By Todd Northrop
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The Florida Lottery is launching a new draw game called Jackpot Triple Play with Combo next week.
The new game, which goes on sale Jan. 30, will replace Lucky Money, which ends Jan. 29.
Jackpot Triple Play is unique in that for $1 players get a triple chance to win the jackpot, as each ticket has three sets of numbers to match with the winning numbers drawn. In other states similar games are typically offered for $2 per play.
The game's jackpot rolls over and down to make bigger prizes, according to a press release from the lottery.
Jackpots start at $500,000 and can roll over to reach $2 million before rolling down to increase the lower-prize levels in each drawing until the jackpot is won. Players win by matching three or more numbers from the same set to the winning numbers drawn. Players can get an extra chance to win by combining all matches on the ticket by adding Combo for $1 more.
The new game's tickets go on sale Jan. 30. Drawings will be held Tuesday and Friday nights at 11:15 p.m., eastern time, with the first drawing being held on Feb. 1. The outgoing Lucky Money game currently has the same draw days and time.
Lucky Money ticket sales end at 10:40 p.m. EST January 29, with the final drawing held that evening at 11:15 p.m. If there is no jackpot winner in the final Lucky Money drawing, the jackpot will roll and carry over to the Jackpot Triple Play jackpot for the first drawing.
Now if this Jackpot Triple play is not RNG then it seems like somebody did their homework. RNG=Forget it!!
The Florida Lottery keeps their 100% true drawing status with this draw game. I found this under Results, State Lottery Report Card.
Wishing all involved Good Luck and have fun!
We've been reading the fine print, http://199.250.30.201/site/jackpotTriplePlay-howToPlay.
As far as RNG or Computer Generated Numbers goes:
You get to pick 1 line and the government quick picks the other 2 lines in that 3 line (triple play) scheme,
Or, go all out and let the government quick pick all 3 lines.
Why can't they bring All or Nothing or even Keno to Florida? This games sounds like Georgia Jumbo Bucks Lottery when hardly anybody wins the jackpot prize. It keeps rolling over.
I have no problem with RNG picking some numbers for me (same as a Quick Pick ticket). I do have a big problem with RNG picking the drawing's winning numbers...
We've tried government selected quick picks before; sometimes just to see what not to play.
However, we get our best reactions from the store clerks when we cash in our self picked numbers.
Kid-you-not, she says, "Wow! we don't get many wins that big on these games."
If you look at the Florida Lottery website's "Top Prize Winners & Retailer Information" for Lotto and Fantasy 5, it seems more than half of the winning tickets are listed as Quick Picks so RNG Quick Picks win often in Florida.
There were some sites like Powerball and my home state of WI that said 70 to 80% of plays were government quick picks.
Must be something different going on there in FL.
I wish California would offer a roll-down game.
It’s a dollar for now, just you wait till they start getting multiple winners, then it will jump to $2. If they get pushback from the players, they can always say “ well, these games go for $2 in other States, come on guys, let’s play fair.” They have a backup plan for irate players, and that’s it. You win by losing they say.
I know quick picks or computer picks are all RNG. Government does not pick the numbers, the computer does all the time.
What I mean is the #'s for the lottery, are they ball or RNG drawings. That's a sticking point with me.
government owned hardware and software; thus, government generated numbers.
even if it's third party, government approved and sanctioned administrated process; ergo, government generated numbers.
if it's not government run, ask them to see the computer terminal's electronic schematics, machine code and/or source code, see what happens.
likely the responses will include words like: security, proprietary, copyright, intellectual property.
all intended to cover the real phrase, government owned and run; hence, government generated numbers.
they also make more money due to jackpot maximum is 2 million.
As the German would say 'Verstehen Sie Englisch?'
IDC who owns/operates the lottery, that is not, nor ever was my point.
All I want to know is when you play are the numbers generated RNG or by random balls getting drawn?
I'm through!
Why is everyone so excited? This game is three times harder to win than Lucky Money was (more on the FL Lottery's distorted oddsmaking logic in a minute). First you have to understand why they couldn't end the Lucky Money game fast enough- they were losing money on more than half of the jackpots over the last two years. A quick look at the official game rules to find out the takeout percentages made it easy for me to figure out - because the jackpot started at $500,000- that a $1,000,000 dollar jackpot was their break-even point. They were losing money on any jackpot lower than $1,000,000. In fact, the only time they made good money was when the game reached the $2,000,000 rolldown point. In years 2017 and 2018, there were a total of 45 Lucky Money Jackpots won: only sixteen were profitable (>$1,000,000), two were at the break-even point, and twenty-seven were money losers. Your beloved lottery is not going to offer a game where they lose money 60% of the time. While I didn't check the year for 2017, last year produced only ten rolldowns. Apparently that wasn't good enough to prop things up.
Now to the odds of winning the jackpot. The first thing I did was figure the odds of picking 6 out of a set of 46 numbers, which is precisely 1/9,366,819. But the spin doctors at the Lottery know that people aren't going to play a game that offers the same top prize as its predecessor if it is three times harder to win. So-o-o-oo, they take the true odds and divide it by the three plays on the ticket to arrive at odds of 1/3,122,273- roughly the same odds as Lucky Money. Yes, I was born at night...but not last night. When that ticket prints, I know that I'm holding three chances with odds of 1/9,366,819. That lottery logic might work on high school dropouts or non-speakers of the English language, but it doesn't work on an experienced gambler. I called the FL Lottery out on this same subject a few years back, when they advertised odds of 1/100,000 of winning a $1,000,000 top prize in their annual Holiday Raffle (10 top prizes, 1,000,000 tickets sold). The logic was so simple: Pretend this is a real raffle, with 1,000,000 tickets in a giant hopper. After drawing the first nine winners, my ticket hasn't been chosen. What are my odds of winning now? 1/999,991- the number of tickets left in the hopper. A far cry from 1/100,000. And I'll have you know that they did not advertise the misleading odds the following year, replacing them instead with the phrase "Best Odds to Win A Million Dollars".
Finally, had I not read the other comments I wouldn't have known that 2 of the 3 plays are quick picks. I was interested in spending the extra dollar for the Combo, but not anymore. To have a chance to win the top Combo prize, you have to have at least 2 numbers in common on all three lines, and I have never seen that on quick picks- not that I buy that many, I despise them. My gut tells me that the RNG will be programmed to produce a set number of losers ala EZ Match. I'll be buying 2 tickets a draw- one with and one without the combo- for the first month, just to see how the quick picks come out on the Combo bet. Beyond that, I don't see myself playing this game. With the true odds, I can't justify spending money for a top prize of $2,000,000. Were it $3,000,000...maybe. I give this game a two-year lifespan. I think it will be the biggest flop the lottery has ever offered.
Point noted.
Hope and pray you don't ever get Computer Picked Numbers.
KY had a similar $2 game called 3 Line Lotto and I believe the first line of numbers could be picked, but the other two were picked by the terminal. And the drawings were RNG. The game was replaced by 5 Card Cash that is both QPs only and RNG drawn.
Most lotteries close drawn games because of low ticket sales regardless of perceived player popularity.
The odds and chances of winning depends on how individual players express the percentages. A 1 in 10 chance sounds much better than 1000 ways to win and 9000 ways to lose. And apparently lots of people here despite 300 million possible outcomes believe they have an excellent chance of winning PB and/or MM.
"Best Odds to Win A Million Dollars"
You can get 1000 to 1 odds to win $1 million playing pick-3, but you have to wager $2000. Knew a guy that bet a $100 straight and $100 box on a pick-4 number and cashed for $20,000 too.
IMO odds are irrelevant when jackpot games advertise how much players can win before taxes after 30 yearly installments.
play4shekels,
People got excited over All or Nothing too.
The lotteries are very well aware that any game will have takers when it's originally offered.
There was once a poll here on LP about how big of a matrix would a jackpot game have to have before you stopped playing, at least one person said they'd never stop.
Faithful Lucky Money player here. I play the same numbers for every draw via consecutive draws. I'll be playing these last two draws I might add. Haven't won much but I'm a little disappointed to see the game go. Probably has to do with slow sales. I have mixed feelings on this new game. I've landed on I'll buy a QP for the first eight consecutive draws to see how it plays out.
I will analyze this game when I have time, to see if there is a player advantage. The Massachusetts Lottery had a roll-down feature that resulted in a player advantage. Interesting.
l walked into a convenient store this pm JL, and asked for two “ government quick picks” for PB and the 2 people that were in the store, turned around and looked at me as though l had brought a serpent into the store. The clerk asked me “what are those?” I turned around and said, forget it, just give me 2 QP’s then. I didn’t want to get into any kind of explanation, suffice to say, they unheard of in this neck of the woods.
I thought the "government quick picks" was some sort of a connect the dots conspiracy theory. Before MM and PB, I bought very few QPs because to me it was the same as matching two drawings. And think about it, players complain about RNG drawing after buying RNG tickets.
Thank you! I thought I was the only person who could do the math and see that the actual odds are more like 1 in 9M. This game is designed on a gimmick and I am not impressed. The only time it may become worth playing is when it hits the rolldown and the second tier prizes double in value.
Well Stack, JL #7 was putting up a spirited defense with Bluedog over" Government quick picks" ... even though l felt it was total
- l wanted to test that theory out here and see the reaction.
yep, likely no one has heard it called government quick picks.
it's interesting to be at the beginning of a new perception.
an idea that once heard or read, can't be unheard or unread.
all we needed to do is plant the seed and watch it grow.
it's spreading at this very moment while we read.
a different way of seeing what was always there.
people in vast hoards just willing to give up the right to choose their own numbers.
Todd please rescue me. All I wanted to know were the #'s drawn for this lottery generated by computer or by balls. Not this government nonsense. Sorry LP members for this being so misconstrued. I could care less if the man on the moon gets the numbers, it is how the numbers are drawn...RNG or balls?
I agree that the numbers drawn by the lottery as part of its nightly drawing is a completely different thing than the method that quick picks are generated on a lottery ticket. They are two separate issues that should not be conflated.
However, I will also say that in the case of these specific types of games, where you can pick your own numbers for one line but the other two lines are always computer-generated, it is a valid concern that there is no way to select the other two lines yourself. That's because the random number generators used by lottery terminals are often extremely poor, often resulting in patterns of numbers generated, rather than a very good random selection. So that is the Achilles heel of these games.
However, that does not mean the drawings are at all compromised or rigged, especially if the drawings themselves are ball drawings. It just means that your selection of numbers cannot be completely controlled. So if someone asked me to give a star rating to this game I might knock off a star or half a star for not being to select all of your lines yourself, but I feel the game itself is secure as long as it employs a ball drawing. Which it is my understand this game will.
I agree.
The game itself is a hybrid of the self picked and quick pick only games we've seen before.
These quick pick only games in my home state of WI usually don't sell well and have had a short run.
The current quick pick only game on sale in WI is 5 Card Cash.
It seems to us, the industry would like to turn players on to the idea of quick pick only betting, but have failed to get that scheme going.
This is one of the latest attempts to do so.
In our opinion, of course.