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hi, i have some experience to make such programs, if we can establish rules and filters, etc, i have full up to date updatable every draw table, we can apply rules and see predictions for next draw(s), even to work with web browser to make it most compatible over different platforms, (post link will require moderator permission of this forum permission, of course, its not for profit, but for lottery community players benefits), but we have to establish conditions in words, "take those numbers, apply those filters...", i can do it.
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hi, i have
keno4 database of all 4's 70x69x68x67 / 4x3x2x1 = 916895 records with hit=0
in cycle from first record to last record in keno results database - take 20 winning numbers, build all possible 4-numbers combos from 20 - 20x19x18x17 / 4x3x2x1 = 4845, then update each hit +1 in keno4, and so on.
someone forgot to update the machine or something.
I'm glad to see 17 people got it thought.
i just checked my tickets weren't even close.
I just went back and checked my notes. The numbers I chose as being the best for the Jan 19 (mid-day) draw were 11 14 41 48 65 66 67 68 69. I did not play them because seeing so many consecutive 60's made me second guess myself.
Instead I wheeled them with some of my 2nd best numbers (which did include 18 27 28 34 44 60 61 and 63) and I played 8 lines. And I deliberately separated all those 60's numbers and spread them across the 8 lines. So I won nothing, not even $2.
Perhaps if I had just left well enough alone, I might have been closer to the mark - although I was still a day too early. But I guess this is a lesson for me to learn.
Also, I know some people play their Keno numbers for 3-5 draws in a row. I've never understood that logic - I always thought it was best to calculate everything fresh for each draw. But in this case, if I had NOT re-arranged the numbers artificially, and if I had played them for 5 draws in a row instead of just for 1 draw, I might have won something.
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Quote: Originally posted by Bluegal1 on Jan 21, 2021
Look through this particular discussion and find the chart I posted. Make a copies of it, and date them, and mark off all the numbers that hit each day on different sheets, going back 10 days. Going back and moving forward, you will see which number groups to focus on.
Oh! I dont play the Canadian Keno, I play New York Pick 10 Keno daily game, but you can use this chart for any daily keno game
Bluegal1,
I've played around with your L-R chart. Well, not exactly YOUR L-R chart because we have only 70 numbers here in Ontario for our Keno, and you have 80 numbers. So your Left and Right sides balance evenly and your decades (tens groups) show up clearly - ours don't.
I've tried recreating 2 versions of your chart. The one that seems to work the best is 35 numbers on each side (5x7). It clearly alternates back and forth, 9 or 11 hits on either side, for each draw. So it shows which side will have a bit more of an advantage for the next draw.
But unfortunately, this 70-number chart does not help with last digits or with tens groups, because they are not evenly divided. However, the Gail Howard Smart Luck software has a chart for both of those needs (Chart E- Ten Game Group Count, and Chart G - Last Digit Analysis).
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Quote: Originally posted by WhatAreTheOdds on Jan 22, 2021
I just went back and checked my notes. The numbers I chose as being the best for the Jan 19 (mid-day) draw were 11 14 41 48 65 66 67 68 69. I did not play them because seeing so many consecutive 60's made me second guess myself.
Instead I wheeled them with some of my 2nd best numbers (which did include 18 27 28 34 44 60 61 and 63) and I played 8 lines. And I deliberately separated all those 60's numbers and spread them across the 8 lines. So I won nothing, not even $2.
Perhaps if I had just left well enough alone, I might have been closer to the mark - although I was still a day too early. But I guess this is a lesson for me to learn.
Also, I know some people play their Keno numbers for 3-5 draws in a row. I've never understood that logic - I always thought it was best to calculate everything fresh for each draw. But in this case, if I had NOT re-arranged the numbers artificially, and if I had played them for 5 draws in a row instead of just for 1 draw, I might have won something.
Sigh.
spent around 10 bucks on last night draw a lot of 4 and 5 spots.
came out empty-handed. The Lady that was in front of me had close to 100$ worth of tickets. but she also won a couple of 50$ prizes.
Keno takes time.
I use a lot of trailing numbers and last digit analysis to come up with my numbers.
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Quote: Originally posted by captianbean on Jan 22, 2021
spent around 10 bucks on last night draw a lot of 4 and 5 spots.
came out empty-handed. The Lady that was in front of me had close to 100$ worth of tickets. but she also won a couple of 50$ prizes.
Keno takes time.
I use a lot of trailing numbers and last digit analysis to come up with my numbers.
always miss by 1
CaptianBean,
I was using Trailing Numbers for my jackpot games, but it wasn't very helpful. And I have not tried Trailing Numbers for Keno, because there are so many numbers. I didn't know if it would be meaningful.
Do you use the Trailing Numbers for the overall draw, or do you use the top few Trailing Numbers for each of the 20 winning numbers (cause I know for my jackpot games, doing it the latter way gave me slightly better results)?
I've never managed to win even $2 on Keno - obviously what I am doing is not working :) So maybe I'll give Trailing Numbers a try. At some point I'm hoping something will work.
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Quote: Originally posted by WhatAreTheOdds on Jan 22, 2021
CaptianBean,
I was using Trailing Numbers for my jackpot games, but it wasn't very helpful. And I have not tried Trailing Numbers for Keno, because there are so many numbers. I didn't know if it would be meaningful.
Do you use the Trailing Numbers for the overall draw, or do you use the top few Trailing Numbers for each of the 20 winning numbers (cause I know for my jackpot games, doing it the latter way gave me slightly better results)?
I've never managed to win even $2 on Keno - obviously what I am doing is not working :) So maybe I'll give Trailing Numbers a try. At some point I'm hoping something will work.
Thanks for the insight.
i look at trailing numbers for the maximum allowable range, then I use last digit analysis to create sets of 4 or 5 numbers.
how many spots do you usually play?
most of the time i have to go back to Lottobuxs post on gails software and reread it.
i tried trailing numbers for lotto max on Tuesday, only got a free play. mind you, it is expensive to play lotto max. i got one ticket.
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Quote: Originally posted by captianbean on Jan 22, 2021
i look at trailing numbers for the maximum allowable range, then I use last digit analysis to create sets of 4 or 5 numbers.
how many spots do you usually play?
most of the time i have to go back to Lottobuxs post on gails software and reread it.
i tried trailing numbers for lotto max on Tuesday, only got a free play. mind you, it is expensive to play lotto max. i got one ticket.
might repeat that same ticket tonight idk.
Mmmmmm, thanks for that reminder that we've got Lotto Max tonight. I should get off my diddling around with Keno right now and start putting together some numbers for Lotto Max tonight. I do so much better with the jackpot games. I usually win free tickets, and $10 and $20 here and there.
I try to stay within $10 when I play anything, but that is hard to do with Lotto Max (so I don't play it as often). My plan was to perfect my game-playing strategy with Lottario and Ontario/49 (which are only $1/line), and then use my strategy with 6/49 and Lotto Max once that strategy gets perfected.
I think one of the secrets to winning is wheeling. It's too expensive to wheel Lotto Max if you are not sure of your numbers, but it can be cheaply done with Lottario or ON/49, even while you are still developing your "technique".
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Quote: Originally posted by WhatAreTheOdds on Jan 22, 2021
Mmmmmm, thanks for that reminder that we've got Lotto Max tonight. I should get off my diddling around with Keno right now and start putting together some numbers for Lotto Max tonight. I do so much better with the jackpot games. I usually win free tickets, and $10 and $20 here and there.
I try to stay within $10 when I play anything, but that is hard to do with Lotto Max (so I don't play it as often). My plan was to perfect my game-playing strategy with Lottario and Ontario/49 (which are only $1/line), and then use my strategy with 6/49 and Lotto Max once that strategy gets perfected.
I think one of the secrets to winning is wheeling. It's too expensive to wheel Lotto Max if you are not sure of your numbers, but it can be cheaply done with Lottario or ON/49, even while you are still developing your "technique".
wheeling for lottario would work best i would say from a value point.
I usually just look at the quick states and go off that tbh, 10 bucks, 4 bucks and a lot of free plays for me. hahaha
best of luck with max ( I only it when it hits 50 million, no more than 10 bucks per play )
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Quote: Originally posted by captianbean on Jan 22, 2021
wheeling for lottario would work best i would say from a value point.
I usually just look at the quick states and go off that tbh, 10 bucks, 4 bucks and a lot of free plays for me. hahaha
best of luck with max ( I only it when it hits 50 million, no more than 10 bucks per play )
Yes, and good luck to you too tonight, CaptianBean. Even if you don't win the jackpot, there are also 6 MaxMillions in the pot. I'm sure most of us would settle for one of those :)
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Quote: Originally posted by WhatAreTheOdds on Jan 22, 2021
Yes, and good luck to you too tonight, CaptianBean. Even if you don't win the jackpot, there are also 6 MaxMillions in the pot. I'm sure most of us would settle for one of those :)
lol i was not even close with my lotto max ticket! hope you had some luck