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Posted: January 17, 2004, 3:17 pm - IP Logged
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    Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on January 14, 2004



    >>>>(2) if the three men were astrologers, you can throw your copy of the bible away and live however you want.<<<

    The ancient Latin edition of Vulgate (4th century).
    Mt 2 : 1 ¶ cum ergo natus esset Iesus in Bethleem Iudaeae in diebus Herodis regis ecce magi ab oriente venerunt Hierosolymam.

    Magi=Magician.

    The greek version would be "magoi" or magician. Considering that they were following a star, it could also mean astrologers.






    eck....my computer is spitting and sputtering.  have had a hard time getting in here lately.  too sloooooooow.  my computer is about to take it's last "trip" down memory lane.  if i come up missing, it's ONLY because my puter is out.

    thomas....there is a huge gap between "was" and "could be" and you know it.  even though you don't ascribe to the bibles authority, even you know that it forbids the practice of astrology.  but for the sake of destroying the bibles credibility, you attempted to slip in the "could be".

    you know perfectly well what the wise men where and wht they weren't and you know they were neither astrologers or magicians.  you know that the greek word for "magi" could also be applied to these descriptions as well; sorcerers, teachers, kings, etc.  it has both good connotations and bad.  but that doesn't indicate that they were.  they could have been all but weighing in on what info was given on them, how God uses his people and what he has spoken out against,  they were neither astrologers nor magicians.  heck you know what God did to people who were magicians that tride to defraud Gods people.

    if you go over the text, then you can tell what they were and where not as far as the greek definition.  first of all they didn't "follow" a star. they sought wisdom from others as to what it was and where it should appear.  then king herod called for them when he had heard of the baby jesus being born and "dispatched" them to the sight.  the wisemen saw the star over jerusalem and then didn't see it again until the came to bethlehem.  God had prophesied that he would hang the star over the saviors head to verify who he was hundreds of years before the dvent.  thier "wisdom" came from God, not a "star".

    God would NEVER violate his word by using "wisemen" who practiced something contrary to his word and you know that as well.  the wisemen came bearing gifts just as scripture had foretold they would hundreds of years previously.  gold , frankensence and myrrh.

    myrrh, a curious choice considering that myrrh was used for annoting dead bodies. why would the wise men bring a "gift" that was normally used to annoint a dead body when Jesus was just a baby?  because of "who" he was and what he was going to do in the future....to die for the sins of the world. looks like God thinks of everything doesn't he?

    here's the rules of debate thomas.  if you are going to debate with me thats cool,  but don't be dishonest about it for the sake of discrediting something.  whether there is a God the way to ANY truth in life is a narrow road. that one MUST be willing to accept the facts whether they are good, bad or ugly.  even if you and i don't like certain "portions" of "a" truth,  doesn't make it a "non" truth.  please don't play the selective memory game with me.  if we are debating "a" truth,  stick to the facts and we will get there.  if you are not interested in truth,  you will do everything to circumvent it.  including purposefully leaving out "portions" of it.

    remember bethlehem ephratah?  what was the former name of bethlehem?

     20/20 (peripheral now......narrow when i need to be)

                "i am .........."meant to"       

    P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

             until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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      jorli:

      Why do you always take things the wrong way.out of contex??.every reply you post mostly is critizing someone or thing.I n essence I believe you truly like to argue/accuse/and turn good things around.

      yes lottoking and I have had past problems/ PAST do you see that ?PAST.He is no longer a thought in my mind.unless one of his followers bring him up.

      your words BADGER  were uncalled for> your words< not mine. I simply asked the person a one line sentence(how did you come up with the numbers) now that is a simple question >  NOT BADGER  YOUR WORD.so again you accuse when my question was what many ask when numbers come up.and again my post was to pick 4 master/ not you>> so mind your own business<<.my post to pick4 master was given in love. so dont try to dirty it up.

      like I said look at yourself and see who is nasty.    good luck

       

          luckycat        >>>>>>>    purr-purr--purrfect                           

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        Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:09 pm - IP Logged

        Luckycat: 

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          jorli:yes think befor YOU speak and you are the lier / I think your sick.

          you admit in above post you( just) criticize  ME  you said you have criticized me 3/4 time. yes  and also many others on the post. shall I look them up and post them?

           

          YOU are not worth the time a day,or my time /go back to your hole.

           

              luckycat        >>>>>>>    purr-purr--purrfect                           

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            Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

            thomas:

            why do you fight so much??

             

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              Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:26 pm - IP Logged
              Quote: Originally posted by luckycat on January 17, 2004



              jorli:yes think befor YOU speak and you are the lier / I think your sick.

              you admit in above post you( just) criticize  ME  you said you have criticized me 3/4 time. yes  and also many others on the post. shall I look them up and post them?

               

              YOU are not worth the time a day,or my time /go back to your hole.





              Yes Luckycat, please post for me.  I admitted that it is you and only you that I have criticized, and that is the truth.  So if you do find I did the same to another member, please post for me. 

              I won't be offended that you called me a liar, however please do as I did and post the proof.  I doubt you can do so, but go ahead give it a try.

               

              The only person on these boards that I find sick is you. You meddle and butt in, then when you are caught in your game, you whine and feign amnesia.  I will be waiting to see what you come up with. 

              As for me not being worth the time for you to defend my argument, what you really mean is you can't defend yourself.

               


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                lottoshlep:

                I never decide anyone is a christion/ or atheist. YOU have said that.

                and why are you sticking your nose in my post??? you are.

                 

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                  Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

                  Perhaps you should run up a tree and hide out for a few days.  Maybe change your screenname and come back later as someone likable.  Seems to me everyone has you pegged for the troublemaker you are.

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                    Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

                    emilyg.

                    I am suprised at your post: I thought better of you.

                     

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                      Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:35 pm - IP Logged

                      LOL

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                        So much energy expended goi

                        Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                          Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

                          jorliD

                          your face is

                           

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                            Posted: January 17, 2004, 5:39 pm - IP Logged

                            pizza anyone? i'm buy

                            ... the lottery never fails to surprise!
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                              Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

                                 
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