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NC lottery winner spent $9M bailing out convict fiancé

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Posted: August 17, 2015, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

It's funny that the person posted she won all this money and still lives in a trailer. It's funny because it's untrue and they showed her house on television and if you do simple research you will see she paid barely $400,000 for the house. It's a brand new, but very humble, average looking house. She did not splurge on fancy mansions like most of us would.

I agree that this was a dumb move to bail someone out $9M, but if it were one of your loved ones and you had the money I'm sure some of you would too.  I know people who put up their homes and retirement money to bail out their spouse, children, parents and friends all the time. It's her money and she can do what she pleases, plus she'll get most of the money back when he goes back to court. 

Boyfriend is pretty dumb to still be dealing drugs when they have more than enough money to never have to ' hustle'  again. Hopefully this is a wake up call for her and she dumps him and get her life together before the government takes all her money.

I wish her the best and hope that she ask GOD for guidance with her new windfall. I'm not going to judge her situation, but I know after the first bail, they'd be on their own for getting out next time regardless of the cost.

From what I read, the second bust, the one where Ms. Holmes was charged w/ possession of pot, was on Boverie Street Shallott, N.C.  Google Street view didn't have any views of the homes on that street because - IMHO- it was in a gated community.

 photo Boverie Street shallotte north carolina_zpsptbn4ct5.jpg

Now, I'm not a realtor by any means, but again, IMHO, those homes looked like (from an aerial view) to be closer in price to a million (or more) than a half-million.

And yes, I would probably bail a loved one out of jail for a lot of offenses, but being in possession of thousands of baggies of heroin isn't one of them.

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    I don't know, I haven't found anything about that. From what I've read, it certain seems as though the first bond could have been forfeited.

    I have a hunch it wasn't, because if it were, would that same bond agency -or another - bail him out of jail the second time on the chance of losing 6 million bucks?  I doubt it.  (then again, with the chance to make 1.2 million plus he's being made to wear a GPS tracker, they might think it's worth risking)  I've read a lot of comments by people claiming to know the original bond was forfeited, but they're just like posts in here, nothing but conjecture (including my own)...and I'm beginning to doubt the veracity of what I've read from news outlets (like this very article from the NY Daily News) which are insinuating Ms. Holmes "spent $9M bailing out convict fiancé" when local news say a bondsman was used.

    If the bond was automatically forfeited when somebody violates the terms of their bail why would bounty hunters exist? Sure, if somebody cost you thousands or even millions of dollars you might want a chance to have a discussion with them, but why would you waste your time and money finding them and then spend even more to bring them back to the police? If somebody skips bail you have the possibility of finding them and turning them over to the police. If your client gets caught smoking a joint, turning tricks again, or whatever, you can't unring that bell. What kind of sane business person would risk losing thousands of dollars, let alone millions, on that bet?

    Then there's the fact that this guy was released on bail again. In theory any violation can result in being remanded until trial, but in this case (and it's apparently SOP in NC) they turned him loose once he posted twice as much as he did the first time around.

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      Not sure why you're taking me to task b/c I never said "automatically".   There's a procedure to bail forfeiture and it doesn't always "automatically" happen even after a bond is revoked...which is what happened when he was busted for pot and possession of a handgun, hence the second bond. (and N.C. allows a doubling of the bond in cases like this) The second bond wasn't for the offenses while out on the original bond, but because of what he did while out on bond.

      Bounty hunters go after people who skipped out on their bond, i.e. failed to show up at court as they promised to do and guaranteed when they or the bail bondsman posted the bond.  It varies from state-to-state (and probably from judge-to-judge), but courts usually allow a time limit for the accused to be located after missing their scheduled court appearance.   The courts are usually fairly lenient on that b/c they have neither the time nor resources to track down bail jumpers.  From what I've read, the bond can still be subject to forfeit even if the accused is brought back.

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        I agree with every single words you said Candy Lane.  There's a reason this woman won so much money because trust me everything happens for a reason. She's really dumb thinking this guy is the love of her life. This is blind love which is not true love. For those who said why is her boyfriend getting in trouble when she got all that money, it's her money but don't worried, bet if they married and she have no pre-nupt he'll turn right around and dump her for another chick and sued her for half the millions whatever is left. She got blasted on FB, but just wait till the next chapter come in her life, her man will be in jail again, and they will give him a bigger bail.  If it keep up whether she married him or not, she'll be on welfare again. I cannot believed she actually said her man doesn't do drug or sell it and that's what he got busted for. If I was her,  I would hire a private investigator to follow him anonymously just to see where he go and what he do and with whom. She better take her money and get the heck out of dodge  and change her last name(kids too)  so he can't track her down ever.That man is BAD NEWS.

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          You can take the rat out of the hood...but you can't take the hood out of the rat.  No matter how much money this woman wins in her life...she will NEVER turn it around.  FACT

          1st bail costed her $3 Mil...now the 2nd costed her $6 Mil...either she is stupid with math or she is has been seriously misguided.

          When is she gonna learn ??  Oh...and by the way...you can tell she is a greedy SOB because not one good thing has been made out of what she has done for her own children.  FACT

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            I am sorry to say this but this story is not going to end up on the good side. This is going to go very bad for her and her family and in the end it will destroy many other people's lives. This was not a responsible winner and unfortunately it is her life lesson to be learned. This is another Jack Whittaker and Abraham Shakespeare story that will not have a good ending.

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              N. Carolina isn't one of those with anonymous claiming, but Ms. Holmes chose to give a news conference and television and newspaper interviews when she didn't have to do so.

              Anonymity isn't the panacea a lot of people think it is, since a lottery winner is more likely to be killed by a family member or friend than a total stranger.

              You are right Mike in Texas ,in my hometown of Sc lottery winner solomon jackson  that won $259.9 million dollars   in 2009 choose to go public and sc has the option of anonymity .He has been very active in the community and given millions of dollars to education . When i was visiting there i saw Mr .Solomon Jackson in Bank of America he smiled and spoke to me . He  has a rep in the bank that helps with his  philanthrophy .Mr.Solomon Jackson looked very thin and looked  as if he has been hagged alot.I heard that he has moved out of Sc because of being harassed by so many people .Another Sc person  that won $400 million in Lexington sc choose anonymity .People should consider this option to avoid  any negative situations  that comes with winning a huge of amount of money in a lottery.Marie Holmes did not have to go on television and expose herself so much to the media.I pray that her children are kept safe and she truly gets herself together .

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                i wanna know who that git behind her is  " woooo we're rich we're rich. " dont these places have security?

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                  From what I read, the second bust, the one where Ms. Holmes was charged w/ possession of pot, was on Boverie Street Shallott, N.C.  Google Street view didn't have any views of the homes on that street because - IMHO- it was in a gated community.

                   photo Boverie Street shallotte north carolina_zpsptbn4ct5.jpg

                  Now, I'm not a realtor by any means, but again, IMHO, those homes looked like (from an aerial view) to be closer in price to a million (or more) than a half-million.

                  And yes, I would probably bail a loved one out of jail for a lot of offenses, but being in possession of thousands of baggies of heroin isn't one of them.

                  No her house is very basic.  It's a blue house, they showed it on the news when they had the cops storming through her home and arresting her man on the porch. I looked it up on zillow, it's a brand new house that she purchased months after winning the lottery. If I remember right, it's about a little over 2000sq ft.  It's a nice home, but for a mega lottery winner, it's basic. Reminds me of a habitat house.

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                    You can take the rat out of the hood...but you can't take the hood out of the rat.  No matter how much money this woman wins in her life...she will NEVER turn it around.  FACT

                    1st bail costed her $3 Mil...now the 2nd costed her $6 Mil...either she is stupid with math or she is has been seriously misguided.

                    When is she gonna learn ??  Oh...and by the way...you can tell she is a greedy SOB because not one good thing has been made out of what she has done for her own children.  FACT

                    When did you survey Ms. Holmes and made it public record of these facts? How do you know what she has done for her children or not? It's a fact that you are presuming and making up assumptions.

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                      No her house is very basic.  It's a blue house, they showed it on the news when they had the cops storming through her home and arresting her man on the porch. I looked it up on zillow, it's a brand new house that she purchased months after winning the lottery. If I remember right, it's about a little over 2000sq ft.  It's a nice home, but for a mega lottery winner, it's basic. Reminds me of a habitat house.

                      How did you get the address?  I was just going by the address on the news report in the local newspaper. 

                      Link me to the Zillow listing or a photo of the house, please.  I'd like to see it.

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                        You are right Mike in Texas ,in my hometown of Sc lottery winner solomon jackson  that won $259.9 million dollars   in 2009 choose to go public and sc has the option of anonymity .He has been very active in the community and given millions of dollars to education . When i was visiting there i saw Mr .Solomon Jackson in Bank of America he smiled and spoke to me . He  has a rep in the bank that helps with his  philanthrophy .Mr.Solomon Jackson looked very thin and looked  as if he has been hagged alot.I heard that he has moved out of Sc because of being harassed by so many people .Another Sc person  that won $400 million in Lexington sc choose anonymity .People should consider this option to avoid  any negative situations  that comes with winning a huge of amount of money in a lottery.Marie Holmes did not have to go on television and expose herself so much to the media.I pray that her children are kept safe and she truly gets herself together .

                        Yes, and Ms. Holmes even went on natl. TV, the Good Morning America show, I believe.  I spent an hour or so last night reading interviews by folks in the UK who went public.  As you probably know, you can remain anonymous over there, but quite a few people chose to talk about their win.  Most said the news would get out anyway and one woman said "It would be living a lie."

                        We don't have anonymity here in Texas and I have no problem with that.  I really doubt that, if I win, I'll get harassed all that much...I'm sure there would be some begging letters, but they'll go right into the circular file cabinet and no one but my family will know my private phone number; any other calls will go to an answering machine or voice mailbox.  Woe unto anyone who tries to break into my house....if they ignore the warning signs and manage to get by the alarms, then they'll have a fang or two hung in 'em and if that doesn't deter them, then it will be two in the chest and one in the forehead.  Perfectly legal here to shoot a home intruder, God bless Texas.   I'd probably file suit against the intruder's family for the price of the bullets and to recoup the cost of cleaning the carpet.

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                          Yes, and Ms. Holmes even went on natl. TV, the Good Morning America show, I believe.  I spent an hour or so last night reading interviews by folks in the UK who went public.  As you probably know, you can remain anonymous over there, but quite a few people chose to talk about their win.  Most said the news would get out anyway and one woman said "It would be living a lie."

                          We don't have anonymity here in Texas and I have no problem with that.  I really doubt that, if I win, I'll get harassed all that much...I'm sure there would be some begging letters, but they'll go right into the circular file cabinet and no one but my family will know my private phone number; any other calls will go to an answering machine or voice mailbox.  Woe unto anyone who tries to break into my house....if they ignore the warning signs and manage to get by the alarms, then they'll have a fang or two hung in 'em and if that doesn't deter them, then it will be two in the chest and one in the forehead.  Perfectly legal here to shoot a home intruder, God bless Texas.   I'd probably file suit against the intruder's family for the price of the bullets and to recoup the cost of cleaning the carpet.

                          lol. texas is a beautiful place .I have relatives in New Braunfels .They live in the suburbs and have trouble ith the deer eating up there plants in the yard all the time.im not sure why lottery winners  would expose them self on television if anonymity is an option.It sounds like you will be ready for any intruder .I like my privacy and Im not so sure about giving my number to family because they may give it out .Just maybe my cell number .

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                            Yes, and Ms. Holmes even went on natl. TV, the Good Morning America show, I believe.  I spent an hour or so last night reading interviews by folks in the UK who went public.  As you probably know, you can remain anonymous over there, but quite a few people chose to talk about their win.  Most said the news would get out anyway and one woman said "It would be living a lie."

                            We don't have anonymity here in Texas and I have no problem with that.  I really doubt that, if I win, I'll get harassed all that much...I'm sure there would be some begging letters, but they'll go right into the circular file cabinet and no one but my family will know my private phone number; any other calls will go to an answering machine or voice mailbox.  Woe unto anyone who tries to break into my house....if they ignore the warning signs and manage to get by the alarms, then they'll have a fang or two hung in 'em and if that doesn't deter them, then it will be two in the chest and one in the forehead.  Perfectly legal here to shoot a home intruder, God bless Texas.   I'd probably file suit against the intruder's family for the price of the bullets and to recoup the cost of cleaning the carpet.

                            Mike, while we don't have the anonymity factor going for us, we sure have minimum publicity as a repeating standard. I clicked on our lottery website under Media releases. I went down through most of the news stories for all the newly created millionaires including the TL Management Trust that won 1/3rd of the same drawing as M. Holmes did and guess what ?
                            Its the same theme throughout,"The claimant requested minimum publicity"
                            Something others may want to consider....I know I sure will.
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                              Oh, I will too, CT.  I'm certainly not going to hold a press conference or do any TV interviews.    I do think the amt. of hassle a lottery winner gets is in direct proportion to the amt. of money won.   I've said this before and will say it again;  some people are worrying about the thieves in ski masks holding a gun and yelling "Gimme all yer money!" but if I ever win, I am going to worry more about the thieves in suits and ties holding a contract and pen and softly saying "Here...sign this.  Trust me."  The other troubles can easily be dealt with.