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Lottery Prediction by Recurrence Analysis

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Posted: September 8, 2005, 10:34 am - IP Logged

I have never used it yet, but it sounds to me as if it might be better than Guru's LottoSync program and it is very much better for sure than the Attrasoft Predictor.

If Eugenes's chart could be translated into the actual numbers then it would be super great.

    NemeSys's avatar - Nemesis
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    That screen capture Eugene posted was merely to demonstrate a point about the correlation between the training data (the actual results) and a given predictive model. To make actual predictions the red line should extend beyond the blue one.

    Further site additions: comparison of VRA graphs of UK Lotto, Thunderball, and EuroMillions results:

    http://zarnia.250free.com/visual.htm

    "God is subtle but He is not malicious." - Albert Einstein

    "In my experience there's no such thing as luck." - Alec Guinness, Star Wars Episode IV

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      I agree with lantern can it actually show a list of playable numbers at the bottom.Also can you enter as many past pick 4 draws as wanted? Does it work with a pick 3 daily as well? thanks

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        A list of numbers at the bottom could be a step forward, b/c sometimes its pretty vage when you try to determine the exact x-y.
        I"ve been testing it quite "to the bottom", until my fingers hurt, due to the fact that i ran prediction, typed in the numbers in Access and then on the drawday compared the results (which i automated ofcourse). I've tested it for 5 consecutive draws, each time producing 14 numbers. (in most case VRA produced the same number several times in one prediction --> which was good, b/c this was a number i would leave out b/c in over 85 % of the test these repeating nbrs where no good.)

        The overall result of the test was that each time i checked with a real draw, after creating about 300 predictions (ouch, my fingers and eyes!!!), i had all six of the nbrs at least a dozen times. Trouble is that it not once repeated whit the same dimension and delay.
        Also, when setting the nearest (# of) neighbors was set to at least 2 it seems that VRA gave better results, 'tho i had to look really close to determine what real number was the closest.

        Finally i gave up on testing b/c it was way too time consuming.
        If somehow the manual setting of dimension and timedelay could be replaced by an automated system, which would save the produced data after each time the settings of dim & del changed (automatically), that would just be the max.

        But then i again, i noticed there's a free version and a non-free version...

        Anyway, Eugene, it's a nice piece of work.
        I truly have a hard time understanding how you could get it to be so fast in its calculations. (you used Delphi?)

        G's
        Ricky

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          Posted: September 8, 2005, 3:39 pm - IP Logged

          Hi Retxx,

          i've tested it for just about any game you can find.
          Pick 3 did not score pretty good here.
          The best results i got was when i sorted the combo's from low to high and exported them from my database to 3 textfiles, so each textfile would have one column.
          For column 1 and 3 i had some pretty good results, but for column 2, which fluctuated the most, the results were not that magnificent. But then again, not every pick3 game is the same. (And i can not address this enough, sometimes 2 or more games get in the same "zone", so to speak. I ran several tests to crosscheck data from Belgian pick3 to the Georgia Pick 3 and for some months the results were really amazing. Then it faded away and several months later the hits (all straight) came again, at least 4 or 5 a month sometimes...)

          Once i develope a little program that will do the crosschecking entirely automated, i will, as freeware, make it available to anyone who wants it.

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            I've tried this program for the 1st time with my Ontario Keno 20 / 70 and it coulda hit for $25,000 CND or so yesterday Eek

             

            the best setting was Nearest Neighbour / Euclidean / Dim = 17 / Delay = 4 / Neighbourhood = % of mean size 500 [every thing else at default settings]

             

            at the current time i have 3419 draws in the 20 excell files 1 for each ball.

            so i set train from =1 / train to 3419

            Predict from 3420 / predict to 3420

            and this gives me 1 exact number on the left hand side for each execl ball file

            I'm gunna try it tonight if i get time because have to do just 1 ball column at a time.

             

            Goodluck

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              Posted: September 8, 2005, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

              Hi Everyone,

               

              Has anyone come up with a workable Dim and Delay for 6/49? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

              FrankieHSmile 

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                Posted: September 8, 2005, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                vick could you post the keno numbers that vra came up with. I would like to see how they fare here in Mass. where keno runs every 4 minutes.

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                  didn't do good tonight but yesterday's was a firecracker.:

                   

                     Sept 8                  
                    keno                   
                    vra                     
                  result nearest neighbour                 
                   5 / 20 17-4 - % of mean size max = 50037101317202427303437414448505457616467
                   6 / 20 18-4 - % of mean size max = 50037101317202427313437414447505357616467
                                        
                   6 / 19 18-4 - #of neighbours17212722252831323326292849474463526866
                                        
                   6 / 20 12-5 - % of mean size max = 50037101417222427303438414448515558616467
                   7 / 20 8-8 - % of mean size max = 50037101316202327303537404447505558616467



                   

                  results here:

                  http://lottery.sympatico.msn.ca/cgi-bin/english?job=show_results&lottery=on_daily_keno

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                    It seems to me that the software needs to be optimized for lottery predictions and then maybe it would be the new "Holy Grail" of prediction software.

                    You (we) should all send suggestions to this effect to Eugene, it seems to me that he is beginning to get interested in using his software on the lottery.

                    Good luck.

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                      Paurths: it looks like you've come across the periodicity in predictions that the phase space plot indicated (the chess board pattern, alternating periods of hits and misses). I'm looking forward to seeing the program you're writing.

                      FrankieH: for 6/49 I'd suggest starting with delay of 6, and a range of dimension values, say 10 to 20, then working out from there. Something I've noticed is that good dimension values tend to be small multiples of delay, such as 2, 3, 4 times the delay.

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                        Nemesys,

                        Do you have a suggestion for the settings of "Neighbors" and "Fixed Size"? My settings are set for Neighbors (1) and Fixed Size (25).

                        Thank you.

                        FrankieH

                         

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                          If the predictor you're using (under Model Options) is Nearest Neighbour then the number of neighbours defaults to one (the nearest possible neighbour), and no other value is permitted. Switching from neighbours to fixed size gives poor results, so I don't use the fixed size option.

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                            nemesys can you help, ive got several  excel worksheets that ive been using with vra, and for some unknown reason it has stopped working, the vra programme starts up ok, but when i go to open a signal (ie one of my sheets) it closes down the vra programme, its only just started doing this, is there something wrong somewhere, and before anyone shouts virus, ive excluded that already, any thoughts

                             

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                              Thanks again Nemesys. You've been very helpful. Smile

                                 
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