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Lakerben, you didn't balance the number. Last digit drops, middle digit doubles.

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    Todays workout for both 27- and 3-4 rundown.

    We are balancing the number today as we have a 3 digit variance in last draw, 069.  0 stays in front.

    Consult number line......1 8 5 2 9 6 3 0 7 4 1

    9 is before the 6 so number is 099. On with workout.

     

    069=15=12 67                                  4 0 3 9 4 9          3 0 4 9 3 9

    918=18=09 54                                    4 3 3 4 4             3 4 4 3 3

    915=15=12 67                                      7 6 7 8                7 8 7 6

                                                                   4 4 6                   6 6 4

                                                                     8 1                      3 1

     

    Pairs for 27-                                                        pairs for 3-4

    01  12  24  45  56  66  77                                    13  36  68

    02  14  25  46  57  67  79                                    16  38  48

    04  15  26  47  59  69                                          18 

    05  16  27  49                                                      11

    06  17  29                                                            14

    07  19  22

    09  11

    Run the filter, eliminate pairs. Remember just because you eliminate a pair with certain digits, does not mean that digit will not appear with another pair. Example 5 is not in the pyramid so is eliminated from pair list. But still could come with another pair. Also, 3-4 pairs must be adjacent or are eliminated. Example, pair 38. If you look at rundown, nowhere is the 3 and 8 adjacent to each other. It is eliminated. 

    Wheel the remaining pairs with the digits in each workout, that match the other workout, eliminate duplicates. This is what's left. Note, I often will add previous draws digits to pairs if they don't already exist. Like the 9,6,0. That way I cover repeat digits.

    110  160                                   114  163  184  481  681

    112  162                                   116  164  186  486  683

    114  164                                   118  168  181  483  684

    116  166                                   113  169  189  489  689

    117  167                                   119          180  480  680 

    119  169

    Now we are looking for  vtrac 4 3 or 8. Why? Bottom row of numbers give vtrac in 3-4 rundown. Vtrac 2 is indicated by the ones present, but the vtrac 4 is stronger. both digits are showing. you can always make the decision for yourself.

    We currently have 28 combos showing. A lot for most folks, but you would cover both sides. Pick vtrac 4? 16 combos.

    Pick vtrac 2? 25 combos.

    One more reduction is possible. Blackapple has taught us that the bottom 2 numbers can also be root indicators. I have found in actual use the way I do it, the bottom two rows can be. Not perfect, have missed doing this. But if you have to reduce, this is one way. So this would leave 112 166 114 116 118 163 168 184 181 481 483 489 480 683  14 total combos. (provided I didn't make a mistake.)

    Now for vtrac 4 you have 10 combos.  vtrac 2, you have 11 combos.

    If you don't understand something, please ask. Each of these methods can stand on their own. But together, they are blockbusters. 

    In May, the 27- minus matched the 3-4 rundown in pairs 14 times. It had a hit 12 times. Virtually a lock together.

    Well, pretty close.

    MID 868. Right on track with the vtrac indicator of  vtrac 4-3,8.  Sort of half expected a double due to last nights draw of 069. O indicates double. 866 is in the rundown. Flip to that is 688.

    EVE 111. Second vtrack was 2. Did not expect a triple. Should have. Was actually in the pair eliminator pyramid. Too coincidental I guess.

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      Well, pretty close.

      MID 868. Right on track with the vtrac indicator of  vtrac 4-3,8.  Sort of half expected a double due to last nights draw of 069. O indicates double. 866 is in the rundown. Flip to that is 688.

      EVE 111. Second vtrack was 2. Did not expect a triple. Should have. Was actually in the pair eliminator pyramid. Too coincidental I guess.

      You got mail.

      How about them cowboys!

       

       

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        Lakerben, you didn't balance the number. Last digit drops, middle digit doubles.

        I went by the program he has.

        How about them cowboys!

         

         

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          Guys,

          I just can't seem to get the hang of this system. It is to confusing for me . Sorry I couldn't help.

          Ted

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            Guys,

            I just can't seem to get the hang of this system. It is to confusing for me . Sorry I couldn't help.

            Ted

            I was referring to the ba program from another site.

             

            Yours is nice and you did good.  Thanks theo!

            How about them cowboys!

             

             

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              nm p3

                3 - 4 Rundown Pyramid 
                483848  384838 
                  32233      23322   
                    5456          5654     
                      992              229       
                        92                  42         
                                                                   
                1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1                               
                Number balance when digits are three digits apart only                               
                                                                 
                                                                   
                27 minus pairs  3-4 pairs                               
                061616566666  992949                               
                031313536363  992949                               
                061616566666  922242                               
                011111516161  922242                               
                081818586868  922242                               
                011111516161  992949                               
                Separate Duplicates                               

              Your the man!

              How about them cowboys!

               

               

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                nm p3

                  3 - 4 Rundown Pyramid 
                  483848  384838 
                    32233      23322   
                      5456          5654     
                        992              229       
                          92                  42         
                                                                     
                  1-8-5-2-9-6-3-0-7-4-1                               
                  Number balance when digits are three digits apart only                               
                                                                   
                                                                     
                  27 minus pairs  3-4 pairs                               
                  061616566666  992949                               
                  031313536363  992949                               
                  061616566666  922242                               
                  011111516161  922242                               
                  081818586868  922242                               
                  011111516161  992949                               
                  Separate Duplicates                               

                Your the man!

                Oh had 454 - would that be 544

                023 would be 233 since 03 is not together

                 

                I ended up with 87 for 27- and 27 for 3-4 rundown

                Where are people getting the pairs.

                                        3-4                                                                                 27-

                45553444                                304233                                           454 =13 14 69

                  98788                                      34656                                             023    5 22  77

                     8667                                        7122                                            908=  17 10 65

                        534                                          834

                           87                                           27

                 

                I take it these are two separate programs but where do the pairs come in?

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                  correction

                  First 3-4  shd read 453444 instead of 45553444 - sorry

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                    Oh had 454 - would that be 544

                    023 would be 233 since 03 is not together

                     

                    I ended up with 87 for 27- and 27 for 3-4 rundown

                    Where are people getting the pairs.

                                            3-4                                                                                 27-

                    45553444                                304233                                           454 =13 14 69

                      98788                                      34656                                             023    5 22  77

                         8667                                        7122                                            908=  17 10 65

                            534                                          834

                               87                                           27

                     

                    I take it these are two separate programs but where do the pairs come in?

                    That number would be 455.

                    For the 3-4 rundown, the numbers come from pairing up the digits from the last two rows. The pairs come in from the fact that MOST all winning combinations come from there. 

                    So in the example above above the key numbers would be 2 and 7 followed by 8 and 3. These are vtracs indicated.

                    You don't have to play the vtrac as your digits if you don't want, but I get more hits because I'm covering the digit and the mirror.

                    in the 27-, doing the same. Any pair that matches the pair in the 3-4 is prime candidate. When there is a match, there is ALMOST always a hit.

                    In this example, which is a midday draw, the next draw was 032, which you can see the 23 pair in the right part of the 3-4 rundown.

                    Make sense?

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                      That number would be 455.

                      For the 3-4 rundown, the numbers come from pairing up the digits from the last two rows. The pairs come in from the fact that MOST all winning combinations come from there. 

                      So in the example above above the key numbers would be 2 and 7 followed by 8 and 3. These are vtracs indicated.

                      You don't have to play the vtrac as your digits if you don't want, but I get more hits because I'm covering the digit and the mirror.

                      in the 27-, doing the same. Any pair that matches the pair in the 3-4 is prime candidate. When there is a match, there is ALMOST always a hit.

                      In this example, which is a midday draw, the next draw was 032, which you can see the 23 pair in the right part of the 3-4 rundown.

                      Make sense?

                      Howdy jayhawk.  This still is clear as mud,but I hope you are winning with it.

                       

                       

                      Thumbs Up

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                        That number would be 455.

                        For the 3-4 rundown, the numbers come from pairing up the digits from the last two rows. The pairs come in from the fact that MOST all winning combinations come from there. 

                        So in the example above above the key numbers would be 2 and 7 followed by 8 and 3. These are vtracs indicated.

                        You don't have to play the vtrac as your digits if you don't want, but I get more hits because I'm covering the digit and the mirror.

                        in the 27-, doing the same. Any pair that matches the pair in the 3-4 is prime candidate. When there is a match, there is ALMOST always a hit.

                        In this example, which is a midday draw, the next draw was 032, which you can see the 23 pair in the right part of the 3-4 rundown.

                        Make sense?

                        Thank you so much!  I noticed that I was only using 455 once and shd be using it twice. 

                        454 to 455   OH  Midday Sunday June 26               

                           443545                 344535                     

                           8 7 8 9 9               7 8 9 8 8

                             6 6 8 8                 6 8 8 7

                               3 5 7                    5 7 6

                                  8 3                       3 4     

                         

                        27-

                        454 = 13  14  69     

                        Today evening in OH  was 415

                        Will keep working with it   Thanks again

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                          Thank you so much!  I noticed that I was only using 455 once and shd be using it twice. 

                          454 to 455   OH  Midday Sunday June 26               

                             443545                 344535                     

                             8 7 8 9 9               7 8 9 8 8

                               6 6 8 8                 6 8 8 7

                                 3 5 7                    5 7 6

                                    8 3                       3 4     

                           

                          27-

                          454 = 13  14  69     

                          Today evening in OH  was 415

                          Will keep working with it   Thanks again

                          OH for today midday was 833.  Of course everything looks different when the draw appears but I see it more clearly now. 

                          Hummmmm.  Is this what you mean when you say the pairs fall in the last two rows?  88 on and 33 on left side and 88 on the right side.  Thanks for all your help.  Hope I am not being a nuisance.  I know it is easier to ask people for numbers but I want to understand the tools.  454 hit Sunday so this was two days later - midday draw.

                          Also yesterday midday was 908 so that would be 900?  That brings the same numbers on both sides when I finished the calculations.       

                          4 9 3 0 4 0            3 9 4 0 3 0

                           4 3 3 4 4                  3 4 4 3 3

                             7 6 7 8                    7 8 7 6

                               4 4 6                      6 6 4

                                   8 1                         31

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                            OH for today midday was 833.  Of course everything looks different when the draw appears but I see it more clearly now. 

                            Hummmmm.  Is this what you mean when you say the pairs fall in the last two rows?  88 on and 33 on left side and 88 on the right side.  Thanks for all your help.  Hope I am not being a nuisance.  I know it is easier to ask people for numbers but I want to understand the tools.  454 hit Sunday so this was two days later - midday draw.

                            Also yesterday midday was 908 so that would be 900?  That brings the same numbers on both sides when I finished the calculations.       

                            4 9 3 0 4 0            3 9 4 0 3 0

                             4 3 3 4 4                  3 4 4 3 3

                               7 6 7 8                    7 8 7 6

                                 4 4 6                      6 6 4

                                     8 1                         31

                            YES !!!! Someone sees it !!!!!

                            That is correct. Blackapple is the originator of the 3-4 rundown. He says the workout can be good for multiple draws. I tend to use only for two. And this is true because the number for the workout for 415 is 544. See how that matches to your workout here. So The 3 or 8 is the key number. And you can see the mirror of it in the workout, 838. I always flip and mirror doubles in the workout.

                            And the pair is out of the bottom two rows. I tend to use the night draw as my base for workouts. You might try this and see if you don't start to get both the mid and eve in the workouts. I do with KS.

                            This is the workout based off 415:

                                          4 5 3 4 4 4        3 5 4 4 3 4

                                           9 8 7 8 8           8 9 8 7 7

                                            8 6 6 7              8 8 6 5

                                             5 3 4                 7 5 2

                                              8 7                    3 7

                            Pairs would be 78,75,73,74,77,72  Now, should mention that pairs digits should touch somewhere in workout. For instance, pair 42

                                                     85,83,84,82            does not. It cancels out. Pair 82 does not. It cancels out. Pair 55 does not. It cancels out. 

                                                     53,54,55,52            I also use a filter for pairs. It would cancel out 73, and 32, This helps to reduce combo's, which

                                                     34,32,33                 will filter automatically if you use the Pick 3 wheel on LP. I did not do a rundown using 27-sum

                                                     42,                           as I imagine you already did. Did the pairs match?

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                              I give it two middays draws if done from the midday..to show

                               

                              Got chills seeing you master the workout.

                              I give it two evening draws if done from the evening..to show

                              But it can crossover draws

                              ...I see you are patience with it.