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N.C. Powerball winner target of $10M lawsuit by local pastor

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Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

Any attorneys in the LP Community ???

True or Not True ??? ...

In some states, you can't submit a recording as evidence of a verbal contract, if the person being recorded did not know he/she was being recorded.

I'm not a lawyer/attorney but I was a paralegal  years ago and in my State it is against the law to record someone without their knowledge but only if it's via phone where you must get consent first. It's perfectly legal to record a person under Ohio's revised code 2933.51 like on a public street or public place without consent where no privacy is expected.

Maria and the pastor's situation took place at the church which was a personal and private meeting and can fall under the wiretapping law - he could be facing criminal and civil charges should Marie and her lawyer choose to go that route.

I don't know the laws in N.C. but if it's anything comparable to Ohio then I think he will withdraw his lawsuit if this was recorded without her consent. The $10 million will be the least of his problems and he will find himself having to defend lawsuits from Marie.

 

She has the money to get a very competent lawyer and I would never try going up against someone that has that kind of money that would be able to counter sue me for everything I have. He would be a fool to continue on with the lawsuit.

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    Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:14 pm - IP Logged

    LO L@ At her pastor kneeling and praying at her property. Wasn't the image I was expecting. Someone please give him a drink, he's very thirsty!

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      Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

      She has the money to hire the best attorneys in the world out there and it is time she sits down and does this. First sue this con man into the Stone Age and then sue the county she is in for gouging her on bail for her no good boyfriend while simultaneously kicking him out of her life too. 

      Can an oral agreement be binding, sure but I imagine it is about 50 million times harder to enforce than a written and signed contract which is why written and signed contracts exist. In addition as others have stated it is highly unlikely that she knew she was being recorded so that would probably get tossed out in a court case anyway and finally I imagine her attorney would argue that she is unsophisticated with regards to finance and was unaware of what this guy was doing. This "pastor" should truly be arrested for fraud. 

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        Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:44 pm - IP Logged

        If what Marie Holmes said is true about her money being tied up in bonds, then she really is loosing her butt. Bonds, along with everything else, have lost tremendously in the past quarter.

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          Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

          What a leech, going after 10M now after the supposed agreement was for 1.5M.

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            I agree.  He is a hustler, liar and thief.  And I have a LOT of questions for this guy:

            What is the name of the church were he is a supposed 'pastor'? 

            Where is his congregation?? 

            Who the hell needs a 3 hour conversation to hear "the foundation will be set up by the end of the year and they will review your request at that time"??  Sounds like he was trying to wear her accountant out and just jaw-jackin' to hear himself speak. 

            Why is he dealing directly with Marie Holmes, who is not a member of his church? 

            This is a con job, plain and simple.   If I was Pastor Kevin Matthews, I would be very careful.  "Hot Sauce" probably knows a lot of thugs (in and out of jail) who could make shark poop out of this guy if he doesn't back off.  The ocean is a BIG place and he would never be heard from again.

            Lol, this is one of the first things came to my mind when I heard about it. She probably ain't that lottery winner you want to be hustling. Preacher man be found floating face down by some old dude fishing...

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              Posted: February 15, 2016, 7:50 pm - IP Logged

              I'm not a lawyer/attorney but I was a paralegal  years ago and in my State it is against the law to record someone without their knowledge but only if it's via phone where you must get consent first. It's perfectly legal to record a person under Ohio's revised code 2933.51 like on a public street or public place without consent where no privacy is expected.

              Maria and the pastor's situation took place at the church which was a personal and private meeting and can fall under the wiretapping law - he could be facing criminal and civil charges should Marie and her lawyer choose to go that route.

              I don't know the laws in N.C. but if it's anything comparable to Ohio then I think he will withdraw his lawsuit if this was recorded without her consent. The $10 million will be the least of his problems and he will find himself having to defend lawsuits from Marie.

               

              She has the money to get a very competent lawyer and I would never try going up against someone that has that kind of money that would be able to counter sue me for everything I have. He would be a fool to continue on with the lawsuit.

              I'm not a lawyer either but I've seen many contract cases argued in our Supreme Court on PBS and they've said for there to be contract between parties all must receive some benefits.  Simply saying I have the rights to spend someone else money isn't a contract except between marriaged people maybe.  It would be like a preacher suing his church members for tithing less than 10% of their income.

              This SOB preacher should not only lose his suit but go to jail for even filing such a suit which is an abuse of religious freedom.

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                Posted: February 15, 2016, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

                Hello!  Holmes, This is your money and you didn't have to share a dam penny .And it is bad luck to give your money away.That was 

                Greed.Besides Ms. Holmes gave the Church $700 ,000.00:    Boy Oh. Boy.  What a mess. From a  so call man of God. Preacher

                Man you mess up Let it go .You will look like a  greedy fool.

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                  God knows that this pastor{small p} is a con artist. Now Ms Holmes needs to put some of that money into investigating and exposing this dumbass masquerading as a man of God. I have a funny feeling that NC thinks that this girl{woman} is some kind of ATM. More reason why you should keep your mouth shut when you win the lottery. Anonymity Rocks.

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                    Posted: February 15, 2016, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

                    So.... they stop her from giving money to a pastor but not from bailing out hot sauce. 

                    I don't think she owes the pastor anything...i do believe he sought her out because she is a lottery winner.

                    I just find the choices made here very interesting.

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                      Posted: February 15, 2016, 8:51 pm - IP Logged

                      Verbal contracts generally aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

                      This is one of those preachers who want you to give your soul to Jesus, but make the check out to them.


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                        Interesting a lot of you saying Verbal contracts generally aren't worth anything, has to be signed on paper and notarized, yada yada yada, but did we forget the recent story of a retired teacher and her boyfriend with the oral agreement and she had to pay money based on he said she said?

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                          Marie Holmes, North Carolina's $188 million Powerball lottery winner, is back in the news again.

                          This time Holmes is not spending millions of dollars on bailing her boyfriend, Lamarr "Hot Sauce" McDow, out-of-jail for the fourth time, but a pastor is allegedly suing her for $10 million for reneging on a verbal contract.

                          The 27-year-old mother of two took home a $127 million lump sum payment following her lottery win in February, 2015. (See N.C. Powerball lottery winner claims share of jackpot worth $188 million, Lottery Post, Feb. 24, 2015.)

                          Pastor Kevin Matthews says he is experiencing emotional and mental distress due to her backing down from a verbal contract they had regarding $1.5 million to purchase land to build a retreat facility.

                          "Because of the emotional distress and mental stress, they put me through, I had to start taking more medicine for anxiety and depression due to this situation," says Pastor Kevin Matthews.

                          Holmes' attorney, Ruth Sheehan, of The Francis Law Firm, said she was not aware of the situation or the lawsuit.

                          In a recent interview, Pastor Matthews said, "God led him to her house and he prayed with her."

                          He later met Holmes and ministered to her on several occasions at her new home. He also said he ministered to three other people at her home, and then he eventually asked her to consider giving him money to purchase land to build a retreat. He gave her three different amounts that he needed ($1 million, $1.5 million and $2 million). After several meetings, she agreed to give him $1.5 million to help purchase land to build a retreat center that he says he had been praying about for years.

                          Matthews spoke to several Realtors about the land and told them about the blessing he was receiving from Holmes, and he made a verbal contract to purchase the land. He says he even promised $200,000 out to other people and their ministries over a two-year period.

                          Matthews says that eventually Holmes told him that her accountant, Dexter Perry, would be in touch and she did not know how long it would take because the money was in bonds. Matthews says Perry, called him and they talked for three hours about the matter and the conversation ended with the money would be available by the end of the year. A three-hour recording made by Matthews appears to confirm Matthews' story regarding Holmes supposedly giving money to him to purchase land for a retreat. Perry can be heard on the recording stating that Holmes' Foundation is being set up and that Holmes really wanted to help people out and that they will have her foundation, and everything set up soon and they will do it the right way.

                          On the last few minutes of the recording, Perry can be heard stating, "Well, I appreciate you allowing me to call and spend this amount of time with you this morning. I'm going to go ahead and email you as soon as we hang up. Just reply to that. I'm going to ask for a few things — if you just get that to me at your leisure." He goes on to say, "Like I said before, there's no need really to ask Marie anymore. She already said she wants to do something and now it's up to us to fulfill our strategy, and I definitely understand the urgency in terms of your land purchase and people calling you." The conversation ends with Matthews saying he wants to do what God wants him to do and help as many people as possible.

                          The accountant involved as well as Holmes attorney, Ruth Sheehan, were not available for comment.

                          "I didn't see this coming and I think it was a third party that came along and told her not to do this," says Matthews. Holmes started a foundation and appointed her aunt as the executive director, according to Matthews. At some point, Matthews says he believes her aunt, Carmel Wheaton, got involved and stopped her from sending him the money. He says, Wheaton called him and said, "We have decided not to give you money." He said he explained to Wheaton that Ms. Holmes said she was giving it and the accountant assured him as well. He said her argument was, "Did she promise it to you?" Matthews said, "I got caught up with trying to be truthful and said she didn't use the word 'promise.'" Matthews then quoted Wheaton as saying, "She was appalled that a pastor would even ask for money."

                          Matthews contacted Holmes and she would not return any calls. Holmes' boyfriend, Lamarr McDow, did call Matthews and said, "There was nothing ever written down so the best thing you can do is mind your business and Marie will mind her business." Matthews said he had prayed with McDow on several occasions and tried to help him clean up his life.

                          Asked if he had talked to Holmes lately and Matthews says he ran into her recently and she wouldn't speak to him. Interestingly, when asked for his attorney's name and contact information, Matthews would not release the information. He says he is waiting on the paperwork (lawsuit) from his attorney.

                          "The bottom line ... I just want her (Marie Holmes) to do what she said she was going to do. I want peace and to do what God told me to do. I want her to do what she said she was going to do," says Matthews. "I really feel like a warrior for Christ and people need to be accountable."

                          Marie Holmes donated $700,000 to her church, Pleasant Hill Missionary Baptist Church last December.

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                          In a recent interview, Pastor Matthews said, "God led him to her house and he prayed with her."

                          I wonder who all the other con artists say leads them to the homes of large jackpot prize winners?

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                            You would right except that she promised it and he went and put up money on her word to buy the land. AND the minister has a 3 hour recording to the facts that verify everything he says. So for once I actually believe this minister only because he has a 3 hr recording. And that will be held up in court and she will owe it a verbal contract is as good as a written contract especially with the recording she has no recourse. She bails out a drug dealer time and time again but to do some good she decides to go back on her word

                            These types of comments really p!$$ me off.

                            She already gave her church $700,000 and you're actually going to judge her for not wanting to have any dealings with this Pharisee? You think because he passed a theology course he's entitled to someone else's money?   

                            She started her own foundation to help people so obviously she wants to do good. 

                            He's on record as saying she never promised him any money. A person should be able to say, "hey, that retreat sounds like a great idea. I'd love to get involved. Let me have my accountant go over the particulars with you" and if after scrutinizing all the details realize they don't actually want to hand over millions of dollars to a greedy, unhinged, entitled, self-righteous, devious charlatan, how exactly is that a bad thing? 

                            People like you have a lot to say about how lottery winners throw away their money on nonsense, but then still complain when they don't.

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                              I'm not a lawyer either but I've seen many contract cases argued in our Supreme Court on PBS and they've said for there to be contract between parties all must receive some benefits.  Simply saying I have the rights to spend someone else money isn't a contract except between marriaged people maybe.  It would be like a preacher suing his church members for tithing less than 10% of their income.

                              This SOB preacher should not only lose his suit but go to jail for even filing such a suit which is an abuse of religious freedom.

                              LO L I agree! That's why I don't think this is going to go too far. I can't wait to see Marie's attorney scare the robe off this  fraudulent pastor.