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bgonçalves
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Posted: August 10, 2016, 7:20 am - IP Logged

Congratulations. phelps the largest 21 gold medals in 2016 RIO Lottobux, now the volleyball selection of very good canada!

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    I think Phelps is amazing and maybe part dolphin.  I also watched the final-5 do their thing, the wife is a big

    fan of gymnastics and watches every performance.  Those little gals are cute as buttons and tough as nails.

    RL

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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      Posted: August 10, 2016, 3:03 pm - IP Logged

      adobea78

      I am working on several options trying to see what does the the best overall.  I ran a backtest on the lines you posted

      for both box and straight hits.  The midday results were best but the straights were a bit on the low side.  I averaged

      the payouts for box hits to get a rough idea what the payouts would have been.  Anyway here is a pic of the results. The

      totals are for the evening draw but the midday done far better.  For the box calculations I added the 5 straight hits to the

      box totals.  If you calculate the Midday results the winnings are not bad.  I will post the data for the 10 games starting 

      from the date you posted the lines to see how a 10-game play would have done.

      RL

      P.S. this back-test used the last 250 games for both midday and evening games.  Midday results are to the right and don't 

      show the winnings.

      What software are you using ?

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        I write my own, my newest is called CF-251.  It's a multi game-engine cross-platform filtering system.

        It  capable of playing any lotto game including Keno.  It has 4 wheeling systems and 4 game engines

        and the results from one can be passed to the next.  I have not decided If I will ever release it to the

        general public but if I do it will be freeware.  CF-251 also includes over 30 analysis tools, calculators

        etc.. that can take the user into the deepest realms of lottery analysis.  Everything is interfaced so it's

        point and click from start to finish.  Kind of like having 10 full lottery systems rolled into one. 

        Pic

        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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          Posted: August 10, 2016, 4:08 pm - IP Logged

          P.S.

          There are many good systems out there and most have a few settings that are fairly easy to hit game to game but

          to reduce to a average play budget one has to take greater risk which is where most fail.  It's not really the system

          that fails it's that the odds are just too great for any one method.  What I did was put together a number of my old

          systems that each have a different game core.  Lets say I feel good about my settings in the first game engine but

          the run produces 100K lines.  In the past I had to go back in and make more choices to reduce.  In the first or second

          stage I would manage to trap the grand prize only to loose it trying to reach my play budget.  With this program I no

          longer have to keep going back to reduce to my play budget I just move to the next game engine.  Each game core

          is based on a totally different data-set and due to being able to use the output of one as the input for the next it's

          like starting over with a much smaller matrix.  By the time I reach the forth game engine setting only the values that

          are easy to hit I am sometimes down to less than 10 lines.  Each game core is fully capable of reducing to a single

          line but the odds of doing this are very tough.   For my 5-39 I like to start with the speed wheel and wheel 30 numbers

          which gives me 142,508 lines.  Even if the 30 are selected at random It gives 1 in 4 odds for the winning set being in

          the lines generated but I have found that in test play it closer to 50/50.  The first game engine can reduce the 142.506

          to less than 10K with little to no effort.   The second game engine reduces those to less than 1K and the third to less

          than 100.  It's at this point where the reduction gets a little harder as many of the lines share many attributes which

          makes it harder to zero in.   It's not perfect but it's the best program I have ever written and I have been writing lotto

          stuff for over 25 years.  When I use this on the daily games I am down to a couple lines after a few clicks.  Here is a

          pick of the speed-wheel I like to start with for JP games.  The numbers in the list are generated at random and the

          database is current so I will check to see if all 5 numbers are in the list after the drawing tonight.  I say it's a 50/50

          chance based on past attempts.

          RL

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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            Posted: August 10, 2016, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

            Pic of Keno option, not had a chance to test it against live play yet but it's ready when I find the time.

            RL

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

              US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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              Posted: August 10, 2016, 4:17 pm - IP Logged

              what you have done since your video looks amazing. great job.

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                Posted: August 10, 2016, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

                Here is a pick of speed-wheel I like to start for JP games. The numbers in the list are generated at random and the database is current so I will check to see if all 5 numbers are in the list after the drawing tonight.  I say it's a 50/50 chance based on past attempts.

                 

                WOW just WOW

                Just do it......

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                  Posted: August 10, 2016, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

                  Pic of Keno option, not had a chance to test it against live play yet but it's ready when I find the time.

                  RL

                  My Favorite Game Is Keno.

                  Up Here It's A 10/20/70 Game.

                  This Would Definitely Be On My Wish List For Xmas If You Do Decide To Release It. Big Smile

                  It Surely Looks Like An Awesome Program.

                                         

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                    Posted: August 10, 2016, 8:40 pm - IP Logged

                    My Favorite Game Is Keno.

                    Up Here It's A 10/20/70 Game.

                    This Would Definitely Be On My Wish List For Xmas If You Do Decide To Release It. Big Smile

                    It Surely Looks Like An Awesome Program.

                    My Favorite Game Is Keno. I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!

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                      Posted: August 10, 2016, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

                      My secret for Win4 is that 90% of the time, you will see 2 of the digits that appear in the midday drawing appear also in the evening drawing. That's why some people say it's easier to play evening. NY midday 7677, NY evening 7075. It's true. That's definitely a trick to Win4 here in New York.

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                        Posted: August 10, 2016, 9:01 pm - IP Logged

                        My secret for Win4 is that 90% of the time, you will see 2 of the digits that appear in the midday drawing appear also in the evening drawing. That's why some people say it's easier to play evening. NY midday 7677, NY evening 7075. It's true. That's definitely a trick to Win4 here in New York.

                        That's the truth.. I used to only play evening draws before I came up with a strategy

                        Creativity..

                        " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                        Million dollar operation 

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                          Posted: August 10, 2016, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

                          Is the 90% factual or just an estimate.  Some of the stats released for these games I find hard to believe

                          and two digits repeating is not enough to win on a regular basis unless you know the exact two digits that

                          are going to hit and if playing straight we also need to know the exact positions.

                          Again lets say that we think the next draw will be a 12-way and we somehow know the 3 digits that will show.

                          Wheeling 3 digits in a p-4 will produce 81 lines from which we still need to reduce to a playable amount and if

                          shooting for a straight hit we need all the analysis / data we can find.  I don't doubt that playing this way will

                          win more often and if chance falls in your corner then maybe make a good profit.   Three or so years back I

                          released a software built around the same principles which allows the user to track several other important

                          stats that one could use to trim the totals sets down to a playable amount.  Winsum reposted the software a

                          year or so back but I have no idea how many downloaded it.  While I don't combine draws in my play I think

                          winsum provided combined draw histories when he reposted it and in the few games I tracked the 2 digit repeats

                          ran around 30% to 40%.

                          Digit repeats in a P-4 are a result of the matrix and their hit rates can be calculated using matrix math.  I think

                          moneymike is on to something but knowing the odds will help in the long run.  I always calculate the odds so

                          that I know what the real stats are.  Sometimes a value will go hot and stay that way for several games.  If

                          however I don't know the real odds then my assumptions could be incorrect.  One only needs to analyze the

                          digits that showed in the last game but that's not enough IMHO.  Picking the other two can be a real choir.  Let's

                          say the last game was a 6-way, how often do 2 digits repeat after a 6-way vs a 24 way draw?   The game is

                          sufficiently random to thwart our best analysis but not all the time.  My P-4 evening game averages a 2 digit

                          repeat around 1 in 3.26 draws and a 2 digit positional repeat average is  1 in 27.03 games.   A non-repeat 

                          digit draw shows on average of 1 in 1.53 games or around 65% of all games.  A good analysis can help decide

                          which method to play, 0, 1 or 2 repeating digits.   

                          RL

                          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                            My Favorite Game Is Keno.

                            Up Here It's A 10/20/70 Game.

                            This Would Definitely Be On My Wish List For Xmas If You Do Decide To Release It. Big Smile

                            It Surely Looks Like An Awesome Program.

                            The decision to release or not release is based on rather or not I could find the time.  Most don't understand the

                            time it would require as I would first have to build maybe hundreds of databases.  Next it would require writing a

                            50 to 60 page manual.  Then posting it would mean that I have to answer maybe 1000s of questions.   I would be

                            overwhelmed with request to add this or that.  Fight off the trolls, help with install or incompatibility issues, asked

                            to build linix and apple versions etc, etc, etc....  Long story short every free minute of my free time for months and

                            months would be ate up.   In the past some softwares I released cut into time that was set aside for other projects

                            which cost me plenty.  Along with all this I have out of pocket expenses such as bandwidth.  I need my own website

                            but that would take more time I already don't have.

                            I sleep less then 4 hours a day and some days I am lucky to get half that.  It's just me on this end although winsum

                            and others have helped in the past it still requires a lot on my part.   Maybe over the next several months I can put

                            everything together but right now it's not going to happen.

                            RL

                            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                              US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                              The decision to release or not release is based on rather or not I could find the time.  Most don't understand the

                              time it would require as I would first have to build maybe hundreds of databases.  Next it would require writing a

                              50 to 60 page manual.  Then posting it would mean that I have to answer maybe 1000s of questions.   I would be

                              overwhelmed with request to add this or that.  Fight off the trolls, help with install or incompatibility issues, asked

                              to build linix and apple versions etc, etc, etc....  Long story short every free minute of my free time for months and

                              months would be ate up.   In the past some softwares I released cut into time that was set aside for other projects

                              which cost me plenty.  Along with all this I have out of pocket expenses such as bandwidth.  I need my own website

                              but that would take more time I already don't have.

                              I sleep less then 4 hours a day and some days I am lucky to get half that.  It's just me on this end although winsum

                              and others have helped in the past it still requires a lot on my part.   Maybe over the next several months I can put

                              everything together but right now it's not going to happen.

                              RL

                              Hi RL! We are willing to wait, take your time! Just test it and re-test it, so it will be the awesome-st and ultimate software ever! Thanks a lot!

                              Go Broncos!  White Bounce