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Missouri Lottery gives inside view of computerized drawings

Topic closed. 31 replies. Last post 7 years ago by Dead_Aim.

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United States
Member #80857
October 5, 2009
63 Posts
Posted: April 21, 2010, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

I think most people don't play the TN Cash5 for one reason - computers.

But if you look past that there are even more reasons not to play it if you can cross over to another state and play theirs.

I go to VA to play their Pick5.

TN has 3 drawings a week (M-W-F). VA has 14 drawings a week (Twice a day, 7 days a week)

TN has 39 numbers in their game. VA has 34.

TN's odds are 1 in 575,757. VA's odds are 1 in 278,256.

TN's game only allows $1 plays. Va's game lets you play $1 or 50 cents or 25 cents.

TN only lets you play up to 12 draws. VA lets you play up to 91 draws.

TN starts at $40,000. VA starts and stays at $100,000

TN rolls but is parimutuel if there is more than one winner. VA stays at $100,000 but up to 5 winners can win that top prize without sharing.

TN's got computers - VA's got balls.

In short, VA's innovative and pro-active with their lottery. TN is dull and boring and afraid to try anything new or different.The only time they change anything it's for the worse - like going to computers.

I like VA a lot better and drive there once a month to get my Pick5's for the whole month.

Check out a neighboring state if you're close to one.

Wow that's very impressive for VA. I am going to check in on neighbor states and see if I can play a bunch of times.

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    Member #6363
    August 20, 2004
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    Posted: April 22, 2010, 7:10 pm - IP Logged

    I have to admit, the computer talk is beyond me.  But it seems like you'resuggesting that you should be able to predict the outcomes.  That's the exact opposite of what the Missouri Lottery works to achieve.  The goal is to produce secure, fair and random drawings and the system isdesigned to do just that.  The computers are secure and not connected to any networks.  A true random number generator resides with each system. The drawing process is random for each game within the parameters of that game, or an independent event.  Pre-tests and historical analysis of the outcomes are certified by independent parties as random. 

    The Chi-squared distribution test is conducted during the pre-tests to determine if the numbers drawn fall into the population of random numbers - if not, then a different machine is used.  And because the computer can work so quickly, a very large sample is tested and confirmed before the process continues. 

    All of the combinations are possible and every drawing is random.  There is no way to predict the outcome and the results speak for themselves.  That's what the mission dictates and the Missouri Lottery delivers.  The nature of this enterprise demands Lottery operations are conducted with the highest integrity.  The Missouri Lottery feels their computer system is the most efficient method of achieving fair and random drawings.

    "Secure, true random, highest integrity." Big words for a MO lottery ad, that can't show a way to prove it.

    In any event, the bottom line is, you can show me a set of balls, you can show me the blower, you can show me the button to turn it all on and operate the machine and get a result, yet, in a million years would you still never expect me to be able to select the very next outcome with all the bouncy balls, would ya? That is because it is truly random.

    Yet, you would never consider showing us the code that operates the computer system you have selecting the drawings now, why is that? Your exact words were,There is no way to predict the outcome and the results speak for themselves.". If , " a true random number generator resides with each system."  and it was truly random wouldn't you be able to show me every aspect of the computer drawing procedure and it not affect the next outcome, just like the ball procedure? But you don't or can't, why is that? Is it because if you showed us the code we may be able to emulate your program and match your true (not-so-) random generators?

    It is questions like these that make you go hmmm....Ponder (Todd, you really need an emoticon that either rubs it's chin or scratches it's head in a quandary)

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