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dr san

I don't really follow the summer Olympics, all my favorite events are in the winter games.  I plan to try and catch

Phelps. 

Rl

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    Hi all

    I am still working of the P-4 stats, Trying to figure out the best way to format the data so that it's easy to

    understand.  I got pulled away yesterday and running a bit behind today

    RL

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      mid to mid, three positional digits with < 10 game skips. 

       

      eve to eve, three positional digits > 10 game skip

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        mid p-4 pairs

        Box Pair shows
        00= 58                 
        01= 99  11= 52               
        02= 89  12=102  22= 52             
        03= 97  13= 94  23= 94  33= 50           
        04=107  14=105  24= 94  34=119  44= 47         
        05= 84  15=115  25=101  35=100  45= 99  55= 62       
        06= 77  16= 91  26= 98  36= 91  46= 88  56= 78  66= 58     
        07=111  17= 94  27= 99  37=110  47=107  57=102  67= 89  77= 59   
        08= 92  18= 94  28= 88  38= 95  48= 99  58= 82  68= 96  78=107  88= 47 
        09= 89  19= 94  29= 94  39= 87  49= 87  59=103  69= 85  79= 92  89= 93  99= 60

        Pairs games out
        00=  8                 
        01= 15  11= 20               
        02= 23  12=  7  22=  7             
        03=  2  13=  3  23=  6  33= 22           
        04=  2  14= 12  24=  6  34=  2  44= 18         
        05= 16  15=  3  25= 10  35=  3  45= 10  55=  5       
        06=  2  16= 25  26=  6  36=  2  46=  2  56= 24  66= 63     
        07= 15  17=  0  27= 26  37= 19  47= 20  57=  5  67= 27  77=  0   
        08=  1  18=  3  28= 31  38=  3  48= 12  58=  3  68=  4  78= 37  88=  1 
        09=  1  19= 15  29= 23  39= 31  49= 23  59= 11  69=  9  79= 11  89=  1  99= 13

        eve p-4 pairs

        Box Pair shows
        00= 53                 
        01=108  11= 60               
        02= 96  12= 99  22= 43             
        03=105  13=109  23=103  33= 59           
        04= 92  14=120  24= 94  34=104  44= 54         
        05= 91  15= 95  25= 78  35= 93  45= 93  55= 51       
        06=105  16=105  26= 91  36=117  46=102  56= 87  66= 58     
        07= 89  17=102  27= 91  37=102  47= 91  57=101  67=109  77= 50   
        08= 89  18=106  28= 83  38= 86  48= 94  58= 97  68= 95  78= 99  88= 51 
        09= 76  19= 99  29= 83  39= 94  49= 95  59= 92  69=100  79=105  89= 88  99= 60

        Pairs games out
        00= 11                 
        01=  2  11=  6               
        02=  3  12= 24  22= 77             
        03= 12  13= 28  23=  1  33= 20           
        04=  3  14=  5  24=  1  34=  1  44=  5         
        05=  2  15=  2  25=  3  35= 22  45=  3  55= 29       
        06= 13  16= 24  26= 21  36= 13  46= 19  56= 17  66= 13     
        07= 14  17= 27  27=  0  37=  1  47=  1  57= 14  67= 21  77=  0   
        08=  2  18=  2  28= 10  38= 16  48= 25  58=  2  68= 16  78= 10  88=  4 
        09=  8  19=  5  29=  0  39= 12  49=  5  59=  4  69= 19  79=  0  89=  4  99= 19

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          The results posted below are positional,

          Pick-4  evening to evening draws

          Games with 0 skips <=  9  -> 27 avg 1 in  37.03704
          Games with 1 skips <=  9  ->160 avg 1 in  6.25
          Games with 2 skips <=  9  ->315 avg 1 in  3.174603
          Games with 3 skips <=  9  ->356 avg 1 in  2.808989
          Games with 4 skips <=  9  ->142 avg 1 in  7.042253

          Games with 0 skips >= 10  ->142 avg 1 in  7.042253
          Games with 1 skips >= 10  ->356 avg 1 in  2.808989
          Games with 2 skips >= 10  ->315 avg 1 in  3.174603
          Games with 3 skips >= 10  ->160 avg 1 in  6.25
          Games with 4 skips >= 10  -> 27 avg 1 in  37.03704

          pick-4 mid to mid draws

          Games with 0 skips <=  9  ->  27   avg 1 in  37.03704
          Games with 1 skips <=  9  ->141   avg 1 in  7.092198
          Games with 2 skips <=  9  ->331   avg 1 in  3.021148
          Games with 3 skips <=  9  ->380   avg 1 in  2.631579
          Games with 4 skips <=  9  ->121   avg 1 in  8.264462

          Games with 0 skips >= 10 ->121   avg 1 in  8.264462
          Games with 1 skips >= 10 ->380   avg 1 in  2.631579
          Games with 2 skips >= 10 ->331   avg 1 in  3.021148
          Games with 3 skips >= 10 ->141   avg 1 in  7.092198
          Games with 4 skips >= 10 ->  27   avg 1 in  37.03704

          I will post mid to eve and eve to mid later.

          RL

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            Is are about ratios, some will spend $30 for prize of $50. I'll like the ratio of spending $300 for $500. If you're risk-aversed, then forget P4, and focus on P3(which has a lot twist/turns with lower payout ).

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              p-4  mid to eve

              Games with 0 skips <= 9 -> 14 avg 1 in 71.42857
              Games with 1 skips <= 9 ->134 avg 1 in 7.462687
              Games with 2 skips <= 9 ->384 avg 1 in 2.604167
              Games with 3 skips <= 9 ->320 avg 1 in 3.125
              Games with 4 skips <= 9 ->148 avg 1 in 6.756757

              Games with 0 skips >= 10 ->148 avg 1 in 6.756757
              Games with 1 skips >= 10 ->320 avg 1 in 3.125
              Games with 2 skips >= 10 ->384 avg 1 in 2.604167
              Games with 3 skips >= 10 ->134 avg 1 in 7.462687
              Games with 4 skips >= 10 -> 14 avg 1 in 71.42857

              p-4 eve to mid

              Games with 0 skips <= 9 -> 14 avg 1 in 71.42857
              Games with 1 skips <= 9 ->135 avg 1 in 7.407407
              Games with 2 skips <= 9 ->384 avg 1 in 2.604167
              Games with 3 skips <= 9 ->318 avg 1 in 3.144654
              Games with 4 skips <= 9 ->149 avg 1 in 6.71141


              Games with 0 skips >= 10 ->149 avg 1 in 6.71141
              Games with 1 skips >= 10 ->318 avg 1 in 3.144654
              Games with 2 skips >= 10 ->384 avg 1 in 2.604167
              Games with 3 skips >= 10 ->135 avg 1 in 7.407407
              Games with 4 skips >= 10 -> 14 avg 1 in 71.42857

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                Is are about ratios, some will spend $30 for prize of $50. I'll like the ratio of spending $300 for $500. If you're risk-aversed, then forget P4, and focus on P3(which has a lot twist/turns with lower payout ).

                Here in MO p-3 pays $600 for a straight, still not enough for me to get interested.  Maybe some day but not now.

                Playing for straight hits I hit more digits playing P-4 vs P-3.  Don't know why p-4 seems easier but that's where I

                am  at.

                RL

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                  From the stats above it does not look like it makes much different playing combined vs mid to mid or eve to eve.

                  I was hoping something would show up but looks like nothing other than one should play a mix of both high and

                  low skip digits,  2-2, 1-3 3-1 etc.  I think I will run another test for non positional skips. 

                  RL

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                    Here in MO p-3 pays $600 for a straight, still not enough for me to get interested.  Maybe some day but not now.

                    Playing for straight hits I hit more digits playing P-4 vs P-3.  Don't know why p-4 seems easier but that's where I

                    am  at.

                    RL

                    With regard to the ratio 1/10 , P5 is manageable than P4 which is manageable than P3. The issue here is PRIZE RATIO, I will rather opt for $5000 prize with a cost $1000  than a cost of $100 for $500.

                    Lets take the string 672804 off the MO's eve draw 3018( 8/2/2016), considering 6C4 (with digit order), we generate 360 combos:

                    Permutations without repetition (n=6, r=4)
                    Using Items: 6,7,2,8,0,4

                    List has 360 entries.
                    {6,7,2,8} {6,7,2,0} {6,7,2,4} {6,7,8,2} {6,7,8,0} {6,7,8,4} {6,7,0,2} {6,7,0,8} {6,7,0,4} {6,7,4,2} {6,7,4,8} {6,7,4,0} {6,2,7,8} {6,2,7,0} {6,2,7,4} {6,2,8,7} {6,2,8,0} {6,2,8,4} {6,2,0,7} {6,2,0,8} {6,2,0,4} {6,2,4,7} {6,2,4,8} {6,2,4,0} {6,8,7,2} {6,8,7,0} {6,8,7,4} {6,8,2,7} {6,8,2,0} {6,8,2,4} {6,8,0,7} {6,8,0,2} {6,8,0,4} {6,8,4,7} {6,8,4,2} {6,8,4,0} {6,0,7,2} {6,0,7,8} {6,0,7,4} {6,0,2,7} {6,0,2,8} {6,0,2,4} {6,0,8,7} {6,0,8,2} {6,0,8,4} {6,0,4,7} {6,0,4,2} {6,0,4,8} {6,4,7,2} {6,4,7,8} {6,4,7,0} {6,4,2,7} {6,4,2,8} {6,4,2,0} {6,4,8,7} {6,4,8,2} {6,4,8,0} {6,4,0,7} {6,4,0,2} {6,4,0,8} {7,6,2,8} {7,6,2,0} {7,6,2,4} {7,6,8,2} {7,6,8,0} {7,6,8,4} {7,6,0,2} {7,6,0,8} {7,6,0,4} {7,6,4,2} {7,6,4,8} {7,6,4,0} {7,2,6,8} {7,2,6,0} {7,2,6,4} {7,2,8,6} {7,2,8,0} {7,2,8,4} {7,2,0,6} {7,2,0,8} {7,2,0,4} {7,2,4,6} {7,2,4,8} {7,2,4,0} {7,8,6,2} {7,8,6,0} {7,8,6,4} {7,8,2,6} {7,8,2,0} {7,8,2,4} {7,8,0,6} {7,8,0,2} {7,8,0,4} {7,8,4,6} {7,8,4,2} {7,8,4,0} {7,0,6,2} {7,0,6,8} {7,0,6,4} {7,0,2,6} {7,0,2,8} {7,0,2,4} {7,0,8,6} {7,0,8,2} {7,0,8,4} {7,0,4,6} {7,0,4,2} {7,0,4,8} {7,4,6,2} {7,4,6,8} {7,4,6,0} {7,4,2,6} {7,4,2,8} {7,4,2,0} {7,4,8,6} {7,4,8,2} {7,4,8,0} {7,4,0,6} {7,4,0,2} {7,4,0,8} {2,6,7,8} {2,6,7,0} {2,6,7,4} {2,6,8,7} {2,6,8,0} {2,6,8,4} {2,6,0,7} {2,6,0,8} {2,6,0,4} {2,6,4,7} {2,6,4,8} {2,6,4,0} {2,7,6,8} {2,7,6,0} {2,7,6,4} {2,7,8,6} {2,7,8,0} {2,7,8,4} {2,7,0,6} {2,7,0,8} {2,7,0,4} {2,7,4,6} {2,7,4,8} {2,7,4,0} {2,8,6,7} {2,8,6,0} {2,8,6,4} {2,8,7,6} {2,8,7,0} {2,8,7,4} {2,8,0,6} {2,8,0,7} {2,8,0,4} {2,8,4,6} {2,8,4,7} {2,8,4,0} {2,0,6,7} {2,0,6,8} {2,0,6,4} {2,0,7,6} {2,0,7,8} {2,0,7,4} {2,0,8,6} {2,0,8,7} {2,0,8,4} {2,0,4,6} {2,0,4,7} {2,0,4,8} {2,4,6,7} {2,4,6,8} {2,4,6,0} {2,4,7,6} {2,4,7,8} {2,4,7,0} {2,4,8,6} {2,4,8,7} {2,4,8,0} {2,4,0,6} {2,4,0,7} {2,4,0,8} {8,6,7,2} {8,6,7,0} {8,6,7,4} {8,6,2,7} {8,6,2,0} {8,6,2,4} {8,6,0,7} {8,6,0,2} {8,6,0,4} {8,6,4,7} {8,6,4,2} {8,6,4,0} {8,7,6,2} {8,7,6,0} {8,7,6,4} {8,7,2,6} {8,7,2,0} {8,7,2,4} {8,7,0,6} {8,7,0,2} {8,7,0,4} {8,7,4,6} {8,7,4,2} {8,7,4,0} {8,2,6,7} {8,2,6,0} {8,2,6,4} {8,2,7,6} {8,2,7,0} {8,2,7,4} {8,2,0,6} {8,2,0,7} {8,2,0,4} {8,2,4,6} {8,2,4,7} {8,2,4,0} {8,0,6,7} {8,0,6,2} {8,0,6,4} {8,0,7,6} {8,0,7,2} {8,0,7,4} {8,0,2,6} {8,0,2,7} {8,0,2,4} {8,0,4,6} {8,0,4,7} {8,0,4,2} {8,4,6,7} {8,4,6,2} {8,4,6,0} {8,4,7,6} {8,4,7,2} {8,4,7,0} {8,4,2,6} {8,4,2,7} {8,4,2,0} {8,4,0,6} {8,4,0,7} {8,4,0,2} {0,6,7,2} {0,6,7,8} {0,6,7,4} {0,6,2,7} {0,6,2,8} {0,6,2,4} {0,6,8,7} {0,6,8,2} {0,6,8,4} {0,6,4,7} {0,6,4,2} {0,6,4,8} {0,7,6,2} {0,7,6,8} {0,7,6,4} {0,7,2,6} {0,7,2,8} {0,7,2,4} {0,7,8,6} {0,7,8,2} {0,7,8,4} {0,7,4,6} {0,7,4,2} {0,7,4,8} {0,2,6,7} {0,2,6,8} {0,2,6,4} {0,2,7,6} {0,2,7,8} {0,2,7,4} {0,2,8,6} {0,2,8,7} {0,2,8,4} {0,2,4,6} {0,2,4,7} {0,2,4,8} {0,8,6,7} {0,8,6,2} {0,8,6,4} {0,8,7,6} {0,8,7,2} {0,8,7,4} {0,8,2,6} {0,8,2,7} {0,8,2,4} {0,8,4,6} {0,8,4,7} {0,8,4,2} {0,4,6,7} {0,4,6,2} {0,4,6,8} {0,4,7,6} {0,4,7,2} {0,4,7,8} {0,4,2,6} {0,4,2,7} {0,4,2,8} {0,4,8,6} {0,4,8,7} {0,4,8,2} {4,6,7,2} {4,6,7,8} {4,6,7,0} {4,6,2,7} {4,6,2,8} {4,6,2,0} {4,6,8,7} {4,6,8,2} {4,6,8,0} {4,6,0,7} {4,6,0,2} {4,6,0,8} {4,7,6,2} {4,7,6,8} {4,7,6,0} {4,7,2,6} {4,7,2,8} {4,7,2,0} {4,7,8,6} {4,7,8,2} {4,7,8,0} {4,7,0,6} {4,7,0,2} {4,7,0,8} {4,2,6,7} {4,2,6,8} {4,2,6,0} {4,2,7,6} {4,2,7,8} {4,2,7,0} {4,2,8,6} {4,2,8,7} {4,2,8,0} {4,2,0,6} {4,2,0,7} {4,2,0,8} {4,8,6,7} {4,8,6,2} {4,8,6,0} {4,8,7,6} {4,8,7,2} {4,8,7,0} {4,8,2,6} {4,8,2,7} {4,8,2,0} {4,8,0,6} {4,8,0,7} {4,8,0,2} {4,0,6,7} {4,0,6,2} {4,0,6,8} {4,0,7,6} {4,0,7,2} {4,0,7,8} {4,0,2,6} {4,0,2,7} {4,0,2,8} {4,0,8,6} {4,0,8,7} {4,0,8,2}

                    Lets see how many  str8 hits within 10 draws(still below the threshold of prize tag).

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                      MO pays $6000.00 for a P-4 straight and the choice to switch from my 5-39 to p-4 is based on the odds.  The odds of  winning my

                      5-39 are 1 in 575,757 and the average JP is around $142,000.00.   The odds for P-4 are 1 in 10,000 so a P-4 player should be able

                      to win more over time than playing the 5-39.  575,757 / 10,000 = 57.6 * 6,000 = $345,600.   The 5-39 pays for lower level prizes so

                      this figure is not exact but I think the p-4 is still a better bet.  I have a little app that I call S-C Steps.  There are 12 choices and all

                      12 must be correct to reduce to a single straight line.  4-steps each with 3 choices, of these the first choice gives odds of 1 in 3 and

                      other two choices are 50/50 and in some instances the odds are 1 to 1 for one of the choices.  Anyway I was able to average hitting

                      10 of the 12 in a live play test but my best was 11 of 12.  For the test I live played around 15 to 18 games and missed a straight by

                      one choice a couple times.  My quasi odds calculations say I should be able to hit a straight once in every 32 4-line plays but it was

                      around that time that I started building my CF program and p-4 play was put on the shelf.  CF is finished now and it includes a better

                      S-C step version so I am getting ready to go live.  Nothing lottery related is set in stone but I think I have a good chance with the new

                      tools and time will tell.  Playing the lottery takes a different mindset then what I move into when building a new program.  I will paper

                      play for a couple more weeks until I can get the right mindset. 

                       

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                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                        Here is a pic of one of the p-4 live play test where I missed 1 of the 12 S-C step choices. 

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

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                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                          adobea78

                          MO pays $6000.00 for a P-4 straight and the choice to switch from my 5-39 to p-4 is based on the odds.  The odds of  winning my

                          5-39 are 1 in 575,757 and the average JP is around $142,000.00.   The odds for P-4 are 1 in 10,000 so a P-4 player should be able

                          to win more over time than playing the 5-39.  575,757 / 10,000 = 57.6 * 6,000 = $345,600.   The 5-39 pays for lower level prizes so

                          this figure is not exact but I think the p-4 is still a better bet.  I have a little app that I call S-C Steps.  There are 12 choices and all

                          12 must be correct to reduce to a single straight line.  4-steps each with 3 choices, of these the first choice gives odds of 1 in 3 and

                          other two choices are 50/50 and in some instances the odds are 1 to 1 for one of the choices.  Anyway I was able to average hitting

                          10 of the 12 in a live play test but my best was 11 of 12.  For the test I live played around 15 to 18 games and missed a straight by

                          one choice a couple times.  My quasi odds calculations say I should be able to hit a straight once in every 32 4-line plays but it was

                          around that time that I started building my CF program and p-4 play was put on the shelf.  CF is finished now and it includes a better

                          S-C step version so I am getting ready to go live.  Nothing lottery related is set in stone but I think I have a good chance with the new

                          tools and time will tell.  Playing the lottery takes a different mindset then what I move into when building a new program.  I will paper

                          play for a couple more weeks until I can get the right mindset. 

                           

                          Rl looking forward to your live results with your newer version of sc!!! Good luck!! Da boot......

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                            I am hoping I can average one hit per month so in a year that's 12 * $6K for $72,000 or around $50,400 after taxes.

                            Cost to play 365*$4.00=$1,460 which still leaves a nice chunk of change.  I seem to do best on evening draws but 

                            may include midday if things work out.  As mentioned in the CF video I no longer have to hit all 12 steps and can split

                            the process among the different game engines setting only the values that look strongest for showing in the next

                            game.  This could go south but based on my earlier live test play,  it's not that big of a jump to clean up on the last 2

                            choices for a straight hit.  CF was built to handle the big games and using it for daily games is a bit of overkill.  Kind of

                            like using a nuke as a fly swatter. 

                            RL

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                              With regard to the ratio 1/10 , P5 is manageable than P4 which is manageable than P3. The issue here is PRIZE RATIO, I will rather opt for $5000 prize with a cost $1000  than a cost of $100 for $500.

                              Lets take the string 672804 off the MO's eve draw 3018( 8/2/2016), considering 6C4 (with digit order), we generate 360 combos:

                              Permutations without repetition (n=6, r=4)
                              Using Items: 6,7,2,8,0,4

                              List has 360 entries.
                              {6,7,2,8} {6,7,2,0} {6,7,2,4} {6,7,8,2} {6,7,8,0} {6,7,8,4} {6,7,0,2} {6,7,0,8} {6,7,0,4} {6,7,4,2} {6,7,4,8} {6,7,4,0} {6,2,7,8} {6,2,7,0} {6,2,7,4} {6,2,8,7} {6,2,8,0} {6,2,8,4} {6,2,0,7} {6,2,0,8} {6,2,0,4} {6,2,4,7} {6,2,4,8} {6,2,4,0} {6,8,7,2} {6,8,7,0} {6,8,7,4} {6,8,2,7} {6,8,2,0} {6,8,2,4} {6,8,0,7} {6,8,0,2} {6,8,0,4} {6,8,4,7} {6,8,4,2} {6,8,4,0} {6,0,7,2} {6,0,7,8} {6,0,7,4} {6,0,2,7} {6,0,2,8} {6,0,2,4} {6,0,8,7} {6,0,8,2} {6,0,8,4} {6,0,4,7} {6,0,4,2} {6,0,4,8} {6,4,7,2} {6,4,7,8} {6,4,7,0} {6,4,2,7} {6,4,2,8} {6,4,2,0} {6,4,8,7} {6,4,8,2} {6,4,8,0} {6,4,0,7} {6,4,0,2} {6,4,0,8} {7,6,2,8} {7,6,2,0} {7,6,2,4} {7,6,8,2} {7,6,8,0} {7,6,8,4} {7,6,0,2} {7,6,0,8} {7,6,0,4} {7,6,4,2} {7,6,4,8} {7,6,4,0} {7,2,6,8} {7,2,6,0} {7,2,6,4} {7,2,8,6} {7,2,8,0} {7,2,8,4} {7,2,0,6} {7,2,0,8} {7,2,0,4} {7,2,4,6} {7,2,4,8} {7,2,4,0} {7,8,6,2} {7,8,6,0} {7,8,6,4} {7,8,2,6} {7,8,2,0} {7,8,2,4} {7,8,0,6} {7,8,0,2} {7,8,0,4} {7,8,4,6} {7,8,4,2} {7,8,4,0} {7,0,6,2} {7,0,6,8} {7,0,6,4} {7,0,2,6} {7,0,2,8} {7,0,2,4} {7,0,8,6} {7,0,8,2} {7,0,8,4} {7,0,4,6} {7,0,4,2} {7,0,4,8} {7,4,6,2} {7,4,6,8} {7,4,6,0} {7,4,2,6} {7,4,2,8} {7,4,2,0} {7,4,8,6} {7,4,8,2} {7,4,8,0} {7,4,0,6} {7,4,0,2} {7,4,0,8} {2,6,7,8} {2,6,7,0} {2,6,7,4} {2,6,8,7} {2,6,8,0} {2,6,8,4} {2,6,0,7} {2,6,0,8} {2,6,0,4} {2,6,4,7} {2,6,4,8} {2,6,4,0} {2,7,6,8} {2,7,6,0} {2,7,6,4} {2,7,8,6} {2,7,8,0} {2,7,8,4} {2,7,0,6} {2,7,0,8} {2,7,0,4} {2,7,4,6} {2,7,4,8} {2,7,4,0} {2,8,6,7} {2,8,6,0} {2,8,6,4} {2,8,7,6} {2,8,7,0} {2,8,7,4} {2,8,0,6} {2,8,0,7} {2,8,0,4} {2,8,4,6} {2,8,4,7} {2,8,4,0} {2,0,6,7} {2,0,6,8} {2,0,6,4} {2,0,7,6} {2,0,7,8} {2,0,7,4} {2,0,8,6} {2,0,8,7} {2,0,8,4} {2,0,4,6} {2,0,4,7} {2,0,4,8} {2,4,6,7} {2,4,6,8} {2,4,6,0} {2,4,7,6} {2,4,7,8} {2,4,7,0} {2,4,8,6} {2,4,8,7} {2,4,8,0} {2,4,0,6} {2,4,0,7} {2,4,0,8} {8,6,7,2} {8,6,7,0} {8,6,7,4} {8,6,2,7} {8,6,2,0} {8,6,2,4} {8,6,0,7} {8,6,0,2} {8,6,0,4} {8,6,4,7} {8,6,4,2} {8,6,4,0} {8,7,6,2} {8,7,6,0} {8,7,6,4} {8,7,2,6} {8,7,2,0} {8,7,2,4} {8,7,0,6} {8,7,0,2} {8,7,0,4} {8,7,4,6} {8,7,4,2} {8,7,4,0} {8,2,6,7} {8,2,6,0} {8,2,6,4} {8,2,7,6} {8,2,7,0} {8,2,7,4} {8,2,0,6} {8,2,0,7} {8,2,0,4} {8,2,4,6} {8,2,4,7} {8,2,4,0} {8,0,6,7} {8,0,6,2} {8,0,6,4} {8,0,7,6} {8,0,7,2} {8,0,7,4} {8,0,2,6} {8,0,2,7} {8,0,2,4} {8,0,4,6} {8,0,4,7} {8,0,4,2} {8,4,6,7} {8,4,6,2} {8,4,6,0} {8,4,7,6} {8,4,7,2} {8,4,7,0} {8,4,2,6} {8,4,2,7} {8,4,2,0} {8,4,0,6} {8,4,0,7} {8,4,0,2} {0,6,7,2} {0,6,7,8} {0,6,7,4} {0,6,2,7} {0,6,2,8} {0,6,2,4} {0,6,8,7} {0,6,8,2} {0,6,8,4} {0,6,4,7} {0,6,4,2} {0,6,4,8} {0,7,6,2} {0,7,6,8} {0,7,6,4} {0,7,2,6} {0,7,2,8} {0,7,2,4} {0,7,8,6} {0,7,8,2} {0,7,8,4} {0,7,4,6} {0,7,4,2} {0,7,4,8} {0,2,6,7} {0,2,6,8} {0,2,6,4} {0,2,7,6} {0,2,7,8} {0,2,7,4} {0,2,8,6} {0,2,8,7} {0,2,8,4} {0,2,4,6} {0,2,4,7} {0,2,4,8} {0,8,6,7} {0,8,6,2} {0,8,6,4} {0,8,7,6} {0,8,7,2} {0,8,7,4} {0,8,2,6} {0,8,2,7} {0,8,2,4} {0,8,4,6} {0,8,4,7} {0,8,4,2} {0,4,6,7} {0,4,6,2} {0,4,6,8} {0,4,7,6} {0,4,7,2} {0,4,7,8} {0,4,2,6} {0,4,2,7} {0,4,2,8} {0,4,8,6} {0,4,8,7} {0,4,8,2} {4,6,7,2} {4,6,7,8} {4,6,7,0} {4,6,2,7} {4,6,2,8} {4,6,2,0} {4,6,8,7} {4,6,8,2} {4,6,8,0} {4,6,0,7} {4,6,0,2} {4,6,0,8} {4,7,6,2} {4,7,6,8} {4,7,6,0} {4,7,2,6} {4,7,2,8} {4,7,2,0} {4,7,8,6} {4,7,8,2} {4,7,8,0} {4,7,0,6} {4,7,0,2} {4,7,0,8} {4,2,6,7} {4,2,6,8} {4,2,6,0} {4,2,7,6} {4,2,7,8} {4,2,7,0} {4,2,8,6} {4,2,8,7} {4,2,8,0} {4,2,0,6} {4,2,0,7} {4,2,0,8} {4,8,6,7} {4,8,6,2} {4,8,6,0} {4,8,7,6} {4,8,7,2} {4,8,7,0} {4,8,2,6} {4,8,2,7} {4,8,2,0} {4,8,0,6} {4,8,0,7} {4,8,0,2} {4,0,6,7} {4,0,6,2} {4,0,6,8} {4,0,7,6} {4,0,7,2} {4,0,7,8} {4,0,2,6} {4,0,2,7} {4,0,2,8} {4,0,8,6} {4,0,8,7} {4,0,8,2}

                              Lets see how many  str8 hits within 10 draws(still below the threshold of prize tag).

                              adobea78

                              Here are the results for 08-06-16 my eve game.  I will try and post the results for 10 draws

                              RL

                              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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