4 0 3 4 4 4            3 0 4 4 3 4

509  14=sum    13 68                                       4 3 7 8 8               3 4 8 7 7

917  17=sum    20  75                                        7 1 6 7                  7 3 6 5

8 7 4                     1 9 2

6 2                        1 2

So you can see the workout for 27 minus the sum and the 3-4. The 3-4 shows vtrac 2 1,6  and vtrac 3 2,7. I would consider the 2 vtrac stronger because both digits show and the 7 only for vtrac 3. But it doesn't always work out that way.  Although my experience has shown the vtrac 2, since it is lower ALMOST always shows. Sorry for the typeface change. On the tablet, has a mind of its own sometimes.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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Pairs:

27 minus the sum   18 38 80  02 26              3-4 rundown  68 28 17

13 32 82 06 28                                      67 27 19

12 30 86  08 27                                     64 24  11

10 36 83 07  25                                     62 21  14

16 37 87 05                                           61 21  17

17  35 85                                               69 22  18

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On the 3-4 rundown, use only the digits in the bottom two rows to make a pair. Probably not how you envisioned this working but it does. Next step, run the pairs through a filter. I use a pyramid by Only Money. Seems strange but it works for me here in KS. Not familiar enough with NM so will use the same. Test in your state before you spend money.

In the filter based on that draw date, there is no digit 8. So all pairs with 8 go away. In the rundown the pairs digits must touch. If not they are discarded. EX, 21 or 12. It stays. Unless ruled out by the day's filter.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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The idea is to get matching pairs. I will list the pairs left after filtering.

27 minus: 32,35       3-4: 67,17

30,26               62

36,27               27

37,67               29

I have learned that the matches hold the most promise. So, we are left with 26,27,67. I match with digits in the rundown or the 27 minus.

27 minus:261, 260, 267, 268, 263, 265, 271, 278, 273, 270, 278, 275, 671, 678, 673, 670, 675

3-4 rundown: 672,678,671,679,628,627,624,621,629,  278, 274,271, 279

Eliminate duplicates.

Now as you can see, we did not get that 794 Day draw.

But experience has shown, One of the draw for that day will show. Decision is...stayu with vtrac 3 or move to 2. vtrac 2 is 1 or 6.

Count drops if you switch. In this case either one would get the evening draw. 642.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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Now you may have noticed the day number plainly in the 3-4 rundown. I have learned to make pairs off the bottom two rows.

I have had success wheeling the digits off bottom two rows. Then matching to what shows in the total workout. Keeping the vtrac as the key digits. That would have gotten both these draws.Wheel it straight.  Lots more combo though.

One thing to always consider is repeat digits for weight in combo selection. Previous draw had a 4. Not common it goes a third time but does happen more than you think.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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I have a real hard time understanding black apple...i understand a little of th 34 rundown..but what does he mean by number line???? i will appreciate if you can clarify that for me. Hes a good man but he dosent speak english..ive tried asking him before but his answers are too confusing...thanks...

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Balancing the numbers? THis looks very good just trying to make sense of it....

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I'll give it a try. First off the number you gave is actually a day draw. In my experience the 3-4 works best off an evening draw. Sets the tone for the day. So lets back up a bit to get there.

NM 045 was the draw.

045  09=sum   18  63                                     4 0 3 4 4 4            3 0 4 4 3 4

509  14=sum    13 68                                       4 3 7 8 8               3 4 8 7 7

917  17=sum    20  75                                        7 1 6 7                  7 3 6 5

8 7 4                     1 9 2

6 2                        1 2

So you can see the workout for 27 minus the sum and the 3-4. The 3-4 shows vtrac 2 1,6  and vtrac 3 2,7. I would consider the 2 vtrac stronger because both digits show and the 7 only for vtrac 3. But it doesn't always work out that way.  Although my experience has shown the vtrac 2, since it is lower ALMOST always shows. Sorry for the typeface change. On the tablet, has a mind of its own sometimes.

Have a typo, should be 917=17  10  65

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The idea is to get matching pairs. I will list the pairs left after filtering.

27 minus: 32,35       3-4: 67,17

30,26               62

36,27               27

37,67               29

I have learned that the matches hold the most promise. So, we are left with 26,27,67. I match with digits in the rundown or the 27 minus.

27 minus:261, 260, 267, 268, 263, 265, 271, 278, 273, 270, 278, 275, 671, 678, 673, 670, 675

3-4 rundown: 672,678,671,679,628,627,624,621,629,  278, 274,271, 279

Eliminate duplicates.

Now as you can see, we did not get that 794 Day draw.

But experience has shown, One of the draw for that day will show. Decision is...stayu with vtrac 3 or move to 2. vtrac 2 is 1 or 6.

Count drops if you switch. In this case either one would get the evening draw. 642.

In this section and previous section I don't understand how you are getting the numbers.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to do a spreadsheet.

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In this section and previous section I don't understand how you are getting the numbers.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to do a spreadsheet.

I am sorry. I was using my tablet (computer is shared in our house).

In making the pairs just matching digits with each other in each sequence. 27 minus with its digits. 3-4 rundown with its.

Eliminate the duplicates and only use the matches.

Match those pairs to the digits in the workout to make combo's.

I will post today's workout so you can see again.

Did you do your tracking today ??

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