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If invented a system that worked, would you share or use it yourself?

Share it (sell it) [ 63 ]  [53.85%]
Keep it to myself [ 54 ]  [46.15%]
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Posted: September 15, 2003, 3:14 am - IP Logged

who all going to play the same number in one state? 1,000 10,000 let alone millions! That's like woring about paying taxes b/4 you win!

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: September 15, 2003, 9:02 am - IP Logged
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      thomsol's avatar - speedykat
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      Posted: September 15, 2003, 9:58 am - IP Logged

      RJOh,

      I do believe my definition was a bit more confining, and by my definition, many systems (at least the ones that I've seen) DON'T work, or at least cannot be proven to work.

      As far as making more selling it than using it...  Both remain to be seen.

      Remember some wishes are more important than others.... http://www.wish.org

        I M Trying's avatar - bob

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        Posted: September 15, 2003, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

        thomsol

        The Mega Million drawing is tomorrow night.  There is plenty of time for you to post a number that your software produces.  Would you consider doing this?  Just one line..a one dollar ticket.  If you produce just three numbers, I will buy your program.

        Thanks

          thomsol's avatar - speedykat
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          Posted: September 15, 2003, 1:28 pm - IP Logged

          I M,

          I would need to stress that SimuLotto is designed based on the laws of large numbers, and that ANY individual drawing is unpredictable.  Unlike a certain member of this community, I do not claim that I can predict 3 out of 6 balls consistently, only that using my product can improve your odds of winning, particularly over the long-haul.

          That being said....  If I were in a state that had Mega Millions, my first ticket would be:

          14,15,30,39,46 Mega 20

          Jim

          Remember some wishes are more important than others.... http://www.wish.org

            I M Trying's avatar - bob

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            Posted: September 15, 2003, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

            thomsol

            Thanks for posting.  My state will join Mega Million this fall.  Reguarding improving the odds.....the only way to  verify this is to win some money, and in the long haul we'll all be dead.

            Thanks

              RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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              Posted: September 15, 2003, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

              To I M Trying,

              If you track your win/loss ratio, you should notice a change if your odds improve.  In MegaMillions the over all odds of winning any prize is 1/43, that $4 or better for every $100 of tickets.  You can expect to do that even with QP's, if you are using software that is suppose to help you, then you should expect to do better.  Even if your odds improve and you don't win a second prize or a jackpot, you will still spend more than you win if you play any length of time. 

              RJOh

                thomsol's avatar - speedykat
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                Posted: September 15, 2003, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

                Thanks RJ, that's the point I was trying to make (you said it better than I could).

                The fact is, the odds of my winning PowerBall are worse than my odds of J. Lo deciding that she wants me instead of Ben Affleck (if anyone know J. Lo, tell her she's free to disprove this theory).

                But it is a dream... and any means that I can use to improve my chances of attaining that dream are worth pursuing.  And along the way, if I can reduce my costs of pursuing that dream, that's worthwhile too.  This is exactly why I put the odds of winning using my program on the screen (I don't know of anyone else doing that).  So you can SEE if it works or not.

                Jim

                Remember some wishes are more important than others.... http://www.wish.org

                  I M Trying's avatar - bob

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                  Posted: September 15, 2003, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

                  rjoh

                  That was exactly my point.  If you are using software, it is supposed to help you win.  If you don't win, you may as well play a quick pick.  There is no proof that any software program reduces the odds...only claims by the vendor, or programmer.  I hope thomsol has unlimited sucess with his program, and if it's good I'll buy it.

                  Good luck

                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    Posted: September 16, 2003, 10:26 am - IP Logged

                    To I M Trying,

                    The point I was trying to make was, anyone claiming to have software that would improve your odds of winning could post a series of numbers over a period of time and compare their actual winnings with the normal odds of winning. For example the odds of winning in MegaMillions are:

                    MATCH              ODDS          WIN     
                    4/52 + 0/52    1/11272    $150
                    3/52 + 1/52    1/12502    $150
                    2/52 + 1/52    1/834        $10
                    3/52 + 0/52    1/245        $7
                    1/52 + 1/52    1/152        $3
                    0/52 + 1/52    1/88          $2
                    Overall odds of winning a prize 1/43

                    If 50 numbers per draws were posted for 6 draws and more than 14 prizes ($28+) were won, the overall odds would be beaten by 2, the improved odds would be 1/22. If those prizes included four $3 wins or three $7 wins, those odds would also be beaten by 2. The question is,if with better odds you could win $50-$100 with $300 of tickets,would you think the software worth buying because you would still be down by $200+ unless you came closer to winning the jackpot. LottoCheatha is the only one that ever posted that many numbers at this forum and the results were worst than expected. No other programmer since has ever  tried to prove their claims that way.

                    RJOh   

                      thomsol's avatar - speedykat
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                      Posted: September 17, 2003, 1:47 pm - IP Logged

                      To I M Trying

                      The Mega Million drawing was last night, the winning numbers were:

                      15-20-24-30-46 42

                      Per my post, my pics from SimuLotto were:

                      14-15-30-39-46 20

                      Looks like 3 were right (15,30,46)...

                      You can purchase SimuLotto from http://www.simulotto.com Per your previous post:

                      thomsol

                      The Mega Million drawing is tomorrow night.  There is plenty of time for you to post a number that your software produces.  Would you consider doing this?  Just one line..a one dollar ticket.  If you produce just three numbers, I will buy your program.

                      Thanks

                      Remember some wishes are more important than others.... http://www.wish.org

                        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                        Posted: September 17, 2003, 1:58 pm - IP Logged

                        Congratulations Thomsol,

                        Looks like you might have earned a sale.

                        RJOh

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                          Posted: September 17, 2003, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

                          Quote: Originally posted by thomsol on September 15, 2003

                          The fact is, the odds of my winning PowerBall are worse than my odds of J. Lo deciding that she wants me instead of Ben Affleck (if anyone know J. Lo, tell her she's free to disprove this theory).






                          well looks like you hit the jackpot. here's your chance.

                          the "don low" on j-lo is that she is back to shopping around.  seems she read your plea at LP and decided to give you a shot. the girl is never content and will end up using you for your money anyway.  you might as well dump her before she dumps you.  can you imagine how much money you can make in the tabloids as being "THE MAN" that dumped j-lo?

                          she's a gold-digger and an opportunist. ditch her and find a new "wish-list" girl.

                           

                          tunnelvisioncanmakeamangocrazy

                           

                                      "i am .........."meant to"       

                          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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                            Posted: September 18, 2003, 4:52 am - IP Logged

                            Hey VISIONDUDE who's J-LO's next victim? George Clooney,

                            The Rock,a Rapper,a Rocker or a Regular Guy?

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                              Posted: September 18, 2003, 6:56 am - IP Logged

                              Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on September 18, 2003



                              Hey VISIONDUDE who's J-LO's next victim? George Clooney,
                              The Rock,a Rapper,a Rocker or a Regular Guy?





                              whoever will further her career. she's not picky.  just a means to an end so that makes it hard to "predict".

                              if i were her publicist, i'd  say jack nicholson.  that would create a huge amount of publicity.  anybody and everyone is game.  who knows the "breakup" could  be a publicity stunt.  either way even if they do get married, it won't last.

                              on our poll at LP "love or money"?  she would choose the cash.

                               

                              properperceptionhelpstoclearupyourvision

                                          "i am .........."meant to"       

                              P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                       until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                                 
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