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"Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?"

That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reinacted on TV shows.

"Me and you could make a fortune"

Why not just save time put your name over the author's?

Stack,

Sorry to burst your bubble but it didn't comes out of books. I wokred in Vegas for 15 years and on riverboat casinos for 6. It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters. And you? Tell us what casinos you worked in.

As for the $28M being put on the woman's players card, there was no $28M, thus no such entry.

You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do.

As for this from you:

$28 million added to a player's reward card is probably considered more than just "leakage" especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case. In most states the gaming rules and regulations favor the casinos about the same way lottery rules and regs favor state lotteries. Whatever the ruling won't prevent a law suit.

If you honestly still think she has a case you're no sharper than the couple with the banana peel. I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5.

Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv.

May your luck be inversely proportional to your misguided opinions.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Stack,

    Sorry to burst your bubble but it didn't comes out of books. I wokred in Vegas for 15 years and on riverboat casinos for 6. It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters. And you? Tell us what casinos you worked in.

    As for the $28M being put on the woman's players card, there was no $28M, thus no such entry.

    You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do.

    As for this from you:

    $28 million added to a player's reward card is probably considered more than just "leakage" especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case. In most states the gaming rules and regulations favor the casinos about the same way lottery rules and regs favor state lotteries. Whatever the ruling won't prevent a law suit.

    If you honestly still think she has a case you're no sharper than the couple with the banana peel. I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5.

    Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv.

    May your luck be inversely proportional to your misguided opinions.

    "Stack,..."

    I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5."

    I have a hunch you're right, CT, but Stank said he knows casinos that "have banks of penny slot machines" so that $5 probably lasts him all day, LOL.

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      rdgrnr,

      Back in the days of 25 cents craps (the chips were white) and freebie cigarettes (always off brands, usually lights) players that 'rented' a spot on the game for gours and hours for an occassioonal bet and free drinkks were known as "A stack of whites, a pack of lights, and call the waitress." The shorter version of that was "A stack, a pack, and coqtails".

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        rdgrnr,

        Back in the days of 25 cents craps (the chips were white) and freebie cigarettes (always off brands, usually lights) players that 'rented' a spot on the game for gours and hours for an occassioonal bet and free drinkks were known as "A stack of whites, a pack of lights, and call the waitress." The shorter version of that was "A stack, a pack, and coqtails".

        lol, love the lingo.

        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

        For a lead role in a cage?

         

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          Stack,

          Sorry to burst your bubble but it didn't comes out of books. I wokred in Vegas for 15 years and on riverboat casinos for 6. It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters. And you? Tell us what casinos you worked in.

          As for the $28M being put on the woman's players card, there was no $28M, thus no such entry.

          You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do.

          As for this from you:

          $28 million added to a player's reward card is probably considered more than just "leakage" especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case. In most states the gaming rules and regulations favor the casinos about the same way lottery rules and regs favor state lotteries. Whatever the ruling won't prevent a law suit.

          If you honestly still think she has a case you're no sharper than the couple with the banana peel. I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5.

          Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv.

          May your luck be inversely proportional to your misguided opinions.

          I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago. Barney Vinson wrote several gaming books including "Las Vegas Behind the Tables" part 1 and part 2.  http://vinson.casinocitytimes.com/books/ 

          "If your headed, for Vegas for the first time take this book along. It's great fun to walk into a casino with your companions and start giving them the "insiders information"."

          "Tell us what casinos you worked in."

          With all due respect, someone believes anyone can read Vinson's books and offer about the same gaming anecdotes and Vegas trivia as someone who worked in the industry for 21 years. Which casino has slot dealers, slot floor men, and slot pit bosses?

          "You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do."

          You make it sound like someone actually heard every beef and we know that can't be true. Besides you're talking about people carrying buckets of coins and coin slot machines haven't been used in years. The beef here is the woman saw the number "28" followed by several zeros scrolling across the player rewards card screen.

          "If you honestly still think she has a case"

          How does "especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case" translate into me saying I honestly think she has a case?

          "I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5."

          I never though I was blowing a $5 chip when I made a bet for the boys (and sometime girls) and I certainly didn't blow any money when I invested in casino stock. What you call "ridiculous posting" is because you can't distinguish between "if there is a chance" and "honestly believing there is a chance". Bet you thought Sheila Liebeck had "no chance" either and hers was frivolous litigation. Because of that case, anything is possible though I believe the steak dinner is her best offer Carmin will get.

          "In a situation like the one in the OP the girl calling for the supervisor was doing her job, she saw a claim coming.

          Because of your weekly experience working in casinos, I asked if it was common for casino employees to be seated next to slot players. Casino procedures vary, but it's usually a slot tech and not superiors who check malfunctions, payoff winners, and service the machines. As a craps dealer were you taught to scream "supervisor" when a slot machine malfunctioned or when a jackpot was won?

          "Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv."

          I gave you the benefit of doubt because I thought it was common knowledge hundreds of books were written with several TV shows, and some movies. Amazon has over 1600 casino gambling books. I never said you didn't experience anything, just pointed out your experiences might not be unique as you think and there are thousands of similar stories.

          "It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters."

          I agree most of your stories are interesting and probably more interesting to the people who never heard them before. I said "That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows." because I know from experience lots of similar stuff was in books and reenacted on TV shows. I found 75 casino gambling and horse racing books at a garage sale bought them all for $10. Three of the books on Craps told different versions of false teeth landing on the pass line story. 

          If you think you're stuff is interesting enough to make money writing a book, go for it. Just consider researching whether it was done before.

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            I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago. Barney Vinson wrote several gaming books including "Las Vegas Behind the Tables" part 1 and part 2.  http://vinson.casinocitytimes.com/books/ 

            "If your headed, for Vegas for the first time take this book along. It's great fun to walk into a casino with your companions and start giving them the "insiders information"."

            "Tell us what casinos you worked in."

            With all due respect, someone believes anyone can read Vinson's books and offer about the same gaming anecdotes and Vegas trivia as someone who worked in the industry for 21 years. Which casino has slot dealers, slot floor men, and slot pit bosses?

            "You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do."

            You make it sound like someone actually heard every beef and we know that can't be true. Besides you're talking about people carrying buckets of coins and coin slot machines haven't been used in years. The beef here is the woman saw the number "28" followed by several zeros scrolling across the player rewards card screen.

            "If you honestly still think she has a case"

            How does "especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case" translate into me saying I honestly think she has a case?

            "I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5."

            I never though I was blowing a $5 chip when I made a bet for the boys (and sometime girls) and I certainly didn't blow any money when I invested in casino stock. What you call "ridiculous posting" is because you can't distinguish between "if there is a chance" and "honestly believing there is a chance". Bet you thought Sheila Liebeck had "no chance" either and hers was frivolous litigation. Because of that case, anything is possible though I believe the steak dinner is her best offer Carmin will get.

            "In a situation like the one in the OP the girl calling for the supervisor was doing her job, she saw a claim coming.

            Because of your weekly experience working in casinos, I asked if it was common for casino employees to be seated next to slot players. Casino procedures vary, but it's usually a slot tech and not superiors who check malfunctions, payoff winners, and service the machines. As a craps dealer were you taught to scream "supervisor" when a slot machine malfunctioned or when a jackpot was won?

            "Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv."

            I gave you the benefit of doubt because I thought it was common knowledge hundreds of books were written with several TV shows, and some movies. Amazon has over 1600 casino gambling books. I never said you didn't experience anything, just pointed out your experiences might not be unique as you think and there are thousands of similar stories.

            "It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters."

            I agree most of your stories are interesting and probably more interesting to the people who never heard them before. I said "That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows." because I know from experience lots of similar stuff was in books and reenacted on TV shows. I found 75 casino gambling and horse racing books at a garage sale bought them all for $10. Three of the books on Craps told different versions of false teeth landing on the pass line story. 

            If you think you're stuff is interesting enough to make money writing a book, go for it. Just consider researching whether it was done before.

            You can't get along with anybody, Stank.

            Nothing's ever good enough for you.

            You're smarter than everybody.

            Nobody can say anything without you telling them how wrong they are or how redundant they are or what a liar they are or how their threads shouldn't be allowed.

            You never have anything interesting to say, so you have to run down Coin Toss's posts which everybody enjoyed just to make yourself feel better. "Look at me! I'm Stank, everybody! Look at me!" 

            What a total jerkoff you are.

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              rdgrnr,

              Back in the days of 25 cents craps (the chips were white) and freebie cigarettes (always off brands, usually lights) players that 'rented' a spot on the game for gours and hours for an occassioonal bet and free drinkks were known as "A stack of whites, a pack of lights, and call the waitress." The shorter version of that was "A stack, a pack, and coqtails".

              Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

              Yeah CT, I know another word for 'em - cheapskates.

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                Stack47,

                A friend of mine when I was in Vegas was also a very good friend of Barney Vinson. Barney's real passions was writing Westerns but he got a bunch of rejection slips so his friend told him, "Write what you know, write what you know."

                Vinson was a floorman at Caesar's Palace when he wrote his books.

                Wehn the riverboats opened in the Midwest, Stack, a lot of players thought it was really prestigious to tell us how things run in Vegas - they didn't realize most of the superivsors had come from Vegas. And they'd tell us stories like, "I went to the Golden Nugget and beat steve Wynn out of $250" - as if Steve Wynn was really on the game watching them over $250.

                You remind me of those jackoffs. You don't even understand what players who think they know more than they really know means. "Dealer, the shooter had money on the Don't and is still rolling the dice but he picked his bet up, I thought you couldn't do that."

                Now good read a book on something else Stack, and tell us your next area of expertise. Maybe a baseball book would enable you to tell Derek Jeter how to play shortstop or David Ortiz how to DH.

                Alpha Mike Foxtrot.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Stack47,

                  A friend of mine when I was in Vegas was also a very good friend of Barney Vinson. Barney's real passions was writing Westerns but he got a bunch of rejection slips so his friend told him, "Write what you know, write what you know."

                  Vinson was a floorman at Caesar's Palace when he wrote his books.

                  Wehn the riverboats opened in the Midwest, Stack, a lot of players thought it was really prestigious to tell us how things run in Vegas - they didn't realize most of the superivsors had come from Vegas. And they'd tell us stories like, "I went to the Golden Nugget and beat steve Wynn out of $250" - as if Steve Wynn was really on the game watching them over $250.

                  You remind me of those jackoffs. You don't even understand what players who think they know more than they really know means. "Dealer, the shooter had money on the Don't and is still rolling the dice but he picked his bet up, I thought you couldn't do that."

                  Now good read a book on something else Stack, and tell us your next area of expertise. Maybe a baseball book would enable you to tell Derek Jeter how to play shortstop or David Ortiz how to DH.

                  Alpha Mike Foxtrot.

                  "Wehn the riverboats opened in the Midwest, Stack, a lot of players thought it was really prestigious to tell us how things run in Vegas"

                  The same thing happened when they opened the casinos in Atlantic City. And it was no different a couple of years ago when Ohio got casinos and every place in between when a new casino opened. The majority of the dealers were just hired, schooled, had no experience, and made lots of mistakes. I heard players say "that's not how it's done in Vegas" and I heard experienced players tell that player it was done exactly the way it's done in Vegas.

                  "they didn't realize most of the superivsors had come from Vegas. And they'd tell us stories like"

                  The procedures for dealing Let it Ride varies from casino to casino so it wouldn't matter where the supervisor came from if the game was played different than that player had experienced in Vegas. Some of the gaming book authors were supervisors and probably told the same stories to their dealers.

                  "as if Steve Wynn was really on the game watching them over $250."

                  It's called table talk by the customers who contributed to your paycheck. I agree, hearing it is just as annoying to me as it is to the dealer, but I can go to another table and the dealers can't. Listening to all the BS was your conditions of employment.

                  "You don't even understand what players who think they know more than they really know means. "Dealer, the shooter had money on the Don't and is still rolling the dice but he picked his bet up, I thought you couldn't do that.

                  Sounds like you had serious issues with the players and finally realized you were in the wrong profession. On the scale of things, what possible difference did that player's ignorance make?

                  I must have really hit a nerve when I mentioned there are hundreds of books with SIMILAR casino gambling stories, but it doesn't mean you can't write a book with your personal stories and become a best seller.

                  "Now good read a book on something else Stack, and tell us your next area of expertise."

                  From a review of Barney Vinson's "Las Vegas, Behind the Tables:

                  "If your headed, for Vegas for the first time take this book along. It's great fun to walk into a casino with your companions and start giving them the "insiders information"."

                  You're the one giving your expertise by saying you were a dealer in Vegas for 16 years. You made a point about a probable BS story about Steve Wynn, but expect the readers to believe your story about being a friend of friend of Barney Vinson. You even added details it was your friend who convinced Barney to write casinos related books.

                  I've read lots of books about casino and other forms of gambling, but I'm not the one claiming they have more "insider information" than anyone who read Vinson's book because they (you) were a dealer. Several of the books have glossaries with the same jargon you have used.

                  I'm not doubting you have experience behind Las Vegas and riverboat gaming tables, but just pointing out there are hundreds of books with similar experiences and stories already written.

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                    You can't get along with anybody, Stank.

                    Nothing's ever good enough for you.

                    You're smarter than everybody.

                    Nobody can say anything without you telling them how wrong they are or how redundant they are or what a liar they are or how their threads shouldn't be allowed.

                    You never have anything interesting to say, so you have to run down Coin Toss's posts which everybody enjoyed just to make yourself feel better. "Look at me! I'm Stank, everybody! Look at me!" 

                    What a total jerkoff you are.

                    Here's what got Coin Toss fired up and as usual you started it and will continue to stir the pot:

                    "Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?"

                    That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows.

                    "Me and you could make a fortune"

                    Why not just save time put your name over the author's?

                    With your knowledge of lottery games and gambling in general, I wouldn't expect you to know "that kinda stuff" is in hundreds of gambling books and used on several TV shows. And I wouldn't expect you to know the lingo Coin uses comes straight out of several of those books.

                    "Nobody can say anything without you telling them how wrong they are or how redundant they are or what a liar they are"

                    Show me where I called Coin Toss a liar, Fatty.

                    I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago.

                    It's a fact that even Coin acknowledged when he said a friend of his encouraged Barney Vinson to write a book. Quoting a review that basically says anyone can pretend to be a Vegas insider is not calling Coin a liar or discrediting him at all especially when Coin heard about the book before it was published.

                    "or how their threads shouldn't be allowed."

                    If you show where I said those redundant threads shouldn't be allowed, I show you the forum rules and you can debate them with managment.

                    "You never have anything interesting to say, so you have to run down Coin Toss's posts"

                    Another lying spin on the truth. Coin never said which stories were his and which stories he heard so it's impossible for me to "run down" his posts.

                    "Coin Toss's posts which everybody enjoyed

                    The authors of the hundreds of gambling books thought everyone would enjoy their stories too. Is that why you told Coin:

                    "Me and you could make a fortune"

                    Putting the "me" before the "you" proves who is really planning on making a fortune.

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                      Stack47,

                      You are very reminiscent of a karate student with threee months in who took a few classes, read a book, and got his arse kicked out on the streets.

                      You say,

                      "Sounds like you had serious issues with the players and finally realized you were in the wrong profession. On the scale of things, what possible difference did that player's ignorance make?"

                      How interesting that you would use the Hillary Benghazi defense. "What possbile difference". Well i guess in all those books you've read about Vegas none off them ever told you that such players slow the game down which irritates the heck out of the bosses and brings heat on the game. Not to mention it runs off good players. Nobody wants to have 1 large on the Pass Line and odds and have the game interrupted by some moron who read something in a book and want to know why he didn't get paid four rolls ago. Did any of your books tell you the biggest action is on the graveyard shift becsause the real gamblers don't want to put up with such imbeciles?

                      When they open casinos outside of Nevada Stack they man them with experienced people, set up a dealer's school because they are there to provide some of the locals with jobs (and make millions). Here's something else your books peobably never told you. Native American casinos hire a certain amount of pale faces to get up and running. Once they get some experience under their belt they fire most of the pale faces I (reduction in force) to hire more Nativ e Americans but they keep a token amount of pale faces on the payroll because a lot of the native staff disappear on payday and for a few days after. That's just the way it is. When they're going to open a casino they place want ads for casino personnel and those ads end with "We are a Native American preference employer."

                      No offense to any Native Americans here, but like I said, that's just the way it is. A tribe in Minnesota with a casino pays each tribal member about $4,000 a month 'gratis' out of the profits. The Hopis in Arizona didn't want any part of casinos because it goes against their beliefs.

                      I'll wrap up your attitude with one story, Stack. This feller from Kaintuck had dun read a whole lotta books about WW II. He met this eldcerly guy and they got to talking and the guy who had read all those books was telling the elderly gent how it was in the concentration camps. He went on and on and on and the other fellow got tired of it and said, "You don't know what you're talking sabout mister", and got up to walk away. It was then that the book larnd hillwilliam noticed the number tattooed on the elderly gent's forearm.

                      There's obvious no point in talking to you anymore Stack so have a nice life.

                      AMF

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                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Here's what got Coin Toss fired up and as usual you started it and will continue to stir the pot:

                        "Have ya got enough of that kinda stuff for a book?"

                        That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows.

                        "Me and you could make a fortune"

                        Why not just save time put your name over the author's?

                        With your knowledge of lottery games and gambling in general, I wouldn't expect you to know "that kinda stuff" is in hundreds of gambling books and used on several TV shows. And I wouldn't expect you to know the lingo Coin uses comes straight out of several of those books.

                        "Nobody can say anything without you telling them how wrong they are or how redundant they are or what a liar they are"

                        Show me where I called Coin Toss a liar, Fatty.

                        I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago.

                        It's a fact that even Coin acknowledged when he said a friend of his encouraged Barney Vinson to write a book. Quoting a review that basically says anyone can pretend to be a Vegas insider is not calling Coin a liar or discrediting him at all especially when Coin heard about the book before it was published.

                        "or how their threads shouldn't be allowed."

                        If you show where I said those redundant threads shouldn't be allowed, I show you the forum rules and you can debate them with managment.

                        "You never have anything interesting to say, so you have to run down Coin Toss's posts"

                        Another lying spin on the truth. Coin never said which stories were his and which stories he heard so it's impossible for me to "run down" his posts.

                        "Coin Toss's posts which everybody enjoyed

                        The authors of the hundreds of gambling books thought everyone would enjoy their stories too. Is that why you told Coin:

                        "Me and you could make a fortune"

                        Putting the "me" before the "you" proves who is really planning on making a fortune.

                        I said ---> "Me and you (Coin Toss) could make a fortune"

                        Then you said--->  "Putting the "me" before the "you" proves who is really planning on making a fortune."

                        I'm glad you closed your diatribe of drivel with that little gem Stanky, because it saves me a lot of time responding to an obnoxious, obtuse lamebrain like you.

                        Like all lib jerkoffs such as yourself, you have absolutely zero sense of humor.

                        You're about as interesting and funny and fun to be around as one of your heroes, Harry Reid.

                        I bet you even look like him.

                        So snuggle up right here, Stank47.

                        I'll hold your hair to steady your head.

                        OK, are ya ready, son?

                        Pffffffffffffttttttttttttt!!!

                        How'd ya like that, numbnuts?  LOL

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                          Posted: February 19, 2014, 11:00 pm - IP Logged

                          I'm not doubting you worked at some capacity in casinos and/or riverboats and saw lots of interesting stuff, but I'm saying others saw and heard similar stuff and published gaming books years ago. Barney Vinson wrote several gaming books including "Las Vegas Behind the Tables" part 1 and part 2.  http://vinson.casinocitytimes.com/books/ 

                          "If your headed, for Vegas for the first time take this book along. It's great fun to walk into a casino with your companions and start giving them the "insiders information"."

                          "Tell us what casinos you worked in."

                          With all due respect, someone believes anyone can read Vinson's books and offer about the same gaming anecdotes and Vegas trivia as someone who worked in the industry for 21 years. Which casino has slot dealers, slot floor men, and slot pit bosses?

                          "You have no idea how many beefs casino people have with people who think they know a whole lot more than they actually do."

                          You make it sound like someone actually heard every beef and we know that can't be true. Besides you're talking about people carrying buckets of coins and coin slot machines haven't been used in years. The beef here is the woman saw the number "28" followed by several zeros scrolling across the player rewards card screen.

                          "If you honestly still think she has a case"

                          How does "especially if there is a chance the player has a legitimate case" translate into me saying I honestly think she has a case?

                          "I have a hunch that one day you blew $5 or so in a casino and these kind of ridiculous postings of yours regarding casinos is you're attempt to get back at them for 'taking' your $5."

                          I never though I was blowing a $5 chip when I made a bet for the boys (and sometime girls) and I certainly didn't blow any money when I invested in casino stock. What you call "ridiculous posting" is because you can't distinguish between "if there is a chance" and "honestly believing there is a chance". Bet you thought Sheila Liebeck had "no chance" either and hers was frivolous litigation. Because of that case, anything is possible though I believe the steak dinner is her best offer Carmin will get.

                          "In a situation like the one in the OP the girl calling for the supervisor was doing her job, she saw a claim coming.

                          Because of your weekly experience working in casinos, I asked if it was common for casino employees to be seated next to slot players. Casino procedures vary, but it's usually a slot tech and not superiors who check malfunctions, payoff winners, and service the machines. As a craps dealer were you taught to scream "supervisor" when a slot machine malfunctioned or when a jackpot was won?

                          "Enjoy the alternative reality uopi live in where if you didn't experience something other people talk about they must have gotten it from books or tv."

                          I gave you the benefit of doubt because I thought it was common knowledge hundreds of books were written with several TV shows, and some movies. Amazon has over 1600 casino gambling books. I never said you didn't experience anything, just pointed out your experiences might not be unique as you think and there are thousands of similar stories.

                          "It was all first hand experience except for the Gaming Board repoert on attempted cheaters."

                          I agree most of your stories are interesting and probably more interesting to the people who never heard them before. I said "That "kinda stuff" came out of someone else's book and lots of it was reenacted on TV shows." because I know from experience lots of similar stuff was in books and reenacted on TV shows. I found 75 casino gambling and horse racing books at a garage sale bought them all for $10. Three of the books on Craps told different versions of false teeth landing on the pass line story. 

                          If you think you're stuff is interesting enough to make money writing a book, go for it. Just consider researching whether it was done before.

                          "I found 75 casino gambling and horse racing books at a garage sale bought them all for $10."

                          And now you go to casinos to play penny slots.

                          Man, those books are really paying off for you, huh Stanky?

                          You're a regular high-roller!

                          We're all so proud of you! 

                          Let us know if you find anymore exciting treasures at your Kintucky garage sales!  LOL

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                            Posted: February 20, 2014, 12:15 am - IP Logged

                            Well rdgrnr, Stack will be caught in a quandry between having to have the last word and knowing that between him and me whoever talks next loses.

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                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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                              Posted: February 20, 2014, 12:30 am - IP Logged

                              Well rdgrnr, Stack will be caught in a quandry between having to have the last word and knowing that between him and me whoever talks next loses.

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                              LOL, I don't think he'll be back, CT.

                              He's probably busy with his garage sales.

                              I bet he gets some really nice clothes there too.  LOL